Friend has ordered one of these!
 

Nice boat, very impressive. What type sailing does he, will he do?

SV

OzOne wrote in message ...

Friend of mine has ordered a Beneteau 473
http://www.beneteauusa.com/beneteau_series/473.php
with damned near every option and extra that they offer incl the big
motor, extra tall stick and bow thruster.
Delivery in a few months...can't wait for a cruise.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

He races weekends, midweek, does the long ones up the East coast Syd
Mooloolaba, whitsunday race week etc etc.


According to Ganzy, that comfortable boat won't ever leave the dock. It is so
written!

RB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

How much does one needs to earn in a year to own such a beautiful boat?
I'm not referring to having a million bucks in bank but say if my job pays
me US$70,000 a year, will I be able to afford to buy and maintain this boat?


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
He races weekends, midweek, does the long ones up the East coast Syd
Mooloolaba, whitsunday race week etc etc.


According to Ganzy, that comfortable boat won't ever leave the dock. It is
so
written!

RB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

How much does one needs to earn in a year to own such a beautiful boat?
I'm not referring to having a million bucks in bank but say if my job pays
me US$70,000 a year, will I be able to afford to buy and maintain this boat?


If you make 70K a year you can probably own a nice mid eighties Pearson or C&C
costing 35-50K, depending on what you drive and other factors of course. Some
folks say 70K equals 70K, meaning you can afford the boat that equals what you
make in a year, but I say about 20% less.

RB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

Only if you don't waste your money on crappy home entertainment junk and bad
cameras, eat too much,and are lazy like bob.


"Bobsprit" wrote

If you make 70K a year you can probably own a nice mid eighties Pearson or
C&C
costing 35-50K, depending on what you drive and other factors of course.
Some
folks say 70K equals 70K, meaning you can afford the boat that equals what
you
make in a year, but I say about 20% less.

RB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

"nova" wrote in message
...
How much does one needs to earn in a year to own such a beautiful boat?
I'm not referring to having a million bucks in bank but say if my job pays
me US$70,000 a year, will I be able to afford to buy and maintain this
boat?



I've heard that ownership costs about 10% of the new price excluding any
loan repayments.

A big chunk will be the berthing fees. If you can get a cheap mooring, you
can cut the cost almost in half.


So, if you saved up 10% of the cost last year, and you have enough money to
buy the boat outright, then you can possibly afford it.


Regards


Donal
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Friend has ordered one of these!
 

This fully explains Scotty's 5K Siedelmann! Thanks for clearing that
up.

Damn, Bill, that was horribly sharp, mean, uncalled for, on target and
below-the-belt.
Wish I'd said it!

RB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

very good bill, now how much is $250 times 3?

The cost of your house?

RB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

very good bill, now how much is $250 times 3?


wrote

This fully explains Scotty's 5K Siedelmann! Thanks for clearing that
up.

BB

Friend has ordered one of these!
 

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, "nova" wrote:

How much does one needs to earn in a year
to own such a beautiful boat [a Beneteau 473]?

I'm not referring to having a million bucks in
bank but say if my job pays me US$70,000 a
year, will I be able to afford to buy and maintain
this boat?

For many present and would-be boat owners, these are questions
(regardless, obviously, which particular brand or size of boat one
wants), although it appears that, as is so in other contexts, the last
taboo in the U.S. is being open and honest about money. However,
herewith some "guesstimates":

A new Beneteau 473 costs +/- $245K/$280K (and up) depending on
configuration/options (sail inventory, electronics, etc.) and,
depending whether one buys at a show or during other special sale
conditions, even a base-price +/- $240K boat might be available and
also quite suitable for many costal cruising situations.

For them whut have the cash, presently prevailing economic conditions
increasingly make all-cash puchases attractive. Conversely, your
hypothetical $70K/year salaried person can compute the financing
charges for the above. In addition, to take the northeast U.S. as an
example:

A yearly marina slip for that size boat, including a once or twice a
year haul-out, can be in the +/- $6k/7K yearly range (and up), _if_
one can find such a slip, plus perhaps another +/- $1.5K/2k for
winterizing and related services for a new/new-ish boat, plus +/-
$1.7K/$2K for full-coverage insurance (depending on one's area of
use).

Mooring fees instead of a marina slip can of course be much lower.

Some labor/service fees can of course be mitigated by self-help,
although many marinas discourage (and increasing numbers completely
prohibit) an owner doing anything more than cosmetic Stuff (washing,
cleaning, minimal maintenance).

Membership (or not) in a yacht/sailing club is of course entirely
optional, although (at least for cruisers) it can be helpful; and the
costs therefor can varify from the just nominal, e.g., for "virtual"
or low-service associations, of which there are a fair number, to the
astronomical.

And it is of course very easy to find (or anyway to fail to refrain
from avoiding) any number of ways to spend lots more. Possibly, there
are some ways to spend a bit less.

In our home-base area (not far from where R.Brody/"Bobsprit"
repeatedly says he sails), last season there were five B473s of which
I am aware and one B423 (which, in my opinion, is a much nicer yet
quite comparable boat), and there will be more of each next year.
With one partial exception some of the time (the owner is something of
a workaholic at his profession) none of them remain at the dock for
very long.

It (obviously) is (very) far from Revealed Truth that anyone need (or,
for many, should) purchase a new boat; and older and lower-priced
boats are not difficult to find.

Still, sales of new boats, not least including Beneteaus and
(increasingly to a comparatively lesser extent) of Catalinas, which
(apart from "decor"/cosmetics) are comparable (if somewhat more
expensive), have been at once solid and increasing in recent years.