Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Not knowing the meaning of "better" is how you ended up with a Siedlemann.



Dang. True. But the other side is that Scotty was warned off by a few. He just
wanted 30 feet in the same way Gayanzy wants 8 inches.
A good friend of mine wanted a 33-35 footer, but when she saw how far the money
would go, she set her sights on a 29-30 footer with about 20K to spend.
I think Scotty spent 2 or 3K on his boat and he was taken. When it comes to
boats One man's garbage is...another man's garbage. Too bad Scotty has yet to
learn this.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

I know boatyards that will not haul a Mac (or old wooden boats for that
matter), and don't like to haul a Siedleman, but will haul most anything else.
I specifically asked about a Siedleman because I knew of two available (one
abandoned in a yard, the other a repo). The Siedlemans seemed to look to be
okay sailors, but I understand they can have structural issues when on jack
stands.

is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some
Lancers.

RB

yeaaaahhhh.

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Been aborad both Siedlemans and a US Yacht. Never sailed any. Have seen US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors. The
Siedlemans I hav seen sailing (including your own) seemed to sail decently.



You ever sail one jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I've been aboard two Siedlemanns. They are worse, perhaps as bad as the
US
Yachts. The only thing worse than seeing one is meeting the poor fool who
bought it.

RB

Siedlemanns were (not many left) pretty bad, but US Yachts is what became
of
Bucaneer.

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

I knew of two available (one
abandoned in a yard, the other a repo)


If you're still over at Styvesant there's a larger one (not sure if it's over
33 feet) available cheap. My friend took a look and was warned away by anyone
and everyone. The reputation of these boats, along with Mac and US Yachts,
Bucaneer...all among the worst of the worst.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

Never sailed any. Have seen US
Yachts sail and they don't sail any better than their Bucaneer ancestors.


There's US Yachts 30 at my club. Not terrible looking, but in bad shape. It
actually sails okay. I tried to sell it a year ago for 2K or less. No takers.
If Scotty wanted a boat to fix up, he should have started with an old Pearson,
Alberg or even a Catalina. At least he would have had something in the
end...and some dignity.

RB

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

Seidlemans are not on my list.

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the Siedleman is.
Looked at an Ingrid recently (fine, fine hull and rigging, 1940's
farmhouse/kitchen type interior that could not be remedied without total
removal), though I think I prefer something smaller than an Ingrid.

I knew of two available (one
abandoned in a yard, the other a repo)


If you're still over at Styvesant there's a larger one (not sure if it's over
33 feet) available cheap. My friend took a look and was warned away by anyone
and everyone. The reputation of these boats, along with Mac and US Yachts,
Bucaneer...all among the worst of the worst.

RB

Irwin 30... the worst vessel made!
 

you're jealous too?


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:04:00 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

define 'better'



Not knowing the meaning of "better" is how you ended up with a Siedlemann.

BB

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
An irwin is still better than a Siedleman or Mac and probably some
Lancers.

RB

yeaaaahhhh.

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

and where do I Motor, jaxy?


Everywhere.


RB

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

When I saw you sailing, it was east of Annapolis and a little south of the
bridge.

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the Siedleman
is.

Scotty's tub.. the worst vessel made!
 

and where do I sail, jaxy?

"JAXAshby" wrote

My next boat will be less a LIS/Chesey lite winds boat than the Siedleman
is.