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Thom Stewart February 9th 04 09:28 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
Nutsy,

You've done it again, haven't you? You've turned a sail discussion into
a stupid word game!

Heel; a dog staying behind his master leg. Heel; the back portion of a
foot
Heel; a person of bad character

Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.
The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of the
sail during sailing.

The common method on a monohull to reduce this action is counter weight
on the keel, hull shape and ballast

This discussion was about efficency of the sailing vessel as the angle
of the mast changed

You screwed that line of discussion! I guess a Ganz says YOU WON AGAIN.

So What???

OT


Bobsprit February 9th 04 09:42 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and the
term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts the
hull clear.
Word game or not, Gayanzy was not correct in his statement. You infer that this
discussion degenerated, but I made a valid supported point and it was Gayanzy
who degenerated. Examine the entire thread.

RB

Bobsprit February 9th 04 09:44 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
You screwed that line of discussion! I guess a Ganz says YOU WON AGAIN.


Yes, I did. But our discussion was basically ended. We were only arguing heel
by design vs. heeling as an "evil" which had run it's course.

RB

Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 10:39 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
No. You're a LIAR AND A THIEF. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and

the
term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts

the
hull clear.
Word game or not, Gayanzy was not correct in his statement. You infer that

this
discussion degenerated, but I made a valid supported point and it was

Gayanzy
who degenerated. Examine the entire thread.

RB




Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 10:40 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
The only thing that has run its course is your mental ability.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You screwed that line of discussion! I guess a Ganz says YOU WON AGAIN.


Yes, I did. But our discussion was basically ended. We were only arguing

heel
by design vs. heeling as an "evil" which had run it's course.

RB




Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 10:40 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
No ****... or, actually, just ****.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
he can read, but he can't comprehend.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
The ability to read.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
What do you expect from an internet sailor?

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Lean is not tip over dufus.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that Scotty and Ganzy think that Catamarans with a hull

in
the
air
aren't heeling, but a simple search reveals.....


http://www.jworld-sailing.com/sailing-terms.htm

Heel: The lean of the boat under sail

And more...

From Websters:
Heel: : a tilt (as of a boat) to one side; also : the extent of

such
a
tilt









Jeff Morris February 9th 04 11:29 PM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of the
sail during sailing.


The "effective height" may be reduced, but is the actual height reduced?

The Port Mayaca bridge on the St. Lucie Canal (at Lake Okeechobee) has 49 foot
clearance. Enterprising locals provide a boat heeling service, using plastic
oil drums on deck, which are filled with water. Will this work with a
catamaran?

-jeff



Donal February 10th 04 12:15 AM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and

the
term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts

the
hull clear.


Bob, give it up!

I've sailed a Hobie 15 for about a mile on one hull. I never thought of it
as "heeled".

"Heeled" refers to the stable condition of a monohull in a stiff breeze.

I would never describe travelling at 30kts+ - on a Hobie 15, on one hull, as
"heeled".

Word game or not, Gayanzy was not correct in his statement. You infer that

this
discussion degenerated, but I made a valid supported point and it was

Gayanzy
who degenerated. Examine the entire thread.


I can't be bothered. You're talking nonsense, as usual!


Regards


Donal
--




Scott Vernon February 10th 04 12:20 AM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 
You have your head so far up bobs' ass you're starting to sound like him.

SV

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:28:20 -0800 (PST), (Thom Stewart)

wrote:


The mast rotates from the vertical, reducing the effective height of the
sail during sailing.


Really? In all cases?

The common method on a monohull to reduce this action is counter weight
on the keel, hull shape and ballast


The counterweight and ballast is used to CONTROL the amount of heel, not

to try
and eliminate heel entirely. Does reducing the effective height of the

sail
always result in slower boat speed?

BB



Nav February 10th 04 12:31 AM

Basic Sailing Terms for the Weak Minded
 


Donal wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Actually in sailing it is a term used by sailors to discribe the action
of the rotation of the hull of a boat; usually caused by the wind on
the sail that forces the lee side gunnel down toward the water surface.

When a hull is flying, the vessel becomes a counterbalanced monohull and


the

term "heeling" continues to be correct. The degree of heel is what lifts


the

hull clear.



Bob, give it up!

I've sailed a Hobie 15 for about a mile on one hull. I never thought of it
as "heeled".

"Heeled" refers to the stable condition of a monohull in a stiff breeze.

I would never describe travelling at 30kts+ - on a Hobie 15, on one hull, as
"heeled".




Heeled only means tilted and would include listing. The catamaran _is_
heeled -it may even lift a hull out if heeled far enough! Live with it
-he's right (or look it up yourself in the OED).

Don't be sophist.

Cheers



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