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Horvath February 9th 04 10:54 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html





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Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 11:39 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Wow... Jane looks hot in that pic. Who gives a crap about
her politics. Besides, she married Turner. That made up
for everything.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html





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felton February 10th 04 12:15 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Man, it is sad to see the Republicans scraping the bottom of the
barrell like this. Having Rush question Kerry's Viet Nam record is
like having Robert Tilton question your religious principles. As the
Republicans chose Bush over McCain in the last election, it would seem
that military service doesn't mean much, anyway. Or qualifications,
for that matter.

I wonder what Rush was doing on the day of the rally?



On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:54:09 -0500, Horvath
wrote:

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html





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Nav February 10th 04 12:22 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
What's wrong with that? You lost that war didn't you?

Cheers

Horvath wrote:

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html





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The Carrolls February 10th 04 12:46 AM

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Is your point that a decorated war hero is an unpatriotic scumbag?
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.


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tml





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Nav February 10th 04 01:02 AM

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They missed the point that he was there for a good reason.

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:

Is your point that a decorated war hero is an unpatriotic scumbag?
"Horvath" wrote in message
...

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.



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tml





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The Carrolls February 10th 04 01:45 AM

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I was just wondering what was Horvath's point. Or perhaps he is just one of
Rush's mindless dittoheads apouting Rush's rhetoric with no original thought
or consideration.
"Nav" wrote in message
...
They missed the point that he was there for a good reason.

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:

Is your point that a decorated war hero is an unpatriotic scumbag?
"Horvath" wrote in message
...

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.




http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai..._extra.guest.h
tml





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Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 02:06 AM

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You have to wonder?

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
I was just wondering what was Horvath's point. Or perhaps he is just one

of
Rush's mindless dittoheads apouting Rush's rhetoric with no original

thought
or consideration.
"Nav" wrote in message
...
They missed the point that he was there for a good reason.

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:

Is your point that a decorated war hero is an unpatriotic scumbag?
"Horvath" wrote in message
...

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.





http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai..._extra.guest.h
tml





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Horvath February 10th 04 04:30 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:15:37 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


I wonder what Rush was doing on the day of the rally?


Probably working. Rush had a job.




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Maynard G. Krebbs February 10th 04 05:21 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:39:07 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Wow... Jane looks hot in that pic. Who gives a crap about
her politics. Besides, she married Turner. That made up
for everything.


No, it didn't!
Mark E. Williams

felton February 10th 04 06:06 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:30:07 -0500, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:15:37 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


I wonder what Rush was doing on the day of the rally?


Probably working. Rush had a job.


He might have. I believe he dropped out of college in 1969. In any
event, he didn't beat a path to the recruiter's office. I guess by
the time this picture was taken Kerry was a decorated veteran and
college grad, while Rush was a drop out seeking work as a disc jockey.
Thanks for posting the picture. It does sort of bring things into
perspective.





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Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 07:48 AM

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Well, I thought she was a fox back then.

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:39:07 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Wow... Jane looks hot in that pic. Who gives a crap about
her politics. Besides, she married Turner. That made up
for everything.


No, it didn't!
Mark E. Williams




Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 07:49 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
I think you're right. I believe he was collecting unemployment around that
time and eating a lot of fast food. At least according to what I've read.

"felton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:30:07 -0500, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:15:37 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


I wonder what Rush was doing on the day of the rally?


Probably working. Rush had a job.


He might have. I believe he dropped out of college in 1969. In any
event, he didn't beat a path to the recruiter's office. I guess by
the time this picture was taken Kerry was a decorated veteran and
college grad, while Rush was a drop out seeking work as a disc jockey.
Thanks for posting the picture. It does sort of bring things into
perspective.





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Bobsprit February 10th 04 11:32 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Gayanzy wrote...

Well, I thought Kerry was a fox back then.

Horvath February 10th 04 11:34 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:21:29 +1100, Oz wrote this crap:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:54:09 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html


Jeez, and it was only 34 years ago

Lets see in that time you've had one President resign in disgrace,
another getting BJ's in the oval office, and another that blatantly
lied and misrepresented facts to invade another country.


You're slightly wrong. The president that was getting blowjobs in the
oval office was also the one that lied, and invaded another country,
and to cover up his activities, he also invaded Waco Texas.




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Bobsprit February 10th 04 11:35 AM

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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...eib_extra.gues
t.html

Jeez, and it was only 34 years ago



I've also heard rumors that Kerry used to run around in diapers and eat baby
food like it was going outa style!

RB

Bobsprit February 10th 04 11:37 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Lets see in that time you've had one President resign in disgrace,
another getting BJ's in the oval office, and another that blatantly
lied and misrepresented facts to invade another country.


What's wrong with a little stress relief at the office?


RB

thunder February 10th 04 11:39 AM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:06:46 +0000, felton wrote:

He might have. I believe he dropped out of college in 1969. In any
event, he didn't beat a path to the recruiter's office. I guess by
the time this picture was taken Kerry was a decorated veteran and
college grad, while Rush was a drop out seeking work as a disc jockey.
Thanks for posting the picture. It does sort of bring things into
perspective.


Come on, let's be fair. Rush couldn't serve he had a cyst on his ass.

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.htm



Lonny February 10th 04 02:10 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Hey look! There is Ganzy in the picture too!

He made the mistake of thinking it was a gay rights rally! Don't mind
that doobie between his lips, it's just that he likes sucking on
things!

Lonny




Horvath wrote in message . ..
Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html





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Spiker February 10th 04 02:14 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
A fox she was, we thought she was an American and our friend.
That got two of us killed and two others "disappeared" when we hoped she
would tell our families that we were alive.

Three wives and four children were directly effected by Hanoi Jane's
collaboration.

Years just don't soften some things.

Spiker

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Well, I thought she was a fox back then.

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:39:07 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:


Wow... Jane looks hot in that pic. Who gives a crap about
her politics. Besides, she married Turner. That made up
for everything.


No, it didn't!
Mark E. Williams






Bobsprit February 10th 04 02:20 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Years just don't soften some things.


Tell THAT to Porta Scotty's long suffering wife!

RB

felton February 10th 04 02:36 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:39:44 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:06:46 +0000, felton wrote:

He might have. I believe he dropped out of college in 1969. In any
event, he didn't beat a path to the recruiter's office. I guess by
the time this picture was taken Kerry was a decorated veteran and
college grad, while Rush was a drop out seeking work as a disc jockey.
Thanks for posting the picture. It does sort of bring things into
perspective.


Come on, let's be fair. Rush couldn't serve he had a cyst on his ass.

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.htm


I think the most obvious explanation was that it was his head up his
ass rather than a cyst, but that is water under the bridge. Perhaps a
trip to prison for his drug offenses will give him a real ass related
ailment. One can only hope:)

Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 04:17 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...


Well, I thought Kerry was a fox back then.




Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 04:17 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
The war is over. Get over it.

"Spiker" wrote in message
...
A fox she was, we thought she was an American and our friend.
That got two of us killed and two others "disappeared" when we hoped she
would tell our families that we were alive.

Three wives and four children were directly effected by Hanoi Jane's
collaboration.

Years just don't soften some things.

Spiker

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Well, I thought she was a fox back then.

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:39:07 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:


Wow... Jane looks hot in that pic. Who gives a crap about
her politics. Besides, she married Turner. That made up
for everything.


No, it didn't!
Mark E. Williams








Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 04:18 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
hahaha... ok. I'm being unfair. Was it Bob?

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:06:46 +0000, felton wrote:

He might have. I believe he dropped out of college in 1969. In any
event, he didn't beat a path to the recruiter's office. I guess by
the time this picture was taken Kerry was a decorated veteran and
college grad, while Rush was a drop out seeking work as a disc jockey.
Thanks for posting the picture. It does sort of bring things into
perspective.


Come on, let's be fair. Rush couldn't serve he had a cyst on his ass.

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.htm





Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 04:19 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Yes, and the Republicans impeached him for his "high crimes" of
the blow job. Seems to me that Bush should get equal treatment
for murdering 1000s and lying about the reasons for invading a
country.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:21:29 +1100, Oz wrote this crap:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:54:09 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...ib_extra.guest

..html

Jeez, and it was only 34 years ago

Lets see in that time you've had one President resign in disgrace,
another getting BJ's in the oval office, and another that blatantly
lied and misrepresented facts to invade another country.


You're slightly wrong. The president that was getting blowjobs in the
oval office was also the one that lied, and invaded another country,
and to cover up his activities, he also invaded Waco Texas.




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Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 05:37 PM

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Yes it is an appropriate answer. I had several friends who died in VN.
So what. They're dead, I think of them often, she stood up for what she
believed in. I didn't agree with it at the time, but that's life, and that's
what makes this an free and open society. I'm certain that LBJ and
his generals had a lot more to do with death and destruction than Jane
and Tom.

Just because someone named spiker posts a message, doesn't mean
I have to be believe him or be sympathetic to what he posts.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
That has to qualify as the most callous posting to the group in some time.

Though I served during wartime I wasn't in a war zone and never had the
experience of watching compatriots killed by enemy action. But I had an
uncle in WWII who did, and who suffered recurring nightmares about it his
entire life. Regardless of one's political views, his heart must go out to
those who have lived through such an experience. "Get over it" isn't an
answer.


On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:17:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

The war is over. Get over it.

"Spiker" wrote in message
...
A fox she was, we thought she was an American and our friend.
That got two of us killed and two others "disappeared" when we hoped

she
would tell our families that we were alive.

Three wives and four children were directly effected by Hanoi Jane's
collaboration.

Years just don't soften some things.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




felton February 10th 04 05:38 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:54:09 -0500, Horvath
wrote:

Here's a good picture of John Kerry sitting with Jane Fonda at an
anti-America rally.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tra.guest.html





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Here you go. A real war hero's thought about Rush.....

http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.sh...2/11/25/171414


"McCain Apologizes to Clowns for Comparison to Rush

Sen. John McCain, RINO-Ariz., today withdrew his comparison of talk
radio star Rush Limbaugh to a circus clown - by apologizing to clowns.

"I apologize to circus clowns all over America," McCain told Fox News
Channel's Neil Cavuto. He specifically mentioned Bozo and Chuckles.

McCain said his previous comment sparked angry phone calls to his
office from circus clowns nationwide.

You don't like him, Cavuto pressed. The senator insisted he didn't
dislike Limbaugh and viewed him as a skilled entertainer.

If he met Limbaugh, he told Cavuto, he'd say to the radio star's face
that he viewed him "not as a circus clown but like a circus clown."
Then he immediately withdrew that comparison yet again, lest big-top
professionals take offense."



Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 06:40 PM

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And, you're so blinded that you can't figure out that people have a right
and
obligation to disagree with a governments position and act on their
disagreement.
You're pretty quick to attack Hanoi Jane, but you're not so quick to attack
Karl
Rove and his cronies, for example, for trying to destroy people's lives in
the here
and now. Grow up.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:37:25 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Yes it is an appropriate answer. I had several friends who died in VN.
So what. They're dead,


And are you so blinded that you will acknowledge no difference between

being
told they were killed and having been present when it happened?

Just because someone named spiker posts a message, doesn't mean
I have to be believe him or be sympathetic to what he posts.


I should think that if you had doubts about his truthfulness the

appropriate
thing would have been to express those doubts, rather than proceeding on

the
basis that what he said was true, but of no significance.



Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Matt Colie February 10th 04 07:15 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Jonathan,
You are obviously not a student of the period. You would know the
incident referred to is true (if the Hanoi press and our flyers are to
be believed). She had long been vocal, but the prisoners did not know
it as they were denied rights afforded the Geneva Conventions. So when
they were paraded in front of her and responded that they were well
treated and much regretted the actions of the country (this of course
had nothing to do with the man standing behind them with a cattle prod -
the prod is visible in one of Jane's publicity pictures). They had
secreted a slip of paper with the SSN of all the captives so the
families could be informed. It was passed to HJ during a handshake. It
was hoped she would take it back to the Red Cross or any other agency.
Instead - As soon as she was through with the photo-op, she handed the
slip to th lead guard. The beatings that followed were merciless.
You can forget what ever you want to.
Matt Colie

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Yes it is an appropriate answer. I had several friends who died in VN.
So what. They're dead, I think of them often, she stood up for what she
believed in. I didn't agree with it at the time, but that's life, and that's
what makes this an free and open society. I'm certain that LBJ and
his generals had a lot more to do with death and destruction than Jane
and Tom.

Just because someone named spiker posts a message, doesn't mean
I have to be believe him or be sympathetic to what he posts.

"Dave" wrote in message
...

That has to qualify as the most callous posting to the group in some time.

Though I served during wartime I wasn't in a war zone and never had the
experience of watching compatriots killed by enemy action. But I had an
uncle in WWII who did, and who suffered recurring nightmares about it his
entire life. Regardless of one's political views, his heart must go out to
those who have lived through such an experience. "Get over it" isn't an
answer.


On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:17:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:


The war is over. Get over it.

"Spiker" wrote in message
...

A fox she was, we thought she was an American and our friend.
That got two of us killed and two others "disappeared" when we hoped


she

would tell our families that we were alive.

Three wives and four children were directly effected by Hanoi Jane's
collaboration.

Years just don't soften some things.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27






Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 07:23 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
In your opinion... so who gives a crap about your opinion. You're the one
who's been "shooting your mouth off" about rightwing politics on a sailing-
related ng. Get over it, get past it. The VN war is over. People died on
both sides, some heroically, some tragically, most to no purpose. Blaming
HJ is just a cop out. Cars kill the same number of people every year that
died in the entire VN war. Guns in the US aren't far behind. The only thing
you care about is defaming anyone who opposes you or your political views.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:40:43 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

You're pretty quick to attack Hanoi Jane, but you're not so quick to

attack
Karl
Rove and his cronies, for example, for trying to destroy people's lives

in
the here
and now. Grow up.


Best go back and read the posts again before you shoot off you mouth,
Jonathan. You're replying to your own fantastic imaginings of what I might
say, not to what I said.

I said nothing whatever about Hanoi Jane. Look it up. What I did say is

that
your "Get over it" post to "Spiker" demonstrated extreme callousness. I'll
go further--a depraved indifference--to an expression of human pain.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 07:26 PM

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So what. I submit you don't know all the facts either. It's easy
to rehash what HJ did or didn't do, her motivation, and the
results. How do you know, for example, that the beatings
were a direct result of the SSNs? You don't and you can't.
I stand by my comments.

"Matt Colie" wrote in message
...
Jonathan,
You are obviously not a student of the period. You would know the
incident referred to is true (if the Hanoi press and our flyers are to
be believed). She had long been vocal, but the prisoners did not know
it as they were denied rights afforded the Geneva Conventions. So when
they were paraded in front of her and responded that they were well
treated and much regretted the actions of the country (this of course
had nothing to do with the man standing behind them with a cattle prod -
the prod is visible in one of Jane's publicity pictures). They had
secreted a slip of paper with the SSN of all the captives so the
families could be informed. It was passed to HJ during a handshake. It
was hoped she would take it back to the Red Cross or any other agency.
Instead - As soon as she was through with the photo-op, she handed the
slip to th lead guard. The beatings that followed were merciless.
You can forget what ever you want to.
Matt Colie




Bobsprit February 10th 04 08:06 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Well, well...Gayanzy is taking yet another beating!!!

Bwahahahahaha! Maybe his girlfriend, Porta Scotty will help him...?


RB

Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 08:08 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Well, well...Gayanzy is taking yet another beating!!!

Bwahahahahaha! Maybe his girlfriend, Porta Scotty will help him...?


RB




Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 08:14 PM

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I find this entire thread disturbing. It seems to me that it's a poorly
veiled attempt
to accuse Kerry of guilt by association, a favorite tactic of extremists.
For example,
I thought Nixon was a ****head, however, attacking him because he met with
Khrushchev or Mao, doesn't make him a communist sympathizer.

FYI, you don't need to go back to the VN war to find cases of prisoners
being
beaten for refusing to cooperate. There are plenty of examples in recent
times.
Rehashing murky memories and upchucking accusations 40 years later does
nothing useful.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:15:38 -0500, Matt Colie


said:

They had
secreted a slip of paper with the SSN of all the captives so the
families could be informed. It was passed to HJ during a handshake. It
was hoped she would take it back to the Red Cross or any other agency.
Instead - As soon as she was through with the photo-op, she handed the
slip to th lead guard.


Matt,

At least some sources suggest that this part of the story is untrue,

though
even these sources acknowledge that at least one story of a prisoner's

being
beaten for refusing to cooperate is true.



Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Scott Vernon February 10th 04 10:43 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
I know a few guys who are still bitter towards the japs for Pearl Harbor. I
would never even think to tell them to 'get over it'.

SV


"Dave" wrote

I said nothing whatever about Hanoi Jane. Look it up. What I did say is

that
your "Get over it" post to "Spiker" demonstrated extreme callousness. I'll
go further--a depraved indifference--to an expression of human pain.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27



thunder February 10th 04 10:43 PM

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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:14:49 -0800, Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Rehashing murky memories and upchucking accusations 40 years later does
nothing useful.


Better get used to it. This election is shaping up to be one very hard
fought, very dirty, campaign. It may be difficult to wade through the mud
both sides are starting to fling.

Nav February 10th 04 11:07 PM

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Well at their age perhaps they should. Most of those who did that are
DEAD and it was a military blunder due to diplomats not doing their job
properly. Bit like Bush actually.

Cheers

Scott Vernon wrote:

I know a few guys who are still bitter towards the japs for Pearl Harbor. I
would never even think to tell them to 'get over it'.

SV


"Dave" wrote

I said nothing whatever about Hanoi Jane. Look it up. What I did say is


that

your "Get over it" post to "Spiker" demonstrated extreme callousness. I'll
go further--a depraved indifference--to an expression of human pain.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27





Scott Vernon February 10th 04 11:36 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 

"Nav" wrote ...
Bit like Bush actually.


get over it.


Nav February 10th 04 11:55 PM

John Kerry with Jane Fonda
 
Oh, I'm trying but he keeps reminding me.

Cheers

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Nav" wrote ...

Bit like Bush actually.



get over it.




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