Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull in the air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of such a tilt

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Lean is not tip over dufus.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull in the
air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of such a
tilt

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Lean is not tip over dufus.

Wong again, Gayanzy!

LEAN:
1 a : to incline, deviate, or bend from a vertical position

And...TILT, according to websters:
1 : to become tipped : Topple
2 : LEAN

Bwahahahahaha! You'd think the poor fool would check before exposing himself,
but he likes beatings!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Wong? Are you from China?

Tip over = capsize

You're the one who's been exposed... yuck.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Lean is not tip over dufus.

Wong again, Gayanzy!

LEAN:
1 a : to incline, deviate, or bend from a vertical position

And...TILT, according to websters:
1 : to become tipped : Topple
2 : LEAN

Bwahahahahaha! You'd think the poor fool would check before exposing
himself,
but he likes beatings!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Tip over = capsize


A boat that has heeled by a single degree is also tipping over, but it has not
capsized.
You have no command of sailing terms or basic English.

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

What do you expect from an internet sailor?

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Lean is not tip over dufus.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull in
the
air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of such a
tilt

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Only on your planet... the liars' planet.

Keep reply to all my posts. YOU'RE WINNING!!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Tip over = capsize


A boat that has heeled by a single degree is also tipping over, but it has
not
capsized.
You have no command of sailing terms or basic English.

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Sounds like you're the expert on non-straight. Do tell.

wrote in message
...
On 09 Feb 2004 19:16:59 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Tip over = capsize


A boat that has heeled by a single degree is also tipping over, but it
has not
capsized.
You have no command of sailing terms or basic English.

RB

You'll find Gayanzy has no concept of "straight" either.

BB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

The ability to read.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
What do you expect from an internet sailor?

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Lean is not tip over dufus.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull in
the
air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of such a
tilt

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

he can read, but he can't comprehend.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
The ability to read.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
What do you expect from an internet sailor?

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Lean is not tip over dufus.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull
in
the
air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of such
a
tilt

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Nutsy,

You've done it again, haven't you? You've turned a sail discussion into
a stupid word game!

Heel; a dog staying behind his master leg. Heel; the back portion of a
foot
Heel; a person of bad character

Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.
The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of the
sail during sailing.

The common method on a monohull to reduce this action is counter weight
on the keel, hull shape and ballast

This discussion was about efficency of the sailing vessel as the angle
of the mast changed

You screwed that line of discussion! I guess a Ganz says YOU WON AGAIN.

So What???

OT

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and the
term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts the
hull clear.
Word game or not, Gayanzy was not correct in his statement. You infer that this
discussion degenerated, but I made a valid supported point and it was Gayanzy
who degenerated. Examine the entire thread.

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

You screwed that line of discussion! I guess a Ganz says YOU WON AGAIN.


Yes, I did. But our discussion was basically ended. We were only arguing heel
by design vs. heeling as an "evil" which had run it's course.

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

No. You're a LIAR AND A THIEF. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and
the
term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts
the
hull clear.
Word game or not, Gayanzy was not correct in his statement. You infer that
this
discussion degenerated, but I made a valid supported point and it was
Gayanzy
who degenerated. Examine the entire thread.

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

The only thing that has run its course is your mental ability.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You screwed that line of discussion! I guess a Ganz says YOU WON AGAIN.


Yes, I did. But our discussion was basically ended. We were only arguing
heel
by design vs. heeling as an "evil" which had run it's course.

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

No ****... or, actually, just ****.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
he can read, but he can't comprehend.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
The ability to read.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
What do you expect from an internet sailor?

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Lean is not tip over dufus.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull
in
the
air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of
such
a
tilt

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of the
sail during sailing.


The "effective height" may be reduced, but is the actual height reduced?

The Port Mayaca bridge on the St. Lucie Canal (at Lake Okeechobee) has 49 foot
clearance. Enterprising locals provide a boat heeling service, using plastic
oil drums on deck, which are filled with water. Will this work with a
catamaran?

-jeff

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and
the
term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts
the
hull clear.

Bob, give it up!

I've sailed a Hobie 15 for about a mile on one hull. I never thought of it
as "heeled".

"Heeled" refers to the stable condition of a monohull in a stiff breeze.

I would never describe travelling at 30kts+ - on a Hobie 15, on one hull, as
"heeled".

Word game or not, Gayanzy was not correct in his statement. You infer that
this
discussion degenerated, but I made a valid supported point and it was
Gayanzy
who degenerated. Examine the entire thread.

I can't be bothered. You're talking nonsense, as usual!


Regards


Donal
--

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

You have your head so far up bobs' ass you're starting to sound like him.

SV

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:28:20 -0800 (PST), (Thom Stewart)
wrote:


The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of the
sail during sailing.


Really? In all cases?

The common method on a monohull to reduce this action is counter weight
on the keel, hull shape and ballast


The counterweight and ballast is used to CONTROL the amount of heel, not
to try
and eliminate heel entirely. Does reducing the effective height of the
sail
always result in slower boat speed?

BB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Donal wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and

the

term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts

the

hull clear.


Bob, give it up!

I've sailed a Hobie 15 for about a mile on one hull. I never thought of it
as "heeled".

"Heeled" refers to the stable condition of a monohull in a stiff breeze.

I would never describe travelling at 30kts+ - on a Hobie 15, on one hull, as
"heeled".




Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).

Don't be sophist.

Cheers

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You have your head so far up bobs' ass you're starting to sound like him.


I noticed this some time ago.

BB *is* Bobsprit.

Regards


Donal
--

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).

I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on one
hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.




Regards


Donal
--

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Donal wrote:

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).


I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on one
hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

No? How about "She heeled over so far that I almost lost control and
capsized". Sailors who have been there would immediately empathize.


"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.


The inability to use language precisely is not something to be
cherished. Why not reduce it to a gutteral " It was WOW man and I mean
WOW!" and then we will all know what you are talking about...


Cheers

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

What a load of crap. I sailed a Hobie 16 for the past two summers in north
carolina dn you didn't.
The dictionary, Hobie website and even the chapman's terms says I'm right.
Let us know when you ever sail a Cat of ANY kind!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).

Rest assured....Donal can't live with it!!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled"

A real sailor? You mean YOU'RE a real sailor???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

QED. Boober isn't a real sailor.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).

I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on
one
hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of
sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.




Regards


Donal
--

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

They speak with the same voice.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You have your head so far up bobs' ass you're starting to sound like him.

SV

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:28:20 -0800 (PST), (Thom
Stewart)
wrote:


The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of
the
sail during sailing.


Really? In all cases?

The common method on a monohull to reduce this action is counter weight
on the keel, hull shape and ballast


The counterweight and ballast is used to CONTROL the amount of heel, not
to try
and eliminate heel entirely. Does reducing the effective height of the
sail
always result in slower boat speed?

BB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

No? How about "She heeled over so far that I almost lost control and
capsized". Sailors who have been there would immediately empathize.


nope...Donal's "real sailor" would say...

"we were flying our hull so high we nearly heeled over upside down,
toppled-like!"
Guess what, Donal? Doesn't matter what a "real sailor" might say. I was right
in any case!
Live with it!

Bwahahahahahahaha!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Donal wrote:

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).


I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on
one
hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use
the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of
sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

No? How about "She heeled over so far that I almost lost control and
capsized". Sailors who have been there would immediately empathize.

I wonder????

Have you actually sailed a Hobie?

They look very unstable on a single hull. In practise, they are quite
easy to control.

In other words, they look like about to lose control - but they aren't.




"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.


The inability to use language precisely is not something to be
cherished. Why not reduce it to a gutteral " It was WOW man and I mean
WOW!" and then we will all know what you are talking about...

Because, they really aren't as unstable as they look when they are "a-hull".
You haven't sailed one, have you?

Well, well!! Donal has got one up on The Navigator!!!


Regards


Donal
--





Cheers

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

that about says it all, eh?


"Bobsprit" wrote ...
Doesn't matter what a "real sailor" might say.

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Donal wrote:



The inability to use language precisely is not something to be
cherished. Why not reduce it to a gutteral " It was WOW man and I mean
WOW!" and then we will all know what you are talking about...


Because, they really aren't as unstable as they look when they are "a-hull".
You haven't sailed one, have you?

Well, well!! Donal has got one up on The Navigator!!!


What are you talking about?

Cheers

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

I've never heard anyone on a multihull say this. I have heard it from
mono sailors. From multihullers I hear, "I was going along, flying the
port hull, and we a gust hit and we capsized."

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Donal wrote:

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).


I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on
one
hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use
the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of
sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

No? How about "She heeled over so far that I almost lost control and
capsized". Sailors who have been there would immediately empathize.


"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.


The inability to use language precisely is not something to be
cherished. Why not reduce it to a gutteral " It was WOW man and I mean
WOW!" and then we will all know what you are talking about...


Cheers

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Perfect. From the liar himself with no prompting. HE WINS!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
that about says it all, eh?


"Bobsprit" wrote ...
Doesn't matter what a "real sailor" might say.

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

In a pig's eye you sailed a hobie 16. Prove it.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of
sailing
a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

What a load of crap. I sailed a Hobie 16 for the past two summers in north
carolina dn you didn't.
The dictionary, Hobie website and even the chapman's terms says I'm right.
Let us know when you ever sail a Cat of ANY kind!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

You wouldn't know, since it takes one to know one.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled"

A real sailor? You mean YOU'RE a real sailor???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I've never heard anyone on a multihull say this. I have heard it from
mono sailors. From multihullers I hear, "I was going along, flying the
port hull, and we a gust hit and we capsized."

I see.
Are you saying multihull sailors can't speak properly?
Do they all just capsaize in gusts - s'funny the only problem I can
really remember on Hobies was a nasty tendency to pitchpole when really
flying -but then again that might faulty memory.

Cheers

Don't they have a command of the english language

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Donal wrote:


"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).


I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on

one

hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use

the

term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of

sailing

a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

No? How about "She heeled over so far that I almost lost control and
capsized". Sailors who have been there would immediately empathize.


"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.


The inability to use language precisely is not something to be
cherished. Why not reduce it to a gutteral " It was WOW man and I mean
WOW!" and then we will all know what you are talking about...


Cheers

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

There are lots of them in resorts I think...


Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In a pig's eye you sailed a hobie 16. Prove it.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of

sailing

a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

What a load of crap. I sailed a Hobie 16 for the past two summers in north
carolina dn you didn't.
The dictionary, Hobie website and even the chapman's terms says I'm right.
Let us know when you ever sail a Cat of ANY kind!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

Is that a "turbo" (what an awful name) version you are talking about?

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In a pig's eye you sailed a hobie 16. Prove it.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use the
term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of

sailing

a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

What a load of crap. I sailed a Hobie 16 for the past two summers in north
carolina dn you didn't.
The dictionary, Hobie website and even the chapman's terms says I'm right.
Let us know when you ever sail a Cat of ANY kind!

RB

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

I never said "all." I said multihullers. Perhaps they were drunk?

Hobies flying? no way. they heel.

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I've never heard anyone on a multihull say this. I have heard it from
mono sailors. From multihullers I hear, "I was going along, flying the
port hull, and we a gust hit and we capsized."

I see.
Are you saying multihull sailors can't speak properly?
Do they all just capsaize in gusts - s'funny the only problem I can
really remember on Hobies was a nasty tendency to pitchpole when really
flying -but then again that might faulty memory.

Cheers

Don't they have a command of the english language

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Donal wrote:


"Nav" wrote in message
...


Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with
it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).


I know that the dictionary says that it is heeled when it is sailing on

one

hull. However, I dispute the fact that a real sailor would ever use

the

term "heeled" to describe the excitement that accompanies the act of

sailing

a Hobie 15 on a single hull.

No? How about "She heeled over so far that I almost lost control and
capsized". Sailors who have been there would immediately empathize.


"Heeled" is dull. "A hull" is exciting! They are two completely
different things - to any sailor who has actually experienced them.


The inability to use language precisely is not something to be
cherished. Why not reduce it to a gutteral " It was WOW man and I mean
WOW!" and then we will all know what you are talking about...


Cheers