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otnmbrd January 22nd 04 05:24 AM

Current or no current
 


Joe wrote:
Do you have a current were you dock?

When your docking your boat do you like a little current or not?

I loved one marina I lived in because it had a 3-7 knot current that
ran parellel to the dock. It was great having the current to work
against. Always made arrival and departure smooth as a feather.

Only bad point was marine life grew on the hull faster and we were
affected by wakes more often.

Here in the marina I'm at now we have still water and its 2 tight left
turns
into the slip. Windage is a bitch, and I have a left hand wheel and
dock bow in
port side to always throwing the stern away from the docking side
while backing, and I usually have to back some because of the speed
needed to make it in the slip without being blown down. If I stay here
much longer Im going to have to get a right hand wheel.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


I frequently have to make stbd side too dockings with right hand props.
As I'm approaching the dock, I try to be in a slow left turn, so that
when I back to stop for position, the prop walk stops my swing and I'm
flat alongside. If possible for your situation, same would apply, in
reverse.

otn


Scout January 22nd 04 10:34 AM

Current or no current
 
120VAC. Whether or not it flows is up to me.
Scout

"Joe" wrote in message
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Do you have a current were you dock?




Joe January 22nd 04 03:14 PM

Current or no current
 
MC wrote in message ...
Questions:

1) Why bow in if prop walk a problem.


Because of the layout of the wheelhouse, its much easier to get on and
off the boat on the post side, and the dock on the stbd side is narrow
and covered with storage boxes. On the port side bow in, we have
almost 1500 square feet of dock space.

2) Wouldn't a dock line which is easily picked up solve the
turning/windage problem?


yeah, we do that now. I just like to lay in and step off without the
hassles. Turning and windage isnt much of a problem with enough way
on, just that quick stop always kicks the stern to stbd so someone has
to jump off and and toss a stern line.


Cheers

Joe wrote:

Do you have a current were you dock?

When your docking your boat do you like a little current or not?

I loved one marina I lived in because it had a 3-7 knot current that
ran parellel to the dock. It was great having the current to work
against. Always made arrival and departure smooth as a feather.

Only bad point was marine life grew on the hull faster and we were
affected by wakes more often.

Here in the marina I'm at now we have still water and its 2 tight left
turns
into the slip. Windage is a bitch, and I have a left hand wheel and
dock bow in
port side to always throwing the stern away from the docking side
while backing, and I usually have to back some because of the speed
needed to make it in the slip without being blown down. If I stay here
much longer Im going to have to get a right hand wheel.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Joe January 22nd 04 03:24 PM

Current or no current
 
(Thom Stewart) wrote in message ...
Joe,

I haven't read any of the replies yet, but I want to remind you, if you
have a single prop you have both a left and right handed helm. If your
stern walks left in reserve it will walk right in forward. Remember
there is also a third gear on your gear box (Neutral)


I know Thom, but when you back hard your sorta crocked sideway in the
slip with the bow to port corner and stern to stbd corner. Thats ok
you just put her in netural and use your dock line to align the boat
or you can put a spring line out and drive the stern in, in forward as
you suggest.


From neutral you can pop the stern in either direction, Just slip it
into gear, rev up quickly and back down and into neutral again

I learned and awful lot watching my female crew dock. Pussy footing in
and using stern walk is a pretty successful way to dock


Yeah I love to dock stbd side 2 it's easy as pie due to wheel walk,
But to revup and pop er in forward gear to get my stern to move to
port can be done but I have to have a spring out and full right
rudder. I like the capt Ron type style docking.

Joe


Ole Thom


Joe January 22nd 04 03:31 PM

Current or no current
 
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Do you have a current were you dock?


Yes. It varies, sometimes it goes one way, and sometimes it goes the other
way.


Thats called a tidal current you on-shore yachtmaster.




When your docking your boat do you like a little current or not?


I don't really mind it. It tends to help.


Yeah I agree.


I loved one marina I lived in because it had a 3-7 knot current that
ran parellel to the dock. It was great having the current to work
against. Always made arrival and departure smooth as a feather.

Only bad point was marine life grew on the hull faster and we were
affected by wakes more often.


I know what you mean. Idiots driving big boats at silly speeds.


Most likely onshore yachtmasters that have no clue that they are
responsible for their wakes.





Here in the marina I'm at now we have still water and its 2 tight left
turns
into the slip. Windage is a bitch, and I have a left hand wheel and
dock bow in
port side to always throwing the stern away from the docking side
while backing, and I usually have to back some because of the speed
needed to make it in the slip without being blown down. If I stay here
much longer Im going to have to get a right hand wheel.


It would be cheaper to get a clue!


Perhaps you should buy one then.



On reflection, it might be easier to get a right hand wheel.







Regards


Donal
--


Joe January 22nd 04 03:36 PM

Current or no current
 
otnmbrd wrote in message hlink.net...
Joe wrote:
Do you have a current were you dock?

When your docking your boat do you like a little current or not?

I loved one marina I lived in because it had a 3-7 knot current that
ran parellel to the dock. It was great having the current to work
against. Always made arrival and departure smooth as a feather.

Only bad point was marine life grew on the hull faster and we were
affected by wakes more often.

Here in the marina I'm at now we have still water and its 2 tight left
turns
into the slip. Windage is a bitch, and I have a left hand wheel and
dock bow in
port side to always throwing the stern away from the docking side
while backing, and I usually have to back some because of the speed
needed to make it in the slip without being blown down. If I stay here
much longer Im going to have to get a right hand wheel.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


I frequently have to make stbd side too dockings with right hand props.
As I'm approaching the dock, I try to be in a slow left turn, so that
when I back to stop for position, the prop walk stops my swing and I'm
flat alongside. If possible for your situation, same would apply, in
reverse.

otn


I do not have room to make a slow right hand turn, it's left turn
left tuen and no room for a S turn. And the way the winds channels
between the building here slow is usually not an option. But I know
what your saying.

Joe

Donal January 22nd 04 04:56 PM

Current or no current
 

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message

...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Do you have a current were you dock?


Yes. It varies, sometimes it goes one way, and sometimes it goes the

other
way.


Thats called a tidal current you on-shore yachtmaster.



Thanks! I'll try to remember that.




When your docking your boat do you like a little current or not?


I don't really mind it. It tends to help.


Yeah I agree.


I loved one marina I lived in because it had a 3-7 knot current that
ran parellel to the dock. It was great having the current to work
against. Always made arrival and departure smooth as a feather.

Only bad point was marine life grew on the hull faster and we were
affected by wakes more often.


I know what you mean. Idiots driving big boats at silly speeds.


Most likely onshore yachtmasters that have no clue that they are
responsible for their wakes.


Nah! The main offenders are the pilot boats. If anybody else broke the
speed limit the way they do, the police would prosecute them.







Here in the marina I'm at now we have still water and its 2 tight left
turns
into the slip. Windage is a bitch, and I have a left hand wheel and
dock bow in
port side to always throwing the stern away from the docking side
while backing, and I usually have to back some because of the speed
needed to make it in the slip without being blown down. If I stay here
much longer Im going to have to get a right hand wheel.


It would be cheaper to get a clue!


Perhaps you should buy one then.


Clue absorbtion is usually free. However, there are some potential
problems.

Factors that can impede tha absorbtion of "clue" include "Thick skull",
"Red neck", and to a lesser extent, "Texas". That's why I think that you
should get a right hand wheel!




On reflection, it might be easier to get a right hand wheel.




Regards

Donal
--



otnmbrd January 22nd 04 05:26 PM

Current or no current
 


Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
om...



I loved one marina I lived in because it had a 3-7 knot current that
ran parellel to the dock. It was great having the current to work
against. Always made arrival and departure smooth as a feather.

Only bad point was marine life grew on the hull faster and we were
affected by wakes more often.

I know what you mean. Idiots driving big boats at silly speeds.


Most likely onshore yachtmasters that have no clue that they are
responsible for their wakes.



Nah! The main offenders are the pilot boats. If anybody else broke the
speed limit the way they do, the police would prosecute them.


ROFLMAO

otn


MC January 22nd 04 08:53 PM

Current or no current
 


Joe wrote:

"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Joe" wrote in message
.com...

Do you have a current were you dock?


Yes. It varies, sometimes it goes one way, and sometimes it goes the other
way.



Thats called a tidal current you on-shore yachtmaster.



Actually it's the tidal stream. Current is continuous.

Cheers


MC January 22nd 04 08:54 PM

Current or no current
 


Donal wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
om...

"Donal" wrote in message


...

"Joe" wrote in message
e.com...

Do you have a current were you dock?

Yes. It varies, sometimes it goes one way, and sometimes it goes the


other

way.


Thats called a tidal current you on-shore yachtmaster.




Thanks! I'll try to remember that.


Don't, it's wrong -as a yachtmaster or coatsal skipper should know.

Cheers




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