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Julia February 9th 04 09:13 PM

Sailing Question
 
I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?

Nav February 9th 04 09:15 PM

Sailing Question
 
A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?



Scott Vernon February 9th 04 09:36 PM

Sailing Question
 
Don't mind Nav, he doesn't know either.

The simplest answer would be the keel, but it really is more complicated
than that. here's a good place to start reading.
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/learningtosail/


Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

"Nav" wrote in message
...
A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?




DSK February 9th 04 09:59 PM

Sailing Question
 
Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways?


You mean, as opposed to when it's blowing up and down?


I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go


Actually, that isn't exactly correct.


.... But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?


Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.

Go here
http://asianyachting.com/AYmasters/l23.htm
and scroll about halfway down the page.




I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?


Small sailboats without a cabin usually aren't referred to as "runabouts."
I'd suggest something small and simple and inexpensive to start with.
There are several reasons for this, the main on being that smaller boats
are less work and more fun, also they are generally more responsive and
will teach you quickly.

Here are some other web pages with basic sailing info
http://www.andrews.com/kysc/terms.html#diagram

http://www.amya.org/sailmanual/part3.html

Some of the university sailing clubs also have great web sites with basic
sailing lessons. One of my favorites is the University of Wisconsin...

http://www.hoofersailing.org/instruction

Unfortunately my old school does not have a basic "How-To" on it's web
site

http://www.ncsailing.org/html/module...showpage&pid=7

But anyway there is so much info on sailing out there that it sometimes
surprises me that there is room on the wwweb for anything else.

Nav wrote:

A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.


Don't know the answer, eh?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 10:42 PM

Sailing Question
 
Good link. That's a good place to start.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Don't mind Nav, he doesn't know either.

The simplest answer would be the keel, but it really is more complicated
than that. here's a good place to start reading.
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/learningtosail/


Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

"Nav" wrote in message
...
A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?






Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 10:43 PM

Sailing Question
 
Doug, don't get so technical. Bob will have trouble keeping up with
terms like thingamajig.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways?


You mean, as opposed to when it's blowing up and down?


I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go


Actually, that isn't exactly correct.


.... But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?


Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.

Go here
http://asianyachting.com/AYmasters/l23.htm
and scroll about halfway down the page.




I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?


Small sailboats without a cabin usually aren't referred to as "runabouts."
I'd suggest something small and simple and inexpensive to start with.
There are several reasons for this, the main on being that smaller boats
are less work and more fun, also they are generally more responsive and
will teach you quickly.

Here are some other web pages with basic sailing info
http://www.andrews.com/kysc/terms.html#diagram

http://www.amya.org/sailmanual/part3.html

Some of the university sailing clubs also have great web sites with basic
sailing lessons. One of my favorites is the University of Wisconsin...

http://www.hoofersailing.org/instruction

Unfortunately my old school does not have a basic "How-To" on it's web
site

http://www.ncsailing.org/html/module...showpage&pid=7

But anyway there is so much info on sailing out there that it sometimes
surprises me that there is room on the wwweb for anything else.

Nav wrote:

A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.


Don't know the answer, eh?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Horvath February 9th 04 10:46 PM

Sailing Question
 
On 9 Feb 2004 13:13:38 -0800, (Julia) wrote this
crap:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?


How old are you, and how do you look in a white tank top and orange
shorts?




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Nav February 9th 04 10:46 PM

Sailing Question
 


DSK wrote:


Unfortunately my old school does not have a basic "How-To" on it's web
site


You went to school? Now that is a surprise.

Cheers


Nav February 9th 04 10:54 PM

Sailing Question
 


DSK wrote:



Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.


It's called a keel. Perhaps you had better visit those elementary web
sites again.

Cheers


DSK February 9th 04 11:14 PM

Sailing Question
 
DSK wrote:
Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.




Nav wrote:
It's called a keel.


Not always. Sometimes it is called a centerboard or daggerboard or leeboard or
bilgeboard, or in the case of windsurfers, a skeg.

A 'keel' is also a structural member...


Perhaps you had better visit those elementary web
sites again.


Yeah, maybe so...

BTW when are you going to show everybody all those emails?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Nav February 9th 04 11:30 PM

Sailing Question
 


DSK wrote:

DSK wrote:

Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.




Nav wrote:
It's called a keel.



Not always. Sometimes it is called a centerboard or daggerboard or leeboard or
bilgeboard, or in the case of windsurfers, a skeg.


Those are keels too! Keel is an all encompassing term for a plate
projecting from the bottom of a vessel.


A 'keel' is also a structural member...

It's also a mark.

Cheers



Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 11:37 PM

Sailing Question
 
Forget it Horvath, she's a she.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 9 Feb 2004 13:13:38 -0800, (Julia) wrote this
crap:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?


How old are you, and how do you look in a white tank top and orange
shorts?




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe




DSK February 9th 04 11:39 PM

Sailing Question
 
Nav wrote:

....Keel is an all encompassing term for a plate
projecting from the bottom of a vessel.


Yeah right, OK, sure.

BTW when are you going to post those emails?

DSK


Scott Vernon February 10th 04 12:00 AM

Sailing Question
 
LOL !!!!!!


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Doug, don't get so technical. Bob will have trouble keeping up with
terms like thingamajig.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways?


You mean, as opposed to when it's blowing up and down?


I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go


Actually, that isn't exactly correct.


.... But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?


Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.

Go here
http://asianyachting.com/AYmasters/l23.htm
and scroll about halfway down the page.




I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?


Small sailboats without a cabin usually aren't referred to as

"runabouts."
I'd suggest something small and simple and inexpensive to start with.
There are several reasons for this, the main on being that smaller boats
are less work and more fun, also they are generally more responsive and
will teach you quickly.

Here are some other web pages with basic sailing info
http://www.andrews.com/kysc/terms.html#diagram

http://www.amya.org/sailmanual/part3.html

Some of the university sailing clubs also have great web sites with

basic
sailing lessons. One of my favorites is the University of Wisconsin...

http://www.hoofersailing.org/instruction

Unfortunately my old school does not have a basic "How-To" on it's web
site

http://www.ncsailing.org/html/module...showpage&pid=7

But anyway there is so much info on sailing out there that it sometimes
surprises me that there is room on the wwweb for anything else.

Nav wrote:

A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions

here.

Don't know the answer, eh?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King





Scott Vernon February 10th 04 12:05 AM

Sailing Question
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
Doug, don't get so technical. Bob will have trouble keeping up with
terms like thingamajig.


and billy jane will get excited.
;)


Nav February 10th 04 12:19 AM

Sailing Question
 


DSK wrote:
Nav wrote:


....Keel is an all encompassing term for a plate
projecting from the bottom of a vessel.



Yeah right, OK, sure.

BTW when are you going to post those emails?


What emails?

Cheers


Nav February 10th 04 12:24 AM

Sailing Question
 


DSK wrote:

Nav wrote:


....Keel is an all encompassing term for a plate
projecting from the bottom of a vessel.



Yeah right, OK, sure.



Yet another basic truth Doug!

Cheers


DSK February 10th 04 12:33 AM

Sailing Question... a somewhat personal
 
BTW when are you going to post those emails?



Nav wrote:
What emails?


You said you were going to email Phil Bolger and get the full facts on
LPOS for one of his designs. Then you were going to email an SAYRA
official and ask him about using the CSR as a safety measure. IIRC
there were a few more little 'fact checking' emails you were going to
send, and post the results. Something about showing up all my BS.
Surely you haven't forgotten? Or did the results not come out the way
you'd hoped?

DSK


Nav February 10th 04 12:49 AM

Sailing Question... a somewhat personal
 


DSK wrote:

BTW when are you going to post those emails?



Nav wrote:
What emails?



You said you were going to email Phil Bolger and get the full facts on
LPOS for one of his designs.


Thats not what i said. I said we could email to verify my calculated LPS
after agreening terms for settling the bet.

Then you were going to email an SAYRA
official and ask him about using the CSR as a safety measure.


Yes I did that. I can tell you he didn't reply -as I suspected he
wouldn't. Perhaps I should not have mentioned your name. Why don't you
email him too -after all, you claim to know him...

IIRC
there were a few more little 'fact checking' emails you were going to
send, and post the results.


Ah, fantasy time! You mean when I asked the master of a square righged
ship master if letting sheets go would help a square rig ship stand up
(which you said would not work)? Want me to repost his answer?

Something about showing up all my BS.


You're doing very nicely all by yourself.

Cheers


The Carrolls February 10th 04 12:55 AM

Sailing Question
 
Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...
A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?





The Carrolls February 10th 04 12:57 AM

Sailing Question
 
What he said.
"DSK" wrote in message
...
Julia wrote:

I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways?


You mean, as opposed to when it's blowing up and down?


I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go


Actually, that isn't exactly correct.


.... But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?


Sailboats have a thingamajig sticking down into the water, like a blade,
which goes easily through the water forwards (or backwards) but resists
moving to the side.

Go here
http://asianyachting.com/AYmasters/l23.htm
and scroll about halfway down the page.




I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?


Small sailboats without a cabin usually aren't referred to as "runabouts."
I'd suggest something small and simple and inexpensive to start with.
There are several reasons for this, the main on being that smaller boats
are less work and more fun, also they are generally more responsive and
will teach you quickly.

Here are some other web pages with basic sailing info
http://www.andrews.com/kysc/terms.html#diagram

http://www.amya.org/sailmanual/part3.html

Some of the university sailing clubs also have great web sites with basic
sailing lessons. One of my favorites is the University of Wisconsin...

http://www.hoofersailing.org/instruction

Unfortunately my old school does not have a basic "How-To" on it's web
site

http://www.ncsailing.org/html/module...showpage&pid=7

But anyway there is so much info on sailing out there that it sometimes
surprises me that there is room on the wwweb for anything else.

Nav wrote:

A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.


Don't know the answer, eh?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Nav February 10th 04 01:01 AM

Sailing Question
 


or won't?

Cheers

Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...

A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:


I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?






DSK February 10th 04 01:23 AM

Sailing Question... a somewhat personal
 
You said you were going to email Phil Bolger and get the full facts on
LPOS for one of his designs.



Nav wrote
Thats not what i said. I said we could email to verify my calculated LPS
after agreening terms for settling the bet.


Ahem... shall I google it up for you? In any event, you didn't... or the
answer was would have proved you wrong, and so you can't admit it...



Then you were going to email an SAYRA
official and ask him about using the CSR as a safety measure.


Yes I did that. I can tell you he didn't reply -as I suspected he
wouldn't. Perhaps I should not have mentioned your name. Why don't you
email him too -after all, you claim to know him...


I don't have to, I'll speak with him next time I see him at a regatta.





IIRC
there were a few more little 'fact checking' emails you were going to
send, and post the results.


Ah, fantasy time! You mean when I asked the master of a square righged
ship master if letting sheets go would help a square rig ship stand up
(which you said would not work)? Want me to repost his answer?


Sure, if it will make you feel better. When you are so frustrated and
befuddled by life, it would be mean of me to deny your one little
triumph...if you regard it as that.

Frankly, in the case of a square rigger being knocked down, the weight &
windage of the spars & rigging are going to have a significant effect.
Letting the sheets run might help... but it might not help that much, and it
darn sure wouldn't be a cure-all.



Something about showing up all my BS.


You're doing very nicely all by yourself.


Yep.

DSK


The Carrolls February 10th 04 01:46 AM

Sailing Question
 
From my point of view it is the samething.
"Nav" wrote in message
...


or won't?

Cheers

Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...

A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:


I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?







Nav February 10th 04 01:57 AM

Sailing Question... a somewhat personal
 


DSK wrote:

You said you were going to email Phil Bolger and get the full facts on
LPOS for one of his designs.



Nav wrote
Thats not what i said. I said we could email to verify my calculated LPS
after agreening terms for settling the bet.



Ahem... shall I google it up for you?


Please do.

In any event, you didn't... or the
answer was would have proved you wrong, and so you can't admit it...


Sure, anything you want to believe. My point is still that of a
gentleman -after all, what's the point of bothering them if you won't
agree to gentlemans terms?



Then you were going to email an SAYRA
official and ask him about using the CSR as a safety measure.


Yes I did that. I can tell you he didn't reply -as I suspected he
wouldn't. Perhaps I should not have mentioned your name. Why don't you
email him too -after all, you claim to know him...



I don't have to, I'll speak with him next time I see him at a regatta.


Sure you will. But I can't help wondering why won't he confirm what you
say by email...

Cheers


Nav February 10th 04 02:03 AM

Sailing Question
 
I see. Are you perhaps an advocate of the "sit on your fat behind and
let someone else do the work for you" method of education?

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:

From my point of view it is the samething.
"Nav" wrote in message
...


or won't?

Cheers


Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...


A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:



I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?






The Carrolls February 10th 04 02:46 AM

Sailing Question
 
Do you have a point here? Sharing a little information and adding to the
participants in our sport(or what ever you wish to call it) seems to me a
good thing. Passing on information through books, on the internet, through
conversation or such is one of the things that seperates us from lower life
forms."Nav" wrote in message
...
I see. Are you perhaps an advocate of the "sit on your fat behind and
let someone else do the work for you" method of education?

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:

From my point of view it is the samething.
"Nav" wrote in message
...


or won't?

Cheers


Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...


A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions

here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:



I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind

is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the

front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?








Scott Vernon February 10th 04 03:04 AM

Sailing Question
 

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Do you have a point here? Sharing a little information and adding to the
participants in our sport(or what ever you wish to call it) seems to me a
good thing. Passing on information through books, on the internet, through
conversation or such is one of the things that seperates us from lower

life
forms.


that , and using toilet paper.

SV


Gay Sailor February 10th 04 03:10 AM

Sailing Question
 
Your best bet is to go to Capt Neal's sailing for novices web page.
He is a sailor of unequaled brilliance in all things, especially those
nautical. If a mere fleck of his brilliance rubbed off on you, you'd be an
above average sailor. He is now on sabbatical, acting as a goodwill diplomat
spreading his wisdom and knowledge throughout the eastern mid Atlantic
region.



"Julia" wrote in message
m...
I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind is
blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the front
the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?




Scott Vernon February 10th 04 03:20 AM

Sailing Question
 

"Gay Sailor" wrote
If a mere fleck of his brilliance rubbed off on you, you'd better
get to a doctor ASAP.




The Carrolls February 10th 04 04:03 AM

Sailing Question
 
Using it for what?
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Do you have a point here? Sharing a little information and adding to

the
participants in our sport(or what ever you wish to call it) seems to me

a
good thing. Passing on information through books, on the internet,

through
conversation or such is one of the things that seperates us from lower

life
forms.


that , and using toilet paper.

SV




Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 04:28 AM

Sailing Question
 
My suggestion would be stuffing it in bob's mouth, but that's just a
suggestion.

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Using it for what?
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Do you have a point here? Sharing a little information and adding to

the
participants in our sport(or what ever you wish to call it) seems to

me
a
good thing. Passing on information through books, on the internet,

through
conversation or such is one of the things that seperates us from lower

life
forms.


that , and using toilet paper.

SV






Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 04:29 AM

Sailing Question
 
Look what happened to Bob...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Gay Sailor" wrote
If a mere fleck of his brilliance rubbed off on you, you'd better
get to a doctor ASAP.






Nav February 10th 04 06:22 AM

Sailing Question
 
Yes, my point is this: I have done much more than pass on a few URLs.

There are two scenarios. (1) The questioner was either ignorant of how
to find the answer to their question on the web or (2) was too lazy to
do it for himself.

Now the knowlege has been imparted and/or laziness highlighted. Now we
begin to see the emergence of a sailor who gets off his butt and solves
his own problems.

All thanks to Navvie!

Cheers


The Carrolls wrote:

Do you have a point here? Sharing a little information and adding to the
participants in our sport(or what ever you wish to call it) seems to me a
good thing. Passing on information through books, on the internet, through
conversation or such is one of the things that seperates us from lower life
forms."Nav" wrote in message
...

I see. Are you perhaps an advocate of the "sit on your fat behind and
let someone else do the work for you" method of education?

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:


From my point of view it is the samething.
"Nav" wrote in message
...


or won't?

Cheers



Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...



A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions


here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:




I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind


is

blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the


front

the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?






Scott Vernon February 10th 04 02:05 PM

Sailing Question
 
You told her to google for an answer. Must one stand up to google?

Scotty


"Navvie" wrote
Now we
begin to see the emergence of a sailor who gets off his butt and solves
his own problems.




Scott Vernon February 10th 04 02:07 PM

Sailing Question
 
There are two scenarios. (1) a troll (2) a fresh faced n00b wanting to
learn to sail, figuring this was a good place to ask a sailing question.
Which it is, or should be.

Scotty


"Nav" wrote in message
...
Yes, my point is this: I have done much more than pass on a few URLs.

There are two scenarios. (1) The questioner was either ignorant of how
to find the answer to their question on the web or (2) was too lazy to
do it for himself.

Now the knowlege has been imparted and/or laziness highlighted. Now we
begin to see the emergence of a sailor who gets off his butt and solves
his own problems.

All thanks to Navvie!

Cheers


The Carrolls wrote:

Do you have a point here? Sharing a little information and adding to

the
participants in our sport(or what ever you wish to call it) seems to me

a
good thing. Passing on information through books, on the internet,

through
conversation or such is one of the things that seperates us from lower

life
forms."Nav" wrote in message
...

I see. Are you perhaps an advocate of the "sit on your fat behind and
let someone else do the work for you" method of education?

Cheers

The Carrolls wrote:


From my point of view it is the samething.
"Nav" wrote in message
...


or won't?

Cheers



Can't answer the question can you?
"Nav" wrote in message
...



A sailor knows how to use the tools at his/her disposal. Try a

google
search for such elementary questions and then ask harder questions


here.

Cheers

Julia wrote:




I have a question. How do you make a sailing boat go when the wind


is

blowing sideways? I know that when the wind is blowing from the


front

the boat can't go and that when it is blowing from the back it will
push you through the water. But when the wind is coming from your
side what keeps the wind from blowing you sideways?

I am interested in learning to sail a boat and want to buy my own
little one first. What would be better, a runabout or one of those
little ones with a little cabin underneath?







DSK February 10th 04 04:11 PM

Sailing Question... a somewhat personal
 
Nav wrote
Thats not what i said. I said we could email to verify my calculated LPS
after agreening terms for settling the bet.






Ahem... shall I google it up for you?



Please do.



From: The_navigator© )
Subject: Best entry level pocket cruiser

View this article only
Newsgroups: alt.sailing.asa
Date: 2003-12-03 13:28:52 PST

I've already estimated the LPS for the micro. It's a trivial problem
from the published displacement and ballast and cross section. If I post
an email to Bolger and friends and they confirm the veracity of my
estimate (which is 180 degrees) will you pay up?

Cheers MC


In other words... you are caught lying again. Why can't you keep your
story straight? You wanted Bolger to prove you right, as I said, and
that leaves one of 3 possibilities
1- you never emailed Phil Bolger (in other words, you're a liar... again)
2- you did but he didn't reply.
3- Bolger did reply and gave you the rasberry.

#2 would leave you with a shred of credibility, but it would seem that
you would have said at some point 'he's not answering my email' instead
of disappearing from the discussion.


I don't have to, I'll speak with him next time I see him at a regatta.


Sure you will. But I can't help wondering why won't he confirm what you
say by email...


Possibly because he realizes what a pedantic fraud you are. You make it
rather obvious sometimes.

DSK


Julia February 10th 04 05:23 PM

Sailing Question
 
Thank you. I am reading some of the links you gave me, Doug. I'm
thinking maybe I should take some instruction.

To the person who asked, I am 23 and I like tanks and shorts but I
don't really look good in them. I'm not the prettiest girl in town.

Jonathan Ganz February 10th 04 05:32 PM

Sailing Question
 
Don't know who asked, but looks have nothing to do with sailing
ability. The more you learn about sailing and the more you do it,
the greater will be your self-esteem. Sailing is not about ego, it's
about being in tune with the multi-dimensions involved in the sport.

Go for it.

"Julia" wrote in message
om...
Thank you. I am reading some of the links you gave me, Doug. I'm
thinking maybe I should take some instruction.

To the person who asked, I am 23 and I like tanks and shorts but I
don't really look good in them. I'm not the prettiest girl in town.




Wally February 10th 04 05:45 PM

Sailing Question
 
Julia wrote:

Thank you. I am reading some of the links you gave me, Doug. I'm
thinking maybe I should take some instruction.


Some instruction can certainly help - try to find out if there's a sailing
school or club near you. I got started with a beginner's course after doing
a bunch of reading. I think the reading helped a lot in getting the most out
of the course.

As for what type of boat to go for, it kinda depends on what sort of sailing
you want to do. That said, a small open type (called a dinghy) is often a
good way to start - they're not too expensive and have the main features
that any sailboat has. An alternative to buying your own is to crew for
someone else, or hire. This is good for getting a better understanding of
what the various boats are like before spending real money on one of your
own.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk/music





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