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Foggy River
Here is a good example of the type of fog you see on Mark Twains favorite
river: http://away.com/gifs/states/mn/fall_missriver.jpg Anyone know what type of fog this is? And how it is formed? Notice how calm it is? makes it thick as can be Notice how flat the water is? great for a crystal clear radar picture Notice how low it is? Lots of sunlight makes it very bright-snowblinds ya Notice the steep banks? Makes a easy-to-learn radar picture. How many other types of fog exist? Would you be scared to navigate in this fog? Joe MSV RedCloud |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... Here is a good example of the type of fog you see on Mark Twains favorite river: http://away.com/gifs/states/mn/fall_missriver.jpg Anyone know what type of fog this is? And how it is formed? Notice how calm it is? makes it thick as can be Notice how flat the water is? great for a crystal clear radar picture Notice how low it is? Lots of sunlight makes it very bright-snowblinds ya Notice the steep banks? Makes a easy-to-learn radar picture. How many other types of fog exist? Would you be scared to navigate in this fog? Depends..... Do *you* motor about on that river? Regards Donal -- |
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Joe wrote: Here is a good example of the type of fog you see on Mark Twains favorite river: http://away.com/gifs/states/mn/fall_missriver.jpg Anyone know what type of fog this is? And how it is formed? It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, I forget the official name for it. And if it is in St Paul Minn, it's well above Mark Twain country IIRC. Would you be scared to navigate in this fog? If it was on a river with current, yes. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers |
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MC wrote:
Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Very good. Thanks. Now, what use is this again? DSK |
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There are four types of fog and you could guess for a long time about =
that picture. I'm assuming it's evaporative since it looks like an = autumn picture with probable cold air passing over a warmer body of = water creating the mass....the upper layer of cold air would prohibit = the fog from rising. =20 --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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katysails wrote:
There are four types of fog and you could guess for a long time about that picture. I'm assuming it's evaporative since it looks like an autumn picture with probable cold air passing over a warmer body of water creating the mass....the upper layer of cold air would prohibit the fog from rising. That's not what MC said... Ain't it funny how you and I (and probably a quite a few others around here) could deduce the conditions but only Navvie knows it's proper taxonomy (or is it orthography). DSK |
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DSK wrote: katysails wrote: There are four types of fog and you could guess for a long time about that picture. I'm assuming it's evaporative since it looks like an autumn picture with probable cold air passing over a warmer body of water creating the mass....the upper layer of cold air would prohibit the fog from rising. That's not what MC said... Ain't it funny how you and I (and probably a quite a few others around here) could deduce the conditions but only Navvie knows it's proper taxonomy (or is it orthography). Education? Cheers |
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"Donal"
Would you be scared to navigate in this fog? Depends..... Do *you* motor about on that river? Sure do here is a picture for you: http://www.maritimepersonnel.net/images/crewboat.jpg Better watch out! Better stay at home were your sure to be somewhat safe. Joe MSV RedCloud Regards Donal -- |
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OZ asked:=20
How long do the shafts last? I lived right smack dab between the Mississippi and the Merrimac for = three years...the Mississippi is a muddy, muddy river and if you don't = service your engine continuously, it will go shot quite quickly. People = sail up north of St Louis and I've heard that sailboat engines suffer, = too. Running the Mississippi through your engine is like pouring mud = through a fine sieve.=20 --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. |
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otnmbrd wrote in message link.net...
MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. Radiation Fog - occurs under clear, calm skies when infrared radiation (heat) escapes to upper atmosphere and outer space and the air is cooled to its dewpoint. Sometimes called valley fog or ground fog and is the most common fog over land in the world. Advection Fog - occurs when warm, humid air is cooled to its dewpoint by coming into contact with a cooler surface below. Snow, ice, and cold water are common surfaces that cause advection fog. MC is correct. The Mississippi is cold, and lots of warm air from the south flows into the delta. Steam Fog - occurs when cooler air rests above warmer water and vapor that evaporates into the air cools to its dewpoint. Sometimes called Arctic sea smoke. You see this on your local lakes many times, just not to the scale seen in the artics. And when it starts it weird looking like snakes growing out of the sea. Upslope Fog - occurs when air is forced to rise up a large slope and cools (adiabatically) to its dewpoint. Common in mountainous states. Frontal Fog - also knows as precipitation fog and occurs when rain drops fall into unsaturated, cooler air below. As the drops evaporate, water vapor is introduced into the cooler air. Very quickly, the vapor condenses into a small fog droplet. Sorry Katy 5 not 4 types. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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"katysails" wrote in message ...
OZ asked: How long do the shafts last? I lived right smack dab between the Mississippi and the Merrimac for three years...the Mississippi is a muddy, muddy river and if you don't service your engine continuously, it will go shot quite quickly. People sail up north of St Louis and I've heard that sailboat engines suffer, too. Running the Mississippi through your engine is like pouring mud through a fine sieve. Just keep a few spare impellers on board and clean your strainers often. Better on your engines than heavy salt. Ive never been further north than New Orleans and Im sure it saltier and clearer in the delta region due to tidal effects. Oz as far as shafts go-- Im assuming your talking about propeller shafts. They last longer than the propellers unless you hit something real hard like a submerged oak stump. Katy failed to mention that not only is it muddy but its full of stuff, like trees, logs, weeds, sunken everythings, traps....ect... And when some town washes out upriver it can get real interesting what you see floating out. It would be a great trip to sail down from St louis, sailing upstream is on most boats out of the question. Joe |
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DSK wrote in message ...
Joe wrote: Here is a good example of the type of fog you see on Mark Twains favorite river: http://away.com/gifs/states/mn/fall_missriver.jpg Anyone know what type of fog this is? And how it is formed? It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, I forget the official name for it. And if it is in St Paul Minn, it's well above Mark Twain country IIRC. I know, but its a good example of fog on the mississippi, best picture I could find. Would you be scared to navigate in this fog? If it was on a river with current, yes. Looks like a wide river most every river Ive been in had some currents. Are you talking current in excess of your boat ability to make headway? If not( assuming you have a good radar) why would you be scared, its easy to steer by compass and radar, and correcting for set sould not be to difficult. with a good radar picture. Joe MSV RedCloud Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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otnmbrd wrote: MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. Was it evening? Cheers |
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Cheers Joe wrote: Radiation Fog - occurs under clear, calm skies when infrared radiation (heat) escapes to upper atmosphere and outer space and the air is cooled to its dewpoint. Sometimes called valley fog or ground fog and is the most common fog over land in the world. Advection Fog - occurs when warm, humid air is cooled to its dewpoint by coming into contact with a cooler surface below. Snow, ice, and cold water are common surfaces that cause advection fog. MC is correct. The Mississippi is cold, and lots of warm air from the south flows into the delta. Steam Fog - occurs when cooler air rests above warmer water and vapor that evaporates into the air cools to its dewpoint. Sometimes called Arctic sea smoke. You see this on your local lakes many times, just not to the scale seen in the artics. And when it starts it weird looking like snakes growing out of the sea. Upslope Fog - occurs when air is forced to rise up a large slope and cools (adiabatically) to its dewpoint. Common in mountainous states. Frontal Fog - also knows as precipitation fog and occurs when rain drops fall into unsaturated, cooler air below. As the drops evaporate, water vapor is introduced into the cooler air. Very quickly, the vapor condenses into a small fog droplet. Sorry Katy 5 not 4 types. Joe MSV RedCloud |
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"MC" asked... Education? |
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Joe wrote: otnmbrd wrote in message link.net... MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. Radiation Fog - occurs under clear, calm skies when infrared radiation (heat) escapes to upper atmosphere and outer space and the air is cooled to its dewpoint. Sometimes called valley fog or ground fog and is the most common fog over land in the world. EG Since I couldn't see under your fog bank in the picture. I wasn't sure whether it was a valley or river under there. In all seriousness, where I am, we frequently get a radiation fog from the land (farm land) around us, which drifts/ blows over the harbor and out to sea ... the end results can be the same. Advection Fog - occurs when warm, humid air is cooled to its dewpoint by coming into contact with a cooler surface below. Snow, ice, and cold water are common surfaces that cause advection fog. MC is correct. The Mississippi is cold, and lots of warm air from the south flows into the delta. Steam Fog - occurs when cooler air rests above warmer water and vapor that evaporates into the air cools to its dewpoint. Sometimes called Arctic sea smoke. You see this on your local lakes many times, just not to the scale seen in the artics. And when it starts it weird looking like snakes growing out of the sea. You find this frequently when approaching the Gulf Stream, up North. Upslope Fog - occurs when air is forced to rise up a large slope and cools (adiabatically) to its dewpoint. Common in mountainous states. Frontal Fog - also knows as precipitation fog and occurs when rain drops fall into unsaturated, cooler air below. As the drops evaporate, water vapor is introduced into the cooler air. Very quickly, the vapor condenses into a small fog droplet. Sorry Katy 5 not 4 types. Joe MSV RedCloud |
Foggy River - Merrimac?
Could someone tells us where the Merrimac (no k) river is?
Not all of us are inland. The names and descriptions of fog types. Matt Colie otnmbrd wrote: Joe wrote: otnmbrd wrote in message link.net... MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. Radiation Fog - occurs under clear, calm skies when infrared radiation (heat) escapes to upper atmosphere and outer space and the air is cooled to its dewpoint. Sometimes called valley fog or ground fog and is the most common fog over land in the world. EG Since I couldn't see under your fog bank in the picture. I wasn't sure whether it was a valley or river under there. In all seriousness, where I am, we frequently get a radiation fog from the land (farm land) around us, which drifts/ blows over the harbor and out to sea ... the end results can be the same. Advection Fog - occurs when warm, humid air is cooled to its dewpoint by coming into contact with a cooler surface below. Snow, ice, and cold water are common surfaces that cause advection fog. MC is correct. The Mississippi is cold, and lots of warm air from the south flows into the delta. Steam Fog - occurs when cooler air rests above warmer water and vapor that evaporates into the air cools to its dewpoint. Sometimes called Arctic sea smoke. You see this on your local lakes many times, just not to the scale seen in the artics. And when it starts it weird looking like snakes growing out of the sea. You find this frequently when approaching the Gulf Stream, up North. Upslope Fog - occurs when air is forced to rise up a large slope and cools (adiabatically) to its dewpoint. Common in mountainous states. Frontal Fog - also knows as precipitation fog and occurs when rain drops fall into unsaturated, cooler air below. As the drops evaporate, water vapor is introduced into the cooler air. Very quickly, the vapor condenses into a small fog droplet. Sorry Katy 5 not 4 types. Joe MSV RedCloud |
Foggy River - Merrimac?
The Merrimack R. runs South through the middle of NH down into Mass and
drains into the Atl just N of Boston. I think Katy is referring to the MERAMEC R. which drains into the Miss. on the south side of St. Lois, MO. Scotty "Matt Colie" wrote in message ... Could someone tells us where the Merrimac (no k) river is? Not all of us are inland. The names and descriptions of fog types. Matt Colie otnmbrd wrote: Joe wrote: otnmbrd wrote in message link.net... MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. Radiation Fog - occurs under clear, calm skies when infrared radiation (heat) escapes to upper atmosphere and outer space and the air is cooled to its dewpoint. Sometimes called valley fog or ground fog and is the most common fog over land in the world. EG Since I couldn't see under your fog bank in the picture. I wasn't sure whether it was a valley or river under there. In all seriousness, where I am, we frequently get a radiation fog from the land (farm land) around us, which drifts/ blows over the harbor and out to sea ... the end results can be the same. Advection Fog - occurs when warm, humid air is cooled to its dewpoint by coming into contact with a cooler surface below. Snow, ice, and cold water are common surfaces that cause advection fog. MC is correct. The Mississippi is cold, and lots of warm air from the south flows into the delta. Steam Fog - occurs when cooler air rests above warmer water and vapor that evaporates into the air cools to its dewpoint. Sometimes called Arctic sea smoke. You see this on your local lakes many times, just not to the scale seen in the artics. And when it starts it weird looking like snakes growing out of the sea. You find this frequently when approaching the Gulf Stream, up North. Upslope Fog - occurs when air is forced to rise up a large slope and cools (adiabatically) to its dewpoint. Common in mountainous states. Frontal Fog - also knows as precipitation fog and occurs when rain drops fall into unsaturated, cooler air below. As the drops evaporate, water vapor is introduced into the cooler air. Very quickly, the vapor condenses into a small fog droplet. Sorry Katy 5 not 4 types. Joe MSV RedCloud |
Foggy River - Merrimac?
Matt Colie wrote: Could someone tells us where the Merrimac (no k) river is? Not all of us are inland. The names and descriptions of fog types. Matt Colie Does the Merrimack, which passes Merrimack, N.H. become the Merrimac, when it passes Merrimac, Ma.? |
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otnmbrd wrote: Matt Colie wrote: Could someone tells us where the Merrimac (no k) river is? Not all of us are inland. The names and descriptions of fog types. Matt Colie Does the Merrimack, which passes Merrimack, N.H. become the Merrimac, when it passes Merrimac, Ma.? In spite of some natives, the chart still lists it as Merrimack (like the skuttled ship that the Virginia was built on) at Newburyport. Matt |
Foggy River - Merrimac?
Scotty,
Thank you. Merrimack I know. That was stomping ground many years. But when someone said between the Mississippi and the Merrimac, it took about three beats for me to guess that he did not mean somewhere between the Mississippi River and New Hampshire. Matt Colie Scott Vernon wrote: The Merrimack R. runs South through the middle of NH down into Mass and drains into the Atl just N of Boston. I think Katy is referring to the MERAMEC R. which drains into the Miss. on the south side of St. Lois, MO. Scotty "Matt Colie" wrote in message ... Could someone tells us where the Merrimac (no k) river is? Not all of us are inland. The names and descriptions of fog types. Matt Colie otnmbrd wrote: Joe wrote: otnmbrd wrote in message arthlink.net... MC wrote: DSK wrote: It looks like a blanket of fog in chilly air over warm water, Correct! I forget the official name for it. Let me help you. Think 'sea' might be an ad*ective for fog? Cheers See, now I'd have guessed radiation fog, not advection. Radiation Fog - occurs under clear, calm skies when infrared radiation (heat) escapes to upper atmosphere and outer space and the air is cooled to its dewpoint. Sometimes called valley fog or ground fog and is the most common fog over land in the world. EG Since I couldn't see under your fog bank in the picture. I wasn't sure whether it was a valley or river under there. In all seriousness, where I am, we frequently get a radiation fog from the land (farm land) around us, which drifts/ blows over the harbor and out to sea ... the end results can be the same. Advection Fog - occurs when warm, humid air is cooled to its dewpoint by coming into contact with a cooler surface below. Snow, ice, and cold water are common surfaces that cause advection fog. MC is correct. The Mississippi is cold, and lots of warm air from the south flows into the delta. Steam Fog - occurs when cooler air rests above warmer water and vapor that evaporates into the air cools to its dewpoint. Sometimes called Arctic sea smoke. You see this on your local lakes many times, just not to the scale seen in the artics. And when it starts it weird looking like snakes growing out of the sea. You find this frequently when approaching the Gulf Stream, up North. Upslope Fog - occurs when air is forced to rise up a large slope and cools (adiabatically) to its dewpoint. Common in mountainous states. Frontal Fog - also knows as precipitation fog and occurs when rain drops fall into unsaturated, cooler air below. As the drops evaporate, water vapor is introduced into the cooler air. Very quickly, the vapor condenses into a small fog droplet. Sorry Katy 5 not 4 types. Joe MSV RedCloud |
Foggy River - Merrimac?
Scotty stated erroneously: I think Katy is referring to the MERAMEC R. =
which drains into the Miss. on the south side of St. Lois, MO. It's the Merrimack River in MO...I dropped the "K" off the end.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Where in MO?
"katysails" wrote in message ... Scotty stated erroneously: I think Katy is referring to the MERAMEC R. which drains into the Miss. on the south side of St. Lois, MO. It's the Merrimack River in MO...I dropped the "K" off the end.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Where in MO?
South of St. Louis...it runs between the St. Louis and Jefferson County = lines.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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What a coincidence, so does the MERAMEC RIVER. Wonder if their related?
Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... Where in MO? South of St. Louis...it runs between the St. Louis and Jefferson County lines.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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What a coincidence, so does the MERAMEC RIVER.
Oh lordy lord! RB |
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Scott Vernon wrote:
What a coincidence, so does the MERAMEC RIVER. Wonder if their related? Small world, isn't it? DSK |
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"DSK" wrote Small world, isn't it? Cold, too. |
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What a coincidence, so does the MERAMEC RIVER. Wonder if their related?
Scotty \Ok so I spelled the frickin river worng....I still lived within a 1/2 = mile of it and swam in it all the time....lots of chiggers in the brush = but good fishing=20 --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... What a coincidence, so does the MERAMEC RIVER. Wonder if their related? Scotty \Ok so I spelled the frickin river worng....I still lived within a 1/2 mile of it and swam in it all the time....lots of chiggers in the brush but good fishing -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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So? I grew up on the Schuylkill R. and I knew how to spell it.
BTW, You're supposed to call them Afro-Americans now a days. for shame Katy. Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... What a coincidence, so does the MERAMEC RIVER. Wonder if their related? Scotty \Ok so I spelled the frickin river worng....I still lived within a 1/2 mile of it and swam in it all the time....lots of chiggers in the brush but good fishing -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Scotty,
I don't make racist remarks....take that one back. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:03:00 -0500, "katysails"
wrote: Scotty, I don't make racist remarks....take that one back. He's talking about the "Chiggers" or "Chigroes" as we say around here. :o) Mark E. Williams |
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Mark sexplained: He's talking about the "Chiggers" or "Chigroes" as we =
say around here. :o) Mark E. Williams I knew what he was referring to...and it's racist.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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So!.....You admit it.
"katysails" wrote I knew what he was referring to...and it's racist.... |
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"katysails" wrote
Scotty, I don't make racist remarks.... Nor does my buddy's ex. She couldn't bring herself to say the "n" word, but she dumped him because he spoke like "a low class colored person". Then there was the Fall River Debutante who went ballist when I referred to an Italian friend as a "ginny", never mind that's what he called himself. Seems she was Portuguese and the Damnyankees thereabouts called her a "ginny" too. A few minites later she observed that "This used to be a nice neighborhood until all the spics moved in!". Ain't PC wonderful? |
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Vito epostulated: Nor does my buddy's ex.=20
No correlation. I have 2 hispanic grandchildren, 2 Korean = grandchildren, a granddaughter that is 1/4 American Indian, and my best = friend is black. Oh...and I'm related to Canadians; probably the most = damning thing to Scotty. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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katysails wrote:
Oh...and I'm related to Canadians; probably the most damning thing to Scotty. No, probably the most damning thing to Canadians! ;-) Cheers Marty |
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