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yep... and Bush's State of the Union speech was chock full of the usual
bs... now he's calling it... WMD programs that they discovered paperwork
about...

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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.



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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wmd/

The program aired the other night, Kay started with the assertion that there
were WMD, still couldn't find any. Funny watching clips of Colin Powell
saying that the Iraqis had 100's of tons of chemical and biological agents.
Old news really, don't think many people care, even those folks who lost
relatives in the war. You should watch the program if you get a chance.
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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.



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Too bad you didn't listen to this mornings interview on NPR.

David Kay was very clear that the programs and facilities were to
produce WMD were full operational right up to the start of the war.
They were still not clear that any were assembled. But, he also Ripped
the US Military for not using enough force to stop the looters. They
found facilities and where records had been, but computers were damaged
or stolen and record systems destroyed. They also located a lot of
material with no other purpose for existing.

Matt Colie


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So now the claim is going to be that there were in fact WMDs, but
due to the incompetence of the US Military, they were all stolen?
I don't think that's going to fly, at least not if Bushy still wants the
military vote.

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Too bad you didn't listen to this mornings interview on NPR.

David Kay was very clear that the programs and facilities were to
produce WMD were full operational right up to the start of the war.
They were still not clear that any were assembled. But, he also Ripped
the US Military for not using enough force to stop the looters. They
found facilities and where records had been, but computers were damaged
or stolen and record systems destroyed. They also located a lot of
material with no other purpose for existing.

Matt Colie


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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

Then how did Chemical Ali get his name?





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I think this quote says a lot...

"There had been widespread looting April and May; material had disappeared.
It's a huge country. It's not possible to easily move around. In fact, I
actually had greater freedom of movement and ease in a surprising sort of
way, as limited as it was, as a U.N. inspector."

So, the invasion actually made things worse for the inspectors.

Bushy sure did a bang up job.

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Too bad you didn't listen to this mornings interview on NPR.

David Kay was very clear that the programs and facilities were to
produce WMD were full operational right up to the start of the war.
They were still not clear that any were assembled. But, he also Ripped
the US Military for not using enough force to stop the looters. They
found facilities and where records had been, but computers were damaged
or stolen and record systems destroyed. They also located a lot of
material with no other purpose for existing.

Matt Colie


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Dimwit, that's from the *first* gulf war.... the 80s are
so over.

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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

Then how did Chemical Ali get his name?





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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:41:44 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
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Dimwit, that's from the *first* gulf war.... the 80s are
so over.

How stupid are you? No chemical weapons were used during the first
Gulf War.


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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

Then how did Chemical Ali get his name?



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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ma/3261705.stm
Like many programs on PBS, this one originated in the UK, if I'm not
mistaken, this is the program that aired on PBS the other night.
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scribbled thusly:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wmd/

The program aired the other night, Kay started with the assertion that
there
were WMD, still couldn't find any. Funny watching clips of Colin Powell
saying that the Iraqis had 100's of tons of chemical and biological
agents.
Old news really, don't think many people care, even those folks who lost
relatives in the war. You should watch the program if you get a chance.
John Cairns

Yep, That was recorded a while back wasn't it?
We don't get Frontline here


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And, there weren't any before, during, or after the second war.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:41:44 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
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Dimwit, that's from the *first* gulf war.... the 80s are
so over.

How stupid are you? No chemical weapons were used during the first
Gulf War.


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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

Then how did Chemical Ali get his name?



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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:39:00 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:10:20 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:32:21 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

Then how did Chemical Ali get his name?

You really are nore dense than Ironbark aren't you?


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...raq/majeed.htm


Al Majid is called Chemical Ali because he decided the best way to
solve the Kurdish rebellion was to gas them. He orchestrated the
gassing of Kurdish villages carried out by low-flying helicopters with
express orders to kill every living thing in the area, including
plants and wildlife. This was all part of Operation Anfal, which saw
the widespread use of chemical weapons against the Kurds in northern
Iraq. International observers estimate Iraqi forces killed 50,000 to
100,000 people during the 1988 campaign known as "Anfal" which means
"the spoils."

In March 1988, in the town of Halabja, 5,000 Kurds died writhing in
agony and 10,000 were seriously affected when Iraqi jets dropped
chemical bombs on the town. Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons attack
on Halabja, a predominantly Kurdish city in northeastern Iraq. On
March 16, 1988, an estimated 5,000 civilians were killed and 10,000
injured when Iraqi air forces bombarded Halabja with mustard and other
poison gases. Over a decade after the massacre, the people of Halabja
still suffer from very high rates of serious diseases such as cancer,
neurological disorders, birth defects and miscarriages. Saddam
Hussein's chemical weapons attack on Halabja was not an isolated
incident. It was part of a systematic campaign ordered by Saddam
Hussein and led by his cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid.




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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html
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Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.



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OzOne wrote in message ...

Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

We have the best government money can buy.

Saddam sponsored suicide bombers who killed 100s of Israelis.

Bin Laden sponsored terrorists who killed 1000s of Americans.

Saddam is in prison for his "crimes". Bin Laden is still at large leading a
major terrorist organization.

Does that suggest anything about priorities in Washington??

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Last I checked 1988 was in the 80s. That's 16 years ago.
Back to grade school Horass. This time pay attention in
math class.

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:39:00 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:10:20 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:32:21 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

Then how did Chemical Ali get his name?

You really are nore dense than Ironbark aren't you?


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...raq/majeed.htm


Al Majid is called Chemical Ali because he decided the best way to
solve the Kurdish rebellion was to gas them. He orchestrated the
gassing of Kurdish villages carried out by low-flying helicopters with
express orders to kill every living thing in the area, including
plants and wildlife. This was all part of Operation Anfal, which saw
the widespread use of chemical weapons against the Kurds in northern
Iraq. International observers estimate Iraqi forces killed 50,000 to
100,000 people during the 1988 campaign known as "Anfal" which means
"the spoils."

In March 1988, in the town of Halabja, 5,000 Kurds died writhing in
agony and 10,000 were seriously affected when Iraqi jets dropped
chemical bombs on the town. Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons attack
on Halabja, a predominantly Kurdish city in northeastern Iraq. On
March 16, 1988, an estimated 5,000 civilians were killed and 10,000
injured when Iraqi air forces bombarded Halabja with mustard and other
poison gases. Over a decade after the massacre, the people of Halabja
still suffer from very high rates of serious diseases such as cancer,
neurological disorders, birth defects and miscarriages. Saddam
Hussein's chemical weapons attack on Halabja was not an isolated
incident. It was part of a systematic campaign ordered by Saddam
Hussein and led by his cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid.




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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:37:43 +1100, OzOne said:

Says there never were any WMD after the Gulf war.

He believes taht they never existed after they were destroyed at the
end of the Gulf war

And you are unable to see a difference between his statement and your
characterization of it? I think the NY Times may have a job for you.

BRW I don't have the actual text in front of me, but my recollection is
that
he used the words "disposed of" rather than "destroyed." See any
difference
there?

There is a definite difference. Yessssireeee!

"Destroyed" would mean that he had got rid of them.
"Disposed of" means that he kept them, and had them ready to launch at 45
minutes notice!


Am I right?



Regards


Donal
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:17:49 -0500, "Vito" said:

Saddam is in prison for his "crimes". Bin Laden is still at large
leading a
major terrorist organization.

Does that suggest anything about priorities in Washington??

Nope. But it may indicate Bin Laden is better at hide and seek.
Dave


Which of them was a greater threat to the security of the USA?

A foreigner would really like to know what domestic thinking is on the
subject.


Regards


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"Donal" wrote in message

| A foreigner would really like to know what domestic thinking is on the
| subject.

Thinking is outlawed under Orange Alert Donal..... their only option is to
blindly obey!

CM

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:42:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Last I checked 1988 was in the 80s. That's 16 years ago.
Back to grade school Horass. This time pay attention in
math class.


You said there was no WMDs after the first Gulf War. I just proved
you to be an idiot.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...raq/majeed.htm





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"Donal" wrote:

"Destroyed" would mean that he had got rid of them.
"Disposed of" means that he kept them, and had them ready to launch at 45
minutes notice!


Am I right?

Nope, Saddam probably hid them in Syria, among other places.

LP

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:46:12 +1100, OzOne1 wrote this crap:


Nope, the Weapons inspectors "disposed of " the weapons at the end of
the Gulf war by incineration and explosion. Seems they were
"destroyed"

The weapons inspectors disposed of the weapons? Then why are there no
records, dumbass?




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Not likely. There's no evidence to suggest it.

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"Donal" wrote:

"Destroyed" would mean that he had got rid of them.
"Disposed of" means that he kept them, and had them ready to launch at
45
minutes notice!


Am I right?

Nope, Saddam probably hid them in Syria, among other places.

LP

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There are records, but you're still living in the wrong century...
the 80s are over dimwit.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:46:12 +1100, OzOne1 wrote this crap:


Nope, the Weapons inspectors "disposed of " the weapons at the end of
the Gulf war by incineration and explosion. Seems they were
"destroyed"

The weapons inspectors disposed of the weapons? Then why are there no
records, dumbass?




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No. You just proved yourself to be a dimwit. The issue
is that we invaded a country for because of his stockpiling
and imminent threat of using his WMDs. He HAD NONE.

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:42:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Last I checked 1988 was in the 80s. That's 16 years ago.
Back to grade school Horass. This time pay attention in
math class.


You said there was no WMDs after the first Gulf War. I just proved
you to be an idiot.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...raq/majeed.htm





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True, but it's still fun....

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:46:12 +1100, OzOne1 said:

Nope, the Weapons inspectors "disposed of " the weapons at the end of
the Gulf war by incineration and explosion. Seems they were
"destroyed"

I'm tempted to make a remark about your intelligence, but I'll charitably
assume it's a matter of ideological blinders. Fella's stumbling there's no
need to give him a shove.


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Ah... well, you've got me there...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:48:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

No. You just proved yourself to be a dimwit. The issue
is that we invaded a country for because of his stockpiling
and imminent threat of using his WMDs. He HAD NONE.


That's not true. We invaded that country because of it's stockpile of
OIL.

BB


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.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:42:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Last I checked 1988 was in the 80s. That's 16 years ago.
Back to grade school Horass. This time pay attention in
math class.


You said there was no WMDs after the first Gulf War. I just proved
you to be an idiot.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...raq/majeed.htm





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wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:48:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:


No. You just proved yourself to be a dimwit. The issue
is that we invaded a country for because of his stockpiling
and imminent threat of using his WMDs. He HAD NONE.



That's not true. We invaded that country because of it's stockpile of
OIL.

That's right and OIL is uded to make WMD! The case for the defense rests!!!!

Cheers

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True, except in a flame war...

OzOneof3 wrote in message
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On 27 Jan 2004 13:36:15 -0600, Dave scribbled
thusly:

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:46:12 +1100, OzOne1 said:

Nope, the Weapons inspectors "disposed of " the weapons at the end of
the Gulf war by incineration and explosion. Seems they were
"destroyed"

I'm tempted to make a remark about your intelligence, but I'll charitably
assume it's a matter of ideological blinders. Fella's stumbling there's
no
need to give him a shove.


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OK Dave, when you incinerate something would it be safe to say it's
beeen disposed of?

I'll help you here

Phrasal Verb:
dispose of
To attend to; settle: disposed of the problem quickly.
To transfer or part with, as by giving or selling.
To get rid of; throw out.
To kill or destroy

Note the last word!


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No. I'm not willing to rely on the Bush administration to tell me. They've
already lied and mis-applied the intelligence reports that they were given.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:46:29 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Not likely. There's no evidence to suggest it.

IOW, you're willing to rely on those much-maligned intelligence sources to
tell you if Syria or another country got WMDs from Iraq, but not to tell
you
whether Iraq had them in the first place? A minor inconsistency, perhaps?


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Both statements are bs. Bush and co, lied to the American people,
and are now seeking every which way they can to get around the lie.

Bush didn't steal Florida. It was handed to him by his brother and his
cronies. He was elected by the Court.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:48:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

imminent threat of using his WMDs

As Reagan used to say, "there you go again."

The phrase "imminent threat" is a classic case of disinformation. The Dems
keep insisting that Bush claimed Saddam posed an "imminent threat," and
therefore since there was not an "imminent threat" the war was
unjustified.
For a more or less balanced presentation of the facts see
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031103.html.

In like vein, the Dems (or at least their crazy left) keep insisting that
Bush "stole" Florida, whereas extensive post-election analysis by a
non-partisan organization hired by a number of news sources (including
that
extreme right-wing publication the NY Times) show pretty conclusively that
any number of recounts would have yielded the same result. You can check
that in that other radical right-wing paper the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/la-111201recount.story



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I have always, currently, and will always be a Grateful Dead fan,
but I don't rely on them.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:11:20 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

No. I'm not willing to rely on the Bush administration to tell me.
They've
already lied and mis-applied the intelligence reports that they were
given.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:46:29 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Not likely. There's no evidence to suggest it.

IOW, you're willing to rely on those much-maligned intelligence sources
to
tell you if Syria or another country got WMDs from Iraq, but not to
tell
you
whether Iraq had them in the first place? A minor inconsistency,
perhaps?

OK, now that you've made your speech, can you answer the question?

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Sorry, but I think "both statements" is pretty clear. I do like cotton candy
though.

An honest count?? hahaha... ok. Sure. There was nothing honest about the
Florida
situation during the voting. Many, many were disenfranchised by the process.

I know I'm a hoot, but what are you?

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:11:02 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Both statements are bs. Bush and co, lied to the American people,
and are now seeking every which way they can to get around the lie.

Could you try to get your thoughts together enough to articulate what
you're
referring to by the words "both statements"? It's hard to punch cotton
candy.

Bush didn't steal Florida. It was handed to him by his brother and his
cronies. He was elected by the Court.

IOW, yea, even if (as the post-election study showed) an honest count
would
have given Bush the election, Gore was deprived of that honest count so he
and all who voted for him are poor innocent victims wronged by evildoers.

As I've said before, Jonathan, you're a hoot.


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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:48:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

imminent threat of using his WMDs

As Reagan used to say, "there you go again."

The phrase "imminent threat" is a classic case of disinformation. The
Dems
keep insisting that Bush claimed Saddam posed an "imminent threat," and
therefore since there was not an "imminent threat" the war was
unjustified.
For a more or less balanced presentation of the facts see
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031103.html.

In like vein, the Dems (or at least their crazy left) keep insisting
that
Bush "stole" Florida, whereas extensive post-election analysis by a
non-partisan organization hired by a number of news sources (including
that
extreme right-wing publication the NY Times) show pretty conclusively
that
any number of recounts would have yielded the same result. You can
check
that in that other radical right-wing paper the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/la-111201recount.story



Dave
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Dave
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Don't laugh too hard, he has a LOT of company out there.
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thusly:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:06:40 +1100, OzOneof3 said:

Ummm after the war they aren't manufacturing "evidence" to justify
launching an invasion.

Whassamatter, Oz, those black helicopters after you again?

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Bwaaaahahahahahhah!
You really do believe what Bush & Co told you!

Bwaaahahahahahahahaha!
I didn't think anyone was quite that easily lead.


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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:21:23 +1100, OzOn wrote this crap:

Yep, It's so scary when the most powerful country on earth has a Govt
that will falsify and exagerrate in order to invade another country.

What was falsified or exaggerated?





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OzOn wrote:
Yep, It's so scary when the most powerful country on earth has a Govt
that will falsify and exagerrate in order to invade another country.

That's a lie, Oz. We didn't invade Iraq. Iraq invaded Kuwait and we had
the Gulf War. When the war was over and Bush Sr. didn't take out Saddam, I
said out loud, "this will come back to bite us in the ass someday" and my
words rang true. All the proof I need of WMD is Saddam gassing his own
people. Osama's last tape a month ago makes reference to Saddam being on
his side. Maybe you should search google for Osama Bin Laden's exact words.

AND get away with it because to question Govt is apparently
unpatriotic.

Nope, I question all the time. It doesn't matter which side of the
political spectrum they're on...

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OzOn wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:58:05 -0600, "Lady Pilot"
scribbled thusly:


OzOn wrote:

Yep, It's so scary when the most powerful country on earth has a Govt
that will falsify and exagerrate in order to invade another country.

That's a lie, Oz. We didn't invade Iraq.


Oh, my mistake.
I thought that sending a whole ****ing army into another country
against their wishes was called an invasion.

What would you call it.?


A crime against humanity if the other is suing for peace...

Cheers

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:17:50 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:21:23 +1100, OzOn wrote this crap:

Yep, It's so scary when the most powerful country on earth has a Govt
that will falsify and exagerrate in order to invade another country.

What was falsified or exaggerated?

Idiot!
The reports of huge stockpiles of WMD ready for release at any moment,
Nuclear weapons facilities and uranium being shipped in.

No Uranium, No stockpile!

How do you know that was falsified? We haven't found the stockpiles
yet. Have you searched every inch of the desert?




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MC wrote:



What would you call it.?


A crime against humanity if the other is suing for peace...



Do you suppose somebody will try to make a case before the World Court?

Oh silly me, I forgot that US has much the same attitude for that august
body as they do for the UN, oh well.

Cheers
Marty

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Dave wrote: BTW, who's sitting
on that Committee on Human Rights these days?


That be that Khadafi fellow per chance?

Cheers
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Sure. They're a "theoretical" possibility of finding tons of WMD.
Even Kay said that, but he also said that it was highly unlikely
and improbable. Bush and company (literally) lied to us.

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:56:02 +1100, OzOn wrote this crap:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:17:50 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:21:23 +1100, OzOn wrote this crap:

Yep, It's so scary when the most powerful country on earth has a Govt
that will falsify and exagerrate in order to invade another country.

What was falsified or exaggerated?

Idiot!
The reports of huge stockpiles of WMD ready for release at any moment,
Nuclear weapons facilities and uranium being shipped in.

No Uranium, No stockpile!

How do you know that was falsified? We haven't found the stockpiles
yet. Have you searched every inch of the desert?




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So now we're suppose to believe Osama... well, ok. We did invade Iraq. We're
currently occupying it at a cost of American lives on a daily basis. Thanks
Bush.
thanks for nothing.

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OzOn wrote:
Yep, It's so scary when the most powerful country on earth has a Govt
that will falsify and exagerrate in order to invade another country.

That's a lie, Oz. We didn't invade Iraq. Iraq invaded Kuwait and we had
the Gulf War. When the war was over and Bush Sr. didn't take out Saddam,
I
said out loud, "this will come back to bite us in the ass someday" and my
words rang true. All the proof I need of WMD is Saddam gassing his own
people. Osama's last tape a month ago makes reference to Saddam being on
his side. Maybe you should search google for Osama Bin Laden's exact
words.

AND get away with it because to question Govt is apparently
unpatriotic.

Nope, I question all the time. It doesn't matter which side of the
political spectrum they're on...

LP