N1EE wrote:
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

And this shift didn't wake up anybody else on board?


What do you do to get underway again?

I'd probably unlash the helm and gybe around, depending on the boat &
the sea state.


Brien Alkire wrote:
If you're hove-to then somehow the helm was thrown over (unless you mean
you're in irons?). The boat should be oscillating between close hauled with
a backed jib and head to wind.

Depends... in general I'd agree that it's unlikely a boat will heave-to
steadily with the helm lashed (or locked) at a setting for close-hauled
on the opposite tack.

.... Let it fall off onto the new tack, bring the
jib over, get some speed and tack again. If you absolutely don't have
anyone around to help with moving the headsail then you can drop or luff it
once you're settled on the new back and sail by main alone.


Not a bad idea as long as it's a rig where the headsail will blow
cleanly through the foretriangle and not catch on anything. It's still
likely to be slower than gybing around IMHO.

Another good answer is to drop the jib and gain way on the new tack,
then tack and re hoist. This would be one time when a roller furler
would be nice!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I have experienced this a couple of times, except with the windvane
steering instead of the lashed helm. In 25 knots I would probably just
be lazy and gybe, set the vane again, and go back to reading or
whatever I might be doing.
Since you were closehauled the main is sheeted fairly tight, you
should be able to gybe safely without working the sheet.

If the wind were stronger I would set the foresail in the other side
and then tack back.

You didn't say whether the wind shifted or not. If the wind shifted I
might take advantage of the shift and stay on the new tack.

I suppose it would also matter what kind of boat it happened in.

Peter S/Y Anicula

"DSK" skrev i en meddelelse
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N1EE wrote:
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

And this shift didn't wake up anybody else on board?


What do you do to get underway again?

I'd probably unlash the helm and gybe around, depending on the boat
&
the sea state.


Brien Alkire wrote:
If you're hove-to then somehow the helm was thrown over (unless
you mean
you're in irons?). The boat should be oscillating between close
hauled with
a backed jib and head to wind.

Depends... in general I'd agree that it's unlikely a boat will
heave-to
steadily with the helm lashed (or locked) at a setting for
close-hauled
on the opposite tack.

.... Let it fall off onto the new tack, bring the
jib over, get some speed and tack again. If you absolutely don't
have
anyone around to help with moving the headsail then you can drop
or luff it
once you're settled on the new back and sail by main alone.


Not a bad idea as long as it's a rig where the headsail will blow
cleanly through the foretriangle and not catch on anything. It's
still
likely to be slower than gybing around IMHO.

Another good answer is to drop the jib and gain way on the new tack,
then tack and re hoist. This would be one time when a roller furler
would be nice!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"N1EE" wrote in message
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You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind.


I've got some difficulty trying to imagine sailing in 25 kts (30 app.) with
the helm lashed.


The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

I'd put a couple of turns of the lazy sheet around the winch - and let the
sheet go!

What would you do, Bart?


..... And why the hell were you sailing in 30 kts app, with the helm
lashed???


Regards


Donal
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Why? Steady 25kts. I've locked the wheel before in the bay.

"Donal" wrote in message
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"N1EE" wrote in message
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You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind.


I've got some difficulty trying to imagine sailing in 25 kts (30 app.)
with
the helm lashed.


The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

I'd put a couple of turns of the lazy sheet around the winch - and let the
sheet go!

What would you do, Bart?


.... And why the hell were you sailing in 30 kts app, with the helm
lashed???


Regards


Donal
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Why? Steady 25kts. I've locked the wheel before in the bay.



Hmmm...


We never get a *steady* 25 kts here. So maybe I just can't picture it.
If we have a 25 kt wind, then there will be gusts of more than 30...

Maybe my boat is a bit lighter than most??? I really cannot see myself
trusting a lashed helm with 30 kts over the deck.



Regards


Donal
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Well, I wouldn't trust it for very long...

Typically, we'll get fairly steady 25 with, yes higher gusts.

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Why? Steady 25kts. I've locked the wheel before in the bay.



Hmmm...


We never get a *steady* 25 kts here. So maybe I just can't picture it.
If we have a 25 kt wind, then there will be gusts of more than 30...

Maybe my boat is a bit lighter than most??? I really cannot see myself
trusting a lashed helm with 30 kts over the deck.



Regards


Donal
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Donal stated: Maybe my boat is a bit lighter than most??? I really =
cannot see myself
trusting a lashed helm with 30 kts over the deck.

We couldn't either. I think it's a crab crusher thing, not a feep fin =
keel thing...Chanteuse wouldn't like it atall....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Donald wrote:
I've got some difficulty trying to imagine sailing in 25 kts (30
app.) with
the helm lashed.

Katysails wrote:
We couldn't either. I think it's a crab crusher thing, not a fin
keel thing...Chanteuse
wouldn't like it at all....


Yes, it would depend on the boat. Modern light weight boats with most
of the stability from the fairly wide beam, fin keel and spaderudder
are not suited to be sailed without continuos corrections of the
rudder.
My boat sails itself well in 25 knots if closehauled. I don't even
have to lash the helm (Wheel). The ability to act this way is normally
sacrificed for extra speed. Boatdesign is always a compromise.
In some cases you can balance the boat by oversheeting the jib a bit
or letting a bit out on the traveller (main) keeping the main flat and
without to much twist - but it will probably only work if the boat
are reasonably well balanced and has a bit of directional stability.


"katysails" skrev i en meddelelse
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Donal stated: Maybe my boat is a bit lighter than most??? I really
cannot see myself
trusting a lashed helm with 30 kts over the deck.

We couldn't either. I think it's a crab crusher thing, not a feep fin
keel thing...Chanteuse wouldn't like it atall....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

(N1EE) wrote in message . com...
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior

Start the engine and power back on course.
Unlash the wheel and turn on the autopilot.
Kick my self in the ass for letting it happen in the first place.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Engine?? What engine? This is a sailing newsgroup.

"Joe" wrote in message
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(N1EE) wrote in message
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You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior

Start the engine and power back on course.
Unlash the wheel and turn on the autopilot.
Kick my self in the ass for letting it happen in the first place.

Joe
MSV RedCloud