On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:52:40 +1300, MC wrote:



felton wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:43:05 +1300, MC wrote:



DSK wrote:


JAXAshby wrote:


dougie, a "benefit" is something that adds to the overall effect. In
this case
there is no benefit because there is no problem with transoms not
being strong
enough on the size and type sailboats under discussion. Calling it a
benefit
doesn't make it one.


Let's see... an inherently stronger structure is not better than an
inherently weaker one? What sort of engineering is this? Oh wait, it's
JAXINEERING!



A reverse transom is still lighter and faster than a canoe and is
designed to be strong enough. Your argument is ridiculous.

Cheers


"The canoe stern, besides being a thing of beauty, is according to
Crealock, "a potential bow; for when the weather is truly bad, it is
the stern which will bear most of its venom."


never seen a trasom crushed by a wave. I fully agree that if you cannot
keep sailing that a canoe offers some advanates for sea keeping with
drogues etc. but the strength is not the issue.

The canoe stern is hardly unique to Valiant.

It also follows very old design ideas.


The above quote from
Crealock was written relative to the PSC 37, also, coincidentally, in
the Sailboat Hall of Fame. Having a canoe stern doesn't seem to be
disqualifiying boats from the Hall of Fame


But none of them win races anymore -not even in the southern ocean
running before waves....


Cheers

But we weren't talking about optimal racing designs. We were
originally talking about seaworthy designs for challenging conditions,
at least I think we were.

From the Hall of Fame induction...


"The outsized appeal of the Valiant 40 once earned it the label of
"cult boat" in some circles, but that did a disservice to the fact
that much of the boat's popularity derives from its remarkable
achievements under sail. It has been the boat of choice for a number
of circumnavigators and has recorded finishes at the top of fleets in
some of the world's most challenging races, including the Singlehanded
Transatlantic and the BOC Challenge. In the Valiant 40 Resourceful in
l983, Mark Schrader set the record for the fastest circumnavigation,
becoming the first American to sail around the world via the five
capes.

Of all the bragging rights that go with Valiant 40 ownership, one of
the most impressive, according to Worstell, is that no Valiant 40 has
suffered a disabling failure. "Failure" is certainly not a word to use
in connection with this boat, whose success began with innovation and
continues with enduring excellence."