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otnmbrd January 22nd 04 05:30 AM

AIS
 
Had my first look at an active AIS system today. I can see this becoming
a very useful tool, especially for the offshore cruisers and
single-handed sailors.
All it would need would be a simple receiver that was connected to your
GPS for inputs, to be able to compare and give warnings of potential and
positive close approaches from ships in your area.
The system I saw, gave ship name, position, heading, speed,
draft,destination, and ETA .... there may have been more, but it was
only a quick look.

otn


Martin Baxter January 22nd 04 12:57 PM

AIS
 
otnmbrd wrote:

Had my first look at an active AIS system today. I can see this becoming
a very useful tool, especially for the offshore cruisers and
single-handed sailors.


It became a requirement for all commercial vessels on the St. Seaway/Great Lakes
last year. I thought it was kind of a waste of money to install it on the ferry
I ride twice a day, there's a cable ferry not too far from my home (five miles),
they have to install one, the boat holds three cars (small ones at that) and plies
a course of about 300 metres!

Whoever makes these systems is probably fairly happy with the Canadian Government.

Cheers
Marty

otnmbrd January 22nd 04 05:33 PM

AIS
 


Martin Baxter wrote:
otnmbrd wrote:

Had my first look at an active AIS system today. I can see this becoming
a very useful tool, especially for the offshore cruisers and
single-handed sailors.



It became a requirement for all commercial vessels on the St. Seaway/Great Lakes
last year. I thought it was kind of a waste of money to install it on the ferry
I ride twice a day, there's a cable ferry not too far from my home (five miles),
they have to install one, the boat holds three cars (small ones at that) and plies
a course of about 300 metres!

Whoever makes these systems is probably fairly happy with the Canadian Government.

Cheers
Marty



This is an IMO requirement, in the main. Possibly, individual
governments are opting for early implementing of some aspects and I
believe I'm hearing of some concerns regarding cost and need for the
system on some vessels, such as the one you mention.
When it's totally up and running and the cost come down, although I
think it will still be too costly for the average boater, at least they
should have the ability to have a receiver to make use of the info
available.

otn


Donal January 22nd 04 06:22 PM

AIS
 

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
link.net...




This is an IMO requirement, in the main.


Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?



Regards


Donal
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otnmbrd January 22nd 04 07:28 PM

AIS
 


Donal wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
link.net...



This is an IMO requirement, in the main.



Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?


Yes .... and no. The IMO is still a developing body.
The point is, that this is not just a Canadian Gov. issue. Different
"Port States" will tend to argue over various points of implementation
which can and will cause some delays in total implementation, and/or
might change the final way that some vessels may be required or not
required to comply.
Although many of the requirements are in place and equipment is
installed, I don't think we've heard the last as to how this will work
for everyone.
otn



Martin Baxter January 22nd 04 07:39 PM

AIS
 
Donal wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
link.net...



This is an IMO requirement, in the main.



Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?


Usually "Upon", unless of course you are "in" a submerged
submarine. ;-)

Cheers
Marty


Donal January 22nd 04 10:39 PM

AIS
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
link.net...



This is an IMO requirement, in the main.



Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?


Usually "Upon", unless of course you are "in" a submerged
submarine. ;-)


I stand corrected!


I'm also relieved by the fact that somebody understands the nonsense that I
write.



Regards


Donal
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Shen44 January 23rd 04 04:54 AM

AIS
 
Subject: AIS
From: "Donal"
Date: 01/22/2004 14:39 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
link.net...



This is an IMO requirement, in the main.


Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?


Usually "Upon", unless of course you are "in" a submerged
submarine. ;-)


I stand corrected!


I'm also relieved by the fact that somebody understands the nonsense that I
write.



Regards


Donal
--


I refrained from commenting on your post in the "AND" thread, since most of
what you wrote was nonsense.
Now we realize, you really are just another Neal, and most anything you post,
is nonsense.
Thanks, saves wasted future post.

Shen

Martin Baxter January 23rd 04 11:52 AM

AIS
 
Donal wrote:



I'm also relieved by the fact that somebody understands the nonsense that I
write.


Some of us actuall read something other than magazines that
review cars, stereos, cameras and anything from J D Powers!

Cheers
Marty


Donal January 26th 04 11:24 PM

AIS
 

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Donal wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
link.net...



This is an IMO requirement, in the main.



Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?


Yes .... and no. The IMO is still a developing body.
The point is, that this is not just a Canadian Gov. issue. Different
"Port States" will tend to argue over various points of implementation
which can and will cause some delays in total implementation, and/or
might change the final way that some vessels may be required or not
required to comply.


[cough cough]
Sorry to interrupt .... but ... "main" means "sea".

"Aren't all IMO requirements "in the main"?" was meant to be a *joke*.


Think about it, "main"="sea"..... Geddit?

No, I thought not.

I give up.... I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind. There is
absolutely no point whatsoever in posting here. My talents are completely
wasted. None of you understand a bloody word that I write.


What's the point, eh?


Although many of the requirements are in place and equipment is
installed, I don't think we've heard the last as to how this will work
for everyone.



I know,..... I know. [sigh].

Perhaps I can help. In about 4 years, NMEA compatible receivers will be
available for about $100. 4 years after that, the transcievers will only
cost $100.


Regards


Donal
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Lady Pilot January 27th 04 05:34 AM

AIS
 

"Donal" wrote:
I give up.... I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind. There is
absolutely no point whatsoever in posting here. My talents are completely
wasted. None of you understand a bloody word that I write.


Poor Irishman, I can feel your pain. ;-)

LP ...LOL



MC January 27th 04 06:08 AM

AIS
 


Lady Pilot wrote:

"Donal" wrote:

I give up.... I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind.



Poor Irishman, I can feel your rain. ;-)



Good Lord.

Cheers


Martin Baxter January 27th 04 12:34 PM

AIS
 
Donal wrote:


I give up.... I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind. There is
absolutely no point whatsoever in posting here. My talents are completely
wasted. None of you understand a bloody word that I write.


Oy! I rsent that brush!

What's the point, eh?



Perhaps I can help. In about 4 years, NMEA compatible receivers will be
available for about $100. 4 years after that, the transcievers will only
cost $100.


Do you have some solid information to justify these claims or are you
engaging in idle speculation?

Cheers
Marty


Bobsprit January 27th 04 01:04 PM

AIS
 
I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind.

I'm guessing you practice this.

RB

Bobsprit January 27th 04 01:04 PM

AIS
 
My talents are completely
wasted.



"Talents???"
Oh, okay!

RB

Donal January 28th 04 12:24 AM

AIS
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:


I give up.... I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind. There is
absolutely no point whatsoever in posting here. My talents are

completely
wasted. None of you understand a bloody word that I write.


Oy! I rsent that brush!

What's the point, eh?



Perhaps I can help. In about 4 years, NMEA compatible receivers will

be
available for about $100. 4 years after that, the transcievers will

only
cost $100.


Do you have some solid information to justify these claims or are you
engaging in idle speculation?


Idle speculation.

However, 12 years ago I used to sell 8 port Ethernet switches for $8k. Now,
I can sell you one for $30.

I've noticed that manufacturers don't have to design products anymore. The
chip manufacturers even provide the PCB layout these days. They probably
even provide an e-mail programme to load into the CAM machine.

Regards


Donal
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Lady Pilot January 29th 04 03:14 AM

AIS
 

"MC" wrote:


Lady Pilot wrote:

"Donal" wrote:

I give up.... I'm obviously ****ing straight into the wind.



Poor Irishman, I can feel your rain. ;-)



Good Lord.


You have a sick mind, forging my posts the way you do...pathetic!

LP (does MC get into all this stuff?) E-e-e-e-w-w




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