1 When to use them: In an out of harbors obvously. In narrow fairways and
rivers or canals. When the speed of sailing is not sufficient to the arrival
goal, unless you are a purist which I'm not. When caught in the doldrums.
When water is low or you have an emergency on board. Here's one trick.
Sail Motoring as opposed to Motor Sailing. When you can't go in the right
direction due to the winds running the prop at slow rpms enhances the
ability of the boat to point high by 10 to 20 additional degrees. (Variable
as to hull and conditions). If that will get you through a narrow passage
between islands so be it. When on delivery jobs with a deadline to meet.
When getting out of the way of or handling the presence of a storm
condition. When you need electricity to listen to the NBA, NFL, America's
Cup or World Cup finals.


2. When not to use the engine. Most of the time. It certainly de-tracts
from the peace of it all. When in a race that doesn't allow it, when you
are down to the last 1/3 of a tank. . . . . .and so on and so forth.

3. Add your own reasons. In the end they will always be 'your own
reasons.'

M.

"Michael" wrote in message
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1 When to use them: In an out of harbors obvously.
Not necessarily. Practice makes perfect.

In narrow fairways and
rivers or canals.

Very narrow. Learn to tack.

When the speed of sailing is not sufficient to the arrival
goal, unless you are a purist which I'm not.

When caught in the doldrums.

Then, what's the rush?

2. When not to use the engine. Most of the time. It certainly de-tracts
from the peace of it all. When in a race that doesn't allow it, when you
are down to the last 1/3 of a tank. . . . . .and so on and so forth.

See above.

3. Add your own reasons. In the end they will always be 'your own
reasons.'

How about to practice not relying on it. Dock under sail. Anchor under
sail. Pick up a mooring under sail.

Michael,
You forgot to list when you want to take a shower at sea (our water pump =
is a terrible drain for showers...)

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

1. You run a line from the hot water outlet on the engine to the shower to
the drain to the stern outlet?

2. Shower at Sea? That's what rain squalls are for.

3. Shower? What's a Shower? Next thing you know you'll be wanting a real
head!

4. I love the smell of over ripe sailors in the morning.

M.

"katysails" wrote in message
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Michael,
You forgot to list when you want to take a shower at sea (our water pump is
a terrible drain for showers...)

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"Michael" wrote in message
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4. I love the smell of over ripe sailors in the morning.

Do you? Are you sure that you are in the right ng?



Regards


Donal
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Damn . . .back to the merchant marine . . . .

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Michael" wrote in message
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4. I love the smell of over ripe sailors in the morning.

Do you? Are you sure that you are in the right ng?



Regards


Donal
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Michael asked: 1. You run a line from the hot water outlet on the =
engine to the shower to
the drain to the stern outlet?

No....hot water through engine to got water heater/storage unit (duel =
system) through pump to faucet and shower head, then out drain....

2. Shower at Sea? That's what rain squalls are for.

If it rains....

3. Shower? What's a Shower? Next thing you know you'll be wanting a =
real
head!

Got a real head....don't do no cedar bucket stuff....

4. I love the smell of over ripe sailors in the morning.

I don't...I love the smell of fresh air, water, and rain....the smell of =
over ripe bodies is disgusting.

M.

If there is no rain then refer to #4.

"katysails" wrote in message
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Michael asked: 1. You run a line from the hot water outlet on the engine to
the shower to
the drain to the stern outlet?

No....hot water through engine to got water heater/storage unit (duel
system) through pump to faucet and shower head, then out drain....

2. Shower at Sea? That's what rain squalls are for.

If it rains....

3. Shower? What's a Shower? Next thing you know you'll be wanting a real
head!

Got a real head....don't do no cedar bucket stuff....

4. I love the smell of over ripe sailors in the morning.

I don't...I love the smell of fresh air, water, and rain....the smell of
over ripe bodies is disgusting.

M.

Michael said: If there is no rain then refer to #4.


Eeeewwwww...yucky......


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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"Michael" wrote in message ...
1 When to use them:

3. Add your own reasons. In the end they will always be 'your own
reasons.'

M.


Tieing up to a platform offshore to fish
Man overboard
7 knot current in a river
PTO for the big pump
towing
un-grounding
RIATM
watermaker
narrow jetties with big waves on the bow
going to slow to troll for King Mackerels
to slow to drag the shrimp net
in a channel full of fools
In a channel with ships that might suck you into them


When not to: When you can do everything you need to do with wind and sail alone
When you remember that you just spent close to 500 dollars fueling up.


Joe
MSV RedCloud