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Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well.
Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18" in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3 computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay. Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will follow my eyes. Why wouldent Capt. Neal have a TV on board? Beside not being able to afford one. Whats wrong with enjoying a flick at anchor or the dock, or underway for that matter? Perhaps if you lubbers spent a little more time aboard, It would not seem "So Special" of a time. You would not have to SAVOR and relish it like its something holy. I like modern conviences and entertainment onboard my boat. And since I live on my boat I also have a washer dryer, microwave, 4 burner stove , oven, deep freeze, frig, stereo, blender, crock pot, toaster, ect..... and most thing you will find in any home. And none of it goes flying about when I sail. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well. Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18" in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3 computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay. Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will follow my eyes. Would it be cheaper to park that boat in a trailer park? You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! snip Regards Donal -- |
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Joe,
Pipe down a minute....noone was referring to liveaboards....Cruisers = have houses with tv...why go to the boat to watch the tube, for Paete's = sake? You might as well stay home. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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tells the story of one of the Macinaw (sp?) race boats that used some sort of projector to show porn on their mainsail:) =20 And here I thought that was urban legend all these years.....I've heard = that story several times, too.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
... There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier. As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my electronic entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers fit in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than my tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it up again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300 CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had. I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays. -jeff |
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Whats wrong with enjoying a flick at anchor or the dock, or underway
for that matter? There's nothing wrong with it and today's modern systems and flat screen sets make it easy and save for any boat. A Island packet 40 or Caliber 35 or PS 37 can carry a small TV/DVD anywhere without compromising a thing. A flush mounted set and player isn't going to be effected in bad weather...though you might get sick trying to watch. It's your boat and you can have your own rules. Don't listen to Katy or Dumbco's 1965 hippyesque ideals about what THEY think constitutes proper sailing. It's your boat. Enjoy it! RB |
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As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g
Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! Jeff, this moron is clearly a troll. Or perhaps he thinks it's 1975. RB |
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I probably don't spend as much time "aboard" as you, but the last time I was
"underway', it was for just over 6 days, none of it coastal, and I recall that there didn't seem to be much time for leisure activities like watching TV, and, more importantly, the conversation was probably as interesting as any movie. I believe that when you have a situation, for whatever reason, where you can't have an intelligent /interesting conversation with your shipmate(s) then you might REALLY need a TV to while away the idle hours.Or to keep the kids occupied. Just my 2$. John Cairns "Joe" wrote in message om... Whats wrong with enjoying a flick at anchor or the dock, or underway for that matter? Perhaps if you lubbers spent a little more time aboard, It would not seem "So Special" of a time. You would not have to SAVOR and relish it like its something holy. I like modern conviences and entertainment onboard my boat. And since Joe MSV RedCloud |
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:09:31 -0500, "katysails"
wrote: tells the story of one of the Macinaw (sp?) race boats that used some sort of projector to show porn on their mainsail:) And here I thought that was urban legend all these years.....I've heard that story several times, too.... My friend has done 23 of the Macinaws. I can ask him about the particulars...he would probably know more of the details, but it is a good story:) Kind of tame compared to the Hobie regattas they have around he) Now those people know how to have fun at a party:) |
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Donal wrote: "Joe" wrote in message om... Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well. Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18" in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3 computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay. Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will follow my eyes. Would it be cheaper to park that boat in a trailer park? You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! Or buy a Bolger box design and save on the bricks... Cheers |
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"Nav" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! Or buy a Bolger box design and save on the bricks... Where *is* Taddy? Regards Donal -- |
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"Nav" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! Or buy a Bolger box design and save on the bricks... Where *is* Taddy? Scratching some troglodyte doggrel? Cheers |
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Where *is* Taddy? On walkabout. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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I probably don't spend as much time "aboard" as you, but the last time I was
"underway', it was for just over 6 days, none of it coastal, and I recall that there didn't seem to be much time for leisure activities like watching TV, John, your comment is not worth one cent. I guess carrying books on board is also bad, since you had all that "interesting" discourse?! Leave the music home as well, right? The TV is NOT for watching underway or to displace interesting conversation. People are soooo thick that they believe the presence of a TV is commanding and they must watch. No, john. The TV can be used at the END of a passage or even rarely. Last summer we used our TV/DVD mostly late at night at anchor and a few times in the slip. It's pretty much for rare occasions, but when the time is right it can be a welcome diversion to slip on a favorite film. If you hate books, movies and music you can certainly make the choice to leave it all home. Of course of all these, the books present the greatest stowage and flying object dangers. A electronic book reader is the best way to go and a good one won't hurt the eyes. RB |
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:53:31 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote: "Remco Moedt" wrote in message .. . There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier. As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my electronic entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers fit in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than my tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it up again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300 CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had. I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays. Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing machine/deepfreezer and stuff... Cheers! Remco |
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I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their
house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays. Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing machine/deepfreezer and stuff... No you weren't. You already spoke of the added weight of a TV and vid system before you were put in your place. RB |
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Don't get me started on a deep freezer. Ooops, I guess you did.
Since we bought out catamaran for long term cruising, my wife insisted on having a large deep freeze. I admit it was nice to be able to reach in and pull out a steak wherever we were, but its a pain being tied to a 90 Amp-hour per day draw. If I had to do one thing over, it would be to have two separate small systems for the fridge and freezer, rather than one large one. -- -jeff www.sv-loki.com "The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup at the deli." "Remco Moedt" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:53:31 -0500, "Jeff Morris" wrote: "Remco Moedt" wrote in message .. . There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier. As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my electronic entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers fit in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than my tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it up again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300 CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had. I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays. Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing machine/deepfreezer and stuff... Cheers! Remco |
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If it's not for watching underway, then you're in the gravy... that's
all you do is watch tv... at the dock of course. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I probably don't spend as much time "aboard" as you, but the last time I was "underway', it was for just over 6 days, none of it coastal, and I recall that there didn't seem to be much time for leisure activities like watching TV, John, your comment is not worth one cent. I guess carrying books on board is also bad, since you had all that "interesting" discourse?! Leave the music home as well, right? The TV is NOT for watching underway or to displace interesting conversation. People are soooo thick that they believe the presence of a TV is commanding and they must watch. No, john. The TV can be used at the END of a passage or even rarely. Last summer we used our TV/DVD mostly late at night at anchor and a few times in the slip. It's pretty much for rare occasions, but when the time is right it can be a welcome diversion to slip on a favorite film. If you hate books, movies and music you can certainly make the choice to leave it all home. Of course of all these, the books present the greatest stowage and flying object dangers. A electronic book reader is the best way to go and a good one won't hurt the eyes. RB |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well. Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18" in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3 computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay. Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will follow my eyes. Would it be cheaper to park that boat in a trailer park? Is that were you park your cheaply fitted and buildt Bent- a-toe? At least most trailers have floorboards that fit properly. You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! I know this is how you teach your kids to sail, but I rather have my boat in the water. I can see you now, your bentatoe on a foundation of bricks (just propped up would puncture your flimsy hull) yelling at your boy in the fog. Quick toss that potatoe and listen for the splash boy. Running down below and taking physic bearings with no external imput at all. Your a joke Lanod! Joe MSV RedCloud snip Regards Donal -- |
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Don't get me started on a deep freezer. Ooops, I guess you did. Since we bought out catamaran for long term cruising, my wife insisted on having a large deep freeze. I admit it was nice to be able to reach in and pull out a steak wherever we were, And keep in mind many countries will not let you bring in any meat or produce. Whats better is to reach in the sea and fill your freezer. But Surf & Turf is nice. but its a pain being tied to a 90 Amp-hour per day draw. Get a gen set. I can run 3 hours a day and keep the freezer frozen. If I had to do one thing over, it would be to have two separate small systems for the fridge and freezer, rather than one large one. Thats our set up, A small frig w freezer comp and a 8 cubic foot freezer. Only pain in the arse is it has a big hatch top on the galley counter to access it. And with limited counter space it usually involves shuffeling stuff to get to it. Joe MSV RedCloud -- -jeff www.sv-loki.com "The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup at the deli." "Remco Moedt" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:53:31 -0500, "Jeff Morris" wrote: "Remco Moedt" wrote in message .. . There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier. As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my electronic entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers fit in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than my tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it up again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300 CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had. I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays. Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing machine/deepfreezer and stuff... Cheers! Remco |
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"Joe" wrote in message m... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well. Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18" in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3 computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay. Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will follow my eyes. Would it be cheaper to park that boat in a trailer park? Is that were you park your cheaply fitted and buildt Bent- a-toe? At least most trailers have floorboards that fit properly. My floorboards fit correctly. Come on! Admit it ... you would find social interaction much easier in the trailer park, wouldn't you? You would probably find that you could become friends with the neighbours. You've already admitted that people in the marina move their boats once they meet you( and your incompetent boat handling skills). Wouldn't you be much happier living in a tolerant community, where bashing into your neighbour's vehicle would be seen as normal behaviour? You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! I know this is how you teach your kids to sail, but I rather have my boat in the water. I can see you now, your bentatoe on a foundation of bricks Tsk, tsk. They are *red* bricks. The colour is very important. In future, think of your own neck when you use the word brick. That way, you won't forget the colour, will you? (just propped up would puncture your flimsy hull) yelling at your boy in the fog. Quick toss that potatoe and listen for the splash boy. You don't read well, do you? Ah well, they say that "opposites attract", don't they? I've got Radar! Running down below and taking physic bearings with no external imput at all. Your a joke Lanod! Thanks! BTW, you are an absolute menace. You are a self-confessed, dangerous, breaker of the CollRegs. Furthermore, you are too stupid to understand simple words like "sight" and "hearing". Regards Donal -- |
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"Joe" wrote in message m... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well. Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18" in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3 computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay. Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will follow my eyes. Would it be cheaper to park that boat in a trailer park? Is that were you park your cheaply fitted and buildt Bent- a-toe? At least most trailers have floorboards that fit properly. My floorboards fit correctly. NO they do not, And your thin hull flexes to much. Come on! Admit it ... you would find social interaction much easier in the trailer park, wouldn't you? Social interaction anywere is not a problem ****** boy. Anytime you make it to Houston come by and sail a spell. You would probably find that you could become friends with the neighbours. You've already admitted that people in the marina move their boats once they meet you( and your incompetent boat handling skills). Lanod, My marina has a ship yard and most boat are just passing thru. I know you physic yachtmasters can control a linkage failure with your mystic skills, but us poor Texans we just have to learn from our mistakes. Wouldn't you be much happier living in a tolerant community, where bashing into your neighbour's vehicle would be seen as normal behaviour? No I have never had a desire to move to England or Mexico. You could prop it up on some nice red bricks!! I know this is how you teach your kids to sail, but I rather have my boat in the water. I can see you now, your bentatoe on a foundation of bricks Tsk, tsk. They are *red* bricks. The colour is very important. Your mighty proud of the color of your snobbish ****** neck eh bloke. (just propped up would puncture your flimsy hull) yelling at your boy in the fog. Quick toss that potatoe and listen for the splash boy. You don't read well, do you? Ah well, they say that "opposites attract", don't they? I've got Radar! Yes, but you lack the skill to use it properly and effectly. You would think it is safer and wiser to stare into dense fog. You will never have the guts, grit, or skill to become a United States Merchant Marine Master. You would be laughed off a boat while you were a OS. You would never advance to an AB. You just do not have it in you Donal. Dont feel bad, some just are not cut out to lead. Running down below and taking physic bearings with no external imput at all. Your a joke Lanod! Thanks! BTW, you are an absolute menace. These words coming from a coward like you means nothing. You are a self-confessed, dangerous, breaker of the CollRegs. Your a coward and a liar. Your lower than whale ****. Furthermore, you are too stupid to understand simple words like "sight" and "hearing". Sounds kind of Slanderious Donal. Perhaps I should show this to my lawyers and prove once and for all who is correct. For over a month now you have shown that you are a book sailor. Your acting like a stupid LTJG just out of boot camp. You think the book is everything because that is all you have ever done. You have never made a mistake, because you have never had the chance. Your a mouse of a man and a chapmans sailor on a production boat at the best. Regards Donal- The pompus ass. -- Up Yours Joe MSV RedCloud |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Donal" wrote in message ... Furthermore, you are too stupid to understand simple words like "sight" and "hearing". Sounds kind of Slanderious Donal. Perhaps I should show this to my lawyers and prove once and for all who is correct. For over a month now you have shown that you are a book sailor. Your acting like a stupid LTJG just out of boot camp. You think the book is everything because that is all you have ever done. You have never made a mistake, because you have never had the chance. Your a mouse of a man and a chapmans sailor on a production boat at the best. Regards Donal- The pompus ass. -- Up Yours Oh, Joe! Thank you. That's the biggest compliment that I've ever received. I've always wanted to be able to look down my nose at people. However, I've never found anyone who was low enough. So, when you called me "pompus", I knew that I had found sombody who was truly beneath me. Thank you, Joe! Regards Donal -- The Pompus ass. |
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