As I said, I only read Safire after the fact - I really did think your entire
post was regarding his column, though it didn't make much sense.

I'm curious how this thread will play out (the real thread, not this NG
thread!) - If GWB was playing a game by avoiding the words "imminent threat,"
I'm not sure the public will buy it. If you took a poll today, you'd probably
find the 80% of the voters "think" he said it.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 19:58:16 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
said:

So, you did exactly what the Dems are saying Bush did - you made it sound
like
you meant one thing while maintaining deniability.

Come now, let's not play dog in the manger. If you actually read the Safire
article, your supposed misunderstanding of the original post was either
absurdly disingenuous or just plain dumb. In either event it's not worth my
playing silly games of sophistry with you.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

It all depends on what "is" is. Deja vu, all over again. Johnson and
the Gulf of Tonkin, Nixon's "Secret Plan to End the War" and "I am not
a crook". Reagan and Iran Contra, Grenada, Bush and Oil Part One,
Clinton and his Johnson, Bush and Oil Part Two. Kerry and ?


On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:02:59 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

As I said, I only read Safire after the fact - I really did think your entire
post was regarding his column, though it didn't make much sense.

I'm curious how this thread will play out (the real thread, not this NG
thread!) - If GWB was playing a game by avoiding the words "imminent threat,"
I'm not sure the public will buy it. If you took a poll today, you'd probably
find the 80% of the voters "think" he said it.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 19:58:16 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
said:

So, you did exactly what the Dems are saying Bush did - you made it sound
like
you meant one thing while maintaining deniability.

Come now, let's not play dog in the manger. If you actually read the Safire
article, your supposed misunderstanding of the original post was either
absurdly disingenuous or just plain dumb. In either event it's not worth my
playing silly games of sophistry with you.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Just like they think that Saddam has something to do with 9/11...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
As I said, I only read Safire after the fact - I really did think your
entire
post was regarding his column, though it didn't make much sense.

I'm curious how this thread will play out (the real thread, not this NG
thread!) - If GWB was playing a game by avoiding the words "imminent
threat,"
I'm not sure the public will buy it. If you took a poll today, you'd
probably
find the 80% of the voters "think" he said it.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 19:58:16 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
said:

So, you did exactly what the Dems are saying Bush did - you made it
sound
like
you meant one thing while maintaining deniability.

Come now, let's not play dog in the manger. If you actually read the
Safire
article, your supposed misunderstanding of the original post was either
absurdly disingenuous or just plain dumb. In either event it's not worth
my
playing silly games of sophistry with you.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Jeff Morris wrote:
I'm curious how this thread will play out (the real thread, not this NG
thread!) - If GWB was playing a game by avoiding the words "imminent threat,"
I'm not sure the public will buy it. If you took a poll today, you'd probably
find the 80% of the voters "think" he said it.

Well, the Bush Administration and it's cheerleaders spent a lot of time
& effort (and a few million dollars, no doubt) convincing most of the
American public that Iraq definitely had 'weapons of mass destruction'
and was doing all it could to hit the US with them, and also that Saddam
Hussein was working closely with Al-Queda.

Both were patently false.

Now their own publicity is coming back to bite them. The question is,
what will the voting citizenry believe come November? Knowing what P.T.
Barnum said, and remembering that Nixon got reelected in 1972, I am
somewhat cynical about what is going to happen to this country. But I
still have some hopes....

Regards