Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

I was more interested in your question:
"an inflatable rubber saucer is you only and/or best solution in case you
are
sinking?"

What other options are you thinking about?

1.) A hard dinghy, ala Lin & Larry,
2.) Putting the boat in solid shape,
3.) Realizing the chance of a sinking is remote compared to other risks,
4.) Realizing that maybe -- just maybe -- an inflatable rubber saucer might
not inflate when you need it, so plan to not need it.

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Compared to Ganzy and Scotty I'm frikin' Columbus!

RB


Bob's gay? .... or a necrophiliac???

Clever, Donal!!!

RB

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Is there really no approach from the west along a line of latitude until
landfall can be made?

Cheers

DSK wrote:

MC wrote:


It is if you wish to sail along a line of latitude.


Not a good way to approach Bermuda. There's reefs and stuff.

DSK

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

JAXAshby wrote:

frank the frickin idgit writes thusly:


Jax claims an IQ of 154
*based on the MENSA IQ test*. This test uses a standard deviation of
24, instead of the more typical 15. Therefore, his claimed IQ, in
numbers most of us are more used to using, is in the low 130s.


130 to 135 to 137 to 140 to 145 to 154, depending on the test. 98.5%tile on
most tests. 96%tile on some, 99.5% on others.

Who the **** cares but the low ball types.



Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Cheers

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

MC wrote:

Is there really no approach from the west along a line of latitude until
landfall can be made?

Depends on your boat, your nerves, and the weather. Supposedly there are a
couple of channels used by locals coming in from the west, but AFAIK the
approach usually relied on is to sail well north (or south, if you have
either come from the Bahamas or have been blown past it) and around to the
east side.

http://www.tallships2000.bm/captain.html#Approaches to Bermuda

Several Newport-Bermuda races have hinged on how well the navigator manages
this.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Bob WINS at being VERY inexperienced! Thanks for the clarification!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Compared to Ganzy and Scotty I'm frikin' Columbus!

RB

Which still makes me VERY inexperienced.

RB

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Apparently.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Bobsprit" wrote

When did I say I was an experienced sailor,



Compared to Ganzy and Scotty I'm frikin' Columbus!

RB


Bob's gay? .... or a necrophiliac???




Regards


Donal
--

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

yeah, my 133 to 154 (depending on the test) was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay below their
198 to 305 IQ's

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Compared to Ganzy and Scotty I'm frikin' Columbus!

RB


Bob's gay? .... or a necrophiliac???

Clever, Donal!!!

Woweeee! Recognition at last!




Regards


Donal
--

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was more interested in your question:
"an inflatable rubber saucer is you only and/or best solution in case you
are
sinking?"

What other options are you thinking about?

1.) A hard dinghy, ala Lin & Larry,

This seems to be the only realistic option.

Your question was about the options when your boat was already sinking. So
the rest of your answers are fairly irrelevant, arent they?

2.) Putting the boat in solid shape,
3.) Realizing the chance of a sinking is remote compared to other risks,
4.) Realizing that maybe -- just maybe -- an inflatable rubber saucer
might
not inflate when you need it, so plan to not need it.



regards


Donal
--

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Your question was about the options when your boat was already sinking. So
the rest of your answers are fairly irrelevant, arent they?

oh god, no. unless one also asks the question of a young man, "What medication
scheme is the best in case you catch lung cancer 40 years from now?". Plainly,
not smoking is a cheaper, more viable option than chemo maybe at some future
point.

reducing the risk is always preferable. Liferaft or not, you already have a
greater chance of dying of skin cancer than drowning on a sinking sailboat.
For the price of the liferaft you can buy a LOT of sunscreen AND have a greater
chance of dying from a gunshot wound of a jealous husband at age 95 to boot.

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

You know every time someone tells me I have xx IQ or I just
did a deal for xx $$, or I just bought a brand new xx for 1/2 the
cost, I know for certain that they are full of it.

If you believe you're brilliant, fine with me.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, my 133 to 154 (depending on the test) was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay below
their
198 to 305 IQ's

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me
to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Donal wrote:

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...

I was more interested in your question:
"an inflatable rubber saucer is you only and/or best solution in case you
are
sinking?"

What other options are you thinking about?

1.) A hard dinghy, ala Lin & Larry,


This seems to be the only realistic option.

Your question was about the options when your boat was already sinking. So
the rest of your answers are fairly irrelevant, arent they?

I'd say a good inflatable is much better than a hard dinghy.

Cheers

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

it's hard to argue with scientific logic.


"JAXAshby" wrote

What other options are you thinking about?

1.) A hard dinghy, ala Lin & Larry,
2.) Putting the boat in solid shape,
3.) Realizing the chance of a sinking is remote compared to other risks,
4.) Realizing that maybe -- just maybe -- an inflatable rubber saucer
might
not inflate when you need it, so plan to not need it.

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Both.


"Lanod" asked


Bob's gay? .... or a necrophiliac???




Regards


Donal
--

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:07:19 -0800, "Jon-boy Ganz"
wrote this homo crap:

From everything you tell us of course!!

From what?


Well, you certainly have enough experience with
boyfriends to know!

How would you know?



This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"JAXAshby" wrote ...
I was given so many tests over the 5 years between 7th and 8th grades,
three teachers asked my mother if they could "shoot" me

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

I don't understand it, the site you posted says:

"When approaching Bermuda from the Northeast through North around to
Southwest it must be remembered that reefs extend up to 10 miles from
the island in these directions"

but doesn't mention from the west.

Cheers

DSK wrote:
MC wrote:


Is there really no approach from the west along a line of latitude until
landfall can be made?


Depends on your boat, your nerves, and the weather. Supposedly there are a
couple of channels used by locals coming in from the west, but AFAIK the
approach usually relied on is to sail well north (or south, if you have
either come from the Bahamas or have been blown past it) and around to the
east side.

http://www.tallships2000.bm/captain.html#Approaches to Bermuda

Several Newport-Bermuda races have hinged on how well the navigator manages
this.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Sounds like it's well protected then -is that something to do with the
Gulf stream? Are there a lot of shipwrecks?

Cheers




DSK wrote:

MC wrote:


Is there really no approach from the west along a line of latitude until
landfall can be made?


Depends on your boat, your nerves, and the weather. Supposedly there are a
couple of channels used by locals coming in from the west, but AFAIK the
approach usually relied on is to sail well north (or south, if you have
either come from the Bahamas or have been blown past it) and around to the
east side.

http://www.tallships2000.bm/captain.html#Approaches to Bermuda

Several Newport-Bermuda races have hinged on how well the navigator manages
this.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Sounds like they were trying to diagnose some sort of problem.


On 21 Jan 2004 21:35:37 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Extinct volcanic mount with a fringe reef..... on the Bermuda Rise
formation. Yes lots of wrecks but not affected by the stream. Bloody
expensive place..... try $20 for a burger!

CM

"MC" wrote in message
...
| Sounds like it's well protected then -is that something to do with the
| Gulf stream? Are there a lot of shipwrecks?
|
| Cheers
|
|
|
|
| DSK wrote:
|
| MC wrote:
|
|
| Is there really no approach from the west along a line of latitude until
| landfall can be made?
|
|
| Depends on your boat, your nerves, and the weather. Supposedly there are
a
| couple of channels used by locals coming in from the west, but AFAIK the
| approach usually relied on is to sail well north (or south, if you have
| either come from the Bahamas or have been blown past it) and around to
the
| east side.
|
| http://www.tallships2000.bm/captain.html#Approaches to Bermuda
|
| Several Newport-Bermuda races have hinged on how well the navigator
manages
| this.
|
| Fresh Breezes- Doug King
|
|

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

sorry, ganz. not my type.

You know every time someone tells me I have xx IQ or I just
did a deal for xx $$, or I just bought a brand new xx for 1/2 the
cost, I know for certain that they are full of it.

If you believe you're brilliant, fine with me.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, my 133 to 154 (depending on the test) was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay below
their
198 to 305 IQ's

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me
to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

to you, _may_ be.


Sounds like they were trying to diagnose some sort of problem.


On 21 Jan 2004 21:35:37 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:29:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

You know every time someone tells me I have xx IQ or I just
did a deal for xx $$, or I just bought a brand new xx for 1/2 the
cost, I know for certain that they are full of it.

If you believe you're brilliant, fine with me.

I think it is more telling when middle aged people tell stories of
their "achievements" during their Jr High and High School days. Sort
of conjures up images of Al Bundy. Well, except Al was employed,
married and likeable.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, my 133 to 154 (depending on the test) was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay below
their
198 to 305 IQ's

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me
to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

I know it's difficult for you, but do try to parse the
sentence... From everything you tell us of course....

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:07:19 -0800, "Jon-boy Ganz"
wrote this homo crap:

From everything you tell us of course!!

From what?


Well, you certainly have enough experience with
boyfriends to know!

How would you know?



This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

But Jackass, you *are* full of it.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
sorry, ganz. not my type.

You know every time someone tells me I have xx IQ or I just
did a deal for xx $$, or I just bought a brand new xx for 1/2 the
cost, I know for certain that they are full of it.

If you believe you're brilliant, fine with me.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, my 133 to 154 (depending on the test) was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
below
their
198 to 305 IQ's

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow"
me
to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Hahhahha .. yep, that's true

"felton" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:29:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

You know every time someone tells me I have xx IQ or I just
did a deal for xx $$, or I just bought a brand new xx for 1/2 the
cost, I know for certain that they are full of it.

If you believe you're brilliant, fine with me.

I think it is more telling when middle aged people tell stories of
their "achievements" during their Jr High and High School days. Sort
of conjures up images of Al Bundy. Well, except Al was employed,
married and likeable.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, my 133 to 154 (depending on the test) was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
below
their
198 to 305 IQ's

The reason being that they couldn't believe how low the scores
were, while still allowing you to talk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow"
me
to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

You mean it's not obvious??

"felton" wrote in message
...
Sounds like they were trying to diagnose some sort of problem.


On 21 Jan 2004 21:35:37 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:10:15 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

You mean it's not obvious??

Well, it is now, because the problem seems to be in the "full blown
onset" stage. Perhaps it was a bit more mysterious *way* back in Jr
High. Of course, if we are not careful, we will be treated to his
stories of his late teens and early twenties. I hope we have some
advance warning. Perhaps I could schedule a proctoscopic exam or a
root canal and miss "Jax's Story Time".



"felton" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds like they were trying to diagnose some sort of problem.


On 21 Jan 2004 21:35:37 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

I was given so many different tests over the years I can't begin to
remember
them all. Even my summer between 7th and 8th grades, three teachers
doing
their normal grad coursework asked my mother if they could "borrow" me to
practise their testing giving skills.

Is that why you take so many IQ tests?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

DSK,

You don't have to sail the Longitude, you just need to know the local
noon hour. Fifteen minutes will put you 60 miles one way or the other.
Still within broadcast range of the Island.

By the way Doug, the Sun appears about one degree higher in the sky
about every 4th day (91.25/23.5=3.88 days per degree) if you don't have
an almanac.

A fist, with the tip of the thumb folded into the fingers, held at arms
length is 10 degree. 2 degrees per knuckle. 1 degree from the top of the
knuckle to the valley between. This will give you a sun sight within
sixty miles, within broadcast range of the island, if you don't have a
sextant or batteries for your GPS

Now, if my old 77 yr brain remembers right Montauk Point is pretty close
to 41 degrees Lat & 72 Lon ( 4 fists & 1/2
knuckle )and four and three quarters later than GMT

Bermuda is about four and a quarters later than GMT and about 3 fists
and 1/2 knuckle Sun Sight plus one degree for every day past March 21,
subtract a degree for four days to go to Mar. 21

Listen for the Broadcast from the Island, you can't miss it.

Have a great trip and enjoy.

Ole Thom

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Doug,

What a great site!!!

I got him in the area but you got him tied-up.

Now we can sit back and envy the bum

Ole Thom

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

MC wrote:

I don't understand it, the site you posted says:

"When approaching Bermuda from the Northeast through North around to
Southwest it must be remembered that reefs extend up to 10 miles from
the island in these directions"

but doesn't mention from the west.

Excuse me, but what does "Northeast through North around to Southwest" mean
exactly? Perhaps on all bearings between the ones named, hmm?

Better yet, sail to Bermuda yourself and approach from the west. Let us know what
happens. But pay me that bet you lost first, I don't want to fool around with
your estate.

DSK

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

Yes it does. I don't know how that post appeared.

Cheers

DSK wrote:


MC wrote:


I don't understand it, the site you posted says:

"When approaching Bermuda from the Northeast through North around to
Southwest it must be remembered that reefs extend up to 10 miles from
the island in these directions"

but doesn't mention from the west.


Excuse me, but what does "Northeast through North around to Southwest" mean
exactly? Perhaps on all bearings between the ones named, hmm?

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

You pay me and I'll find out where that post came from.

Cheers