Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

....ain't that right Jaxxie?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!


CM

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Worse than a Mac 26 X ?


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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...ain't that right Jaxxie?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!


CM

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Irwin 30 on a trailer?


Oz1 scribbled thusly:



We have an infestation of them here, two within a mile of my place.
God they look ugly on a trailer


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

don't know. not sure I have ever seen one. Did St Tom to NYC non-stop on a 52
foot such last spring but don't know much about how strong that boat was as we
never saw winds much about 40 knots, and even that wasn't all that many hours.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

How long did it take? Much motoring?

SV

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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don't know. not sure I have ever seen one. Did St Tom to NYC non-stop on
a 52
foot such last spring but don't know much about how strong that boat was
as we
never saw winds much about 40 knots, and even that wasn't all that many
hours.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

12 days, about 70 hours of motoring, including all that through NY Harbor.

How long did it take? Much motoring?

SV

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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don't know. not sure I have ever seen one. Did St Tom to NYC non-stop on
a 52
foot such last spring but don't know much about how strong that boat was
as we
never saw winds much about 40 knots, and even that wasn't all that many
hours.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some Lancers.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Its hard to imagine that an Irwin is better than any boat. The one that I
chartered for a season was falling apart, quite literally. It was 8 years old.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some Lancers.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

That's because Neal worked at the Irwin factory. A Coronado was a big =
quality leap for him.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

...ain't that right Jaxxie?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!

Come on, Mooron, isn't this a little beneath you? I mean, where is
your self respect? Making fun of Irwin owners is too much like
shooting the pigeons in the park.

DSK

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Its hard to imagine that an Irwin is better than any boat. The one that I
chartered for a season was falling apart, quite literally.

I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Bob is soooooo jealous of my boat , it drives him nuts.

Scotty

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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Its hard to imagine that an Irwin is better than any boat. The one that I
chartered for a season was falling apart, quite literally. It was 8 years
old.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some
Lancers.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Hey, I was going to say that.
"katysails" wrote in message
...
That's because Neal worked at the Irwin factory. A Coronado was a big
quality leap for him.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some Lancers.

RB

yeaaaahhhh.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

jeffies, you have been on what three boats in your life? A Coronado, a
Hinckley and the Staten Island ferry?

Its hard to imagine that an Irwin is better than any boat. The one that I
chartered for a season was falling apart, quite literally. It was 8 years
old.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some Lancers.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became of
Bucaneer.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

define 'better'


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some
Lancers.

RB

yeaaaahhhh.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

"****Head" wrote

The only thing worse is being outsailed by the poor fool who
bought it.


maybe if you took some lessons.......

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

You ever sail one jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the
US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became
of
Bucaneer.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

You ever sail one jaxy?


Scotty, no one doubts that your boat can move. But the fact, and I do think you
know this, is that the Siedlemann line is known for poor quality with some
boats being lemons. I've looked at the Sailnet boards and some of the owners
operate on the "I've got a good one" theme. Not exactly the level of better
O'Days and even Macs.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Not knowing the meaning of "better" is how you ended up with a Siedlemann.



Dang. True. But the other side is that Scotty was warned off by a few. He just
wanted 30 feet in the same way Gayanzy wants 8 inches.
A good friend of mine wanted a 33-35 footer, but when she saw how far the money
would go, she set her sights on a 29-30 footer with about 20K to spend.
I think Scotty spent 2 or 3K on his boat and he was taken. When it comes to
boats One man's garbage is...another man's garbage. Too bad Scotty has yet to
learn this.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

I know boatyards that will not haul a Mac (or old wooden boats for that
matter), and don't like to haul a Siedleman, but will haul most anything else.
I specifically asked about a Siedleman because I knew of two available (one
abandoned in a yard, the other a repo). The Siedlemans seemed to look to be
okay sailors, but I understand they can have structural issues when on jack
stands.

is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some
Lancers.

RB

yeaaaahhhh.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Been aborad both Siedlemans and a US Yacht. Never sailed any. Have seen US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors. The
Siedlemans I hav seen sailing (including your own) seemed to sail decently.



You ever sail one jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the
US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became
of
Bucaneer.

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

I knew of two available (one
abandoned in a yard, the other a repo)


If you're still over at Styvesant there's a larger one (not sure if it's over
33 feet) available cheap. My friend took a look and was warned away by anyone
and everyone. The reputation of these boats, along with Mac and US Yachts,
Bucaneer...all among the worst of the worst.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Never sailed any. Have seen US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors.


There's US Yachts 30 at my club. Not terrible looking, but in bad shape. It
actually sails okay. I tried to sell it a year ago for 2K or less. No takers.
If Scotty wanted a boat to fix up, he should have started with an old Pearson,
Alberg or even a Catalina. At least he would have had something in the
end...and some dignity.

RB

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

Seidlemans are not on my list.

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the Siedleman is.
Looked at an Ingrid recently (fine, fine hull and rigging, 1940's
farmhouse/kitchen type interior that could not be remedied without total
removal), though I think I prefer something smaller than an Ingrid.

I knew of two available (one
abandoned in a yard, the other a repo)


If you're still over at Styvesant there's a larger one (not sure if it's over
33 feet) available cheap. My friend took a look and was warned away by anyone
and everyone. The reputation of these boats, along with Mac and US Yachts,
Bucaneer...all among the worst of the worst.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

you're jealous too?


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:04:00 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

define 'better'



Not knowing the meaning of "better" is how you ended up with a Siedlemann.

BB

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some
Lancers.

RB

yeaaaahhhh.

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

and where do I Motor, jaxy?


Everywhere.


RB

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

When I saw you sailing, it was east of Annapolis and a little south of the
bridge.

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the Siedleman
is.

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the Siedleman
is.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote


At least he would have had something in the
end...


sounds like one of your dates.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

well, there ya go. I bought the boat to sail. Mostly for 3~7 day cruises on
the Chessy.

I didn't buy it to sit in a slip and watch TV.,or bolt on gadgets and
frills so I could impress people.

Scotty, a true sailor.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Been aborad both Siedlemans and a US Yacht. Never sailed any. Have seen
US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors.
The
Siedlemans I hav seen sailing (including your own) seemed to sail
decently.

Scotty's tub.. the worst case of jealousy by boobshit yet
 

daysailor!

"Bobsprit" wrote


Gaysailor!


RB

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

Which is?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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When I saw you sailing, it was east of Annapolis and a little south of the
bridge.

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the
Siedleman
is.

Scotty's tub.. the worst case of jealousy by boobshit yet
 

daysailor!

"Bobsprit" wrote

Scotty's tub.. the worst case of jealousy by boobshit yet
 

OK, you're both. You win!!!!!!!!!!!


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
daysailor!

"Bobsprit" wrote


Gaysailor!


RB

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

huh? you don't know the name water you were sailing east of Annapolis and
south of the bridge?

Which is?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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When I saw you sailing, it was east of Annapolis and a little south of the
bridge.

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the
Siedleman
is.

Scotty's tub.. the wost case of boobshit jealousy on record!
 

I do. Do you?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
huh? you don't know the name water you were sailing east of Annapolis and
south of the bridge?

Which is?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
When I saw you sailing, it was east of Annapolis and a little south of
the
bridge.

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the
Siedleman
is.

Scotty's tub.. the wost case of boobshit jealousy on record!
 

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:35:41 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

I do. Do you?

You need to phrase the question as an obscure and irrelevant
mathematical problem. That way, you will get a pointless essay answer
to your question. It won't answer your question, but at least it will
be an answer:)


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
huh? you don't know the name water you were sailing east of Annapolis and
south of the bridge?

Which is?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
When I saw you sailing, it was east of Annapolis and a little south of
the
bridge.

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the
Siedleman
is.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

wrote


Well, it's a good thing I didn't buy my hunter
with the idea of impressing anybody.

BobsBoy