Bart, do you think hams will become angry at you for encouraging an ass such
as me to pollute their airwaves?
Do you think I'm suddenly am going to become a considerate, nice guy just
because I'm broadcasting on amateur radio?
Why do people promote their own interests and hobbies to others and then
complain when the hobby/interest becomes over run or degraded?
It seems a rational person with a true love of what he has or does would
want to protect and preserve it.
Well, anyway, thanks for opening the door to the devil!

RB, K7UGA



"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
Before you start shopping for HAM radio, you
will need a HAM license.

For online practice tests:

http://www.aa9pw.com/radio/

Choose Technician Exam in the blue box.

If you take a practice test every day for
a week or two, you can probably pass the test.

For advice on purchasing a radio try:

http://www.eham.net/

Start with a 2 meter mobile radio, or dual
band 2 meter 70 cm (440 MHz) radio, a 12
volt DC power supply--or a big battery like
an auto battery, some RG-8 feedline and
connectors, and a high gain verticle antenna
like the Comet GP-9.

Once you are comfortable with that radio, you
may want a second radio for your car, and you
can begin to study for the next higher HAM
class--General.

Most HAMs learn about the properties of the
various bands by talking to other HAM about
the equipment they use and their capabilities.

The next higher General class license is what
you need for worldwide, long-range communication.
Along with a written test there is an easy 5
word per minute Morse Code exam. You can expect
you will need two weeks an hour a day study for
each written test and for the code test.

Bart Senior
(Bobsprit) wrote

Hey, Max...what do you think of these as entry radios for use on a boat?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=40 0
66&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

and


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=40 0
67&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

Thanks,

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Bart, do you think hams will become angry at you for encouraging an ass
such
as me to pollute their airwaves?
Do you think I'm suddenly am going to become a considerate, nice guy just
because I'm broadcasting on amateur radio?

I'm not Bart, but I'll answer those questions for you. First, one does not
"broadcast" on amateur bands. One communicates with others. Second, you
will be a "considerate, nice guy" on the ham bands, or you'll find one of
two things will occur: 1) no one will talk to you and you'll be yelling at
dead air, or 2) someone--a do-gooder, perhaps--will attempt to help you
improve your on-the-air courtesy to the point you'll be an acceptable
communicator. Unlike 11M, where almost no one actually communicates any
more, the ham bands are self-policed and fools and miscreants aren't
suffered gladly. IF you choose to be a jerk on ham radio, you'll discover
just how lonely it can get.

Why do people promote their own interests and hobbies to others and then
complain when the hobby/interest becomes over run or degraded?

This hasn't been a problem for amateur radio. Jerks either go away
eventually, or they convert. In some cases they get turned over to the FCC
for prosecution if they create enough trouble. One repeater group in this
area has transceiver-printing equipment, which can identify any individual
radio by its transmitter waveform characteristics and idiosyncracies. Using
this equipment and other means they have turned several idiots over to the
FCC, for which fines totalling in excess of $100,000 have been levied.
Moral of the story: don't screw with hams. They can be aggressive in
putting your butt in a sling. You may get away with crap on 11M, but not on
the ham bands.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Bart, do you think hams will become angry at you for encouraging an ass
such
as me to pollute their airwaves?
Do you think I'm suddenly am going to become a considerate, nice guy
just
because I'm broadcasting on amateur radio?

I'm not Bart, but I'll answer those questions for you. First, one does
not
"broadcast" on amateur bands. One communicates with others. Second, you
will be a "considerate, nice guy" on the ham bands, or you'll find one of
two things will occur: 1) no one will talk to you and you'll be yelling
at
dead air, or 2) someone--a do-gooder, perhaps--will attempt to help you
improve your on-the-air courtesy to the point you'll be an acceptable
communicator. Unlike 11M, where almost no one actually communicates any
more, the ham bands are self-policed and fools and miscreants aren't
suffered gladly. IF you choose to be a jerk on ham radio, you'll discover
just how lonely it can get.

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this newsgroup.


Why do people promote their own interests and hobbies to others and then
complain when the hobby/interest becomes over run or degraded?

This hasn't been a problem for amateur radio. Jerks either go away
eventually, or they convert. In some cases they get turned over to the
FCC
for prosecution if they create enough trouble. One repeater group in this
area has transceiver-printing equipment, which can identify any individual
radio by its transmitter waveform characteristics and idiosyncracies.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily change the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by using a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of the antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The modulation is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage on the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every transmission it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to evade. An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short transmissions of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also useless. I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will prevail.

RB, Capt ASA, K7UGA



Using
this equipment and other means they have turned several idiots over to the
FCC, for which fines totalling in excess of $100,000 have been levied.
Moral of the story: don't screw with hams. They can be aggressive in
putting your butt in a sling. You may get away with crap on 11M, but not
on
the ham bands.

Max

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this
newsgroup.

This NG is hardly representative of anything beyond this NG. Thankfully.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily change
the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by using a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of the
antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The modulation is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle
variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage on the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every transmission it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Amusing, Bobby. Nice job of bull****ting, though. You might actually fool
some here.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to evade. An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short transmissions of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also useless.
I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

LOL.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will prevail.

You might. A few do. But most just get bored with being ignored and go
away.

Max

Max, it's not bobby. It's Gilligan. Check the headers. Gilligan
isn't bull****ting (about this anyway).

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this
newsgroup.

This NG is hardly representative of anything beyond this NG. Thankfully.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily change
the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by using
a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of the
antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The modulation is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more
complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle
variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage on the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every transmission
it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Amusing, Bobby. Nice job of bull****ting, though. You might actually
fool
some here.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to evade. An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short transmissions
of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also
useless.
I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

LOL.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will prevail.

You might. A few do. But most just get bored with being ignored and go
away.

Max

I wish that Gilligan would stop impersonating me. It really is getting me
irritated.

RB, K7UGA





"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Max, it's not bobby. It's Gilligan. Check the headers. Gilligan
isn't bull****ting (about this anyway).

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this
newsgroup.

This NG is hardly representative of anything beyond this NG.
Thankfully.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily
change
the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by
using
a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of the
antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The modulation is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more
complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle
variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage on
the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every transmission
it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Amusing, Bobby. Nice job of bull****ting, though. You might actually
fool
some here.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to evade. An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short
transmissions
of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also
useless.
I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

LOL.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will
prevail.

You might. A few do. But most just get bored with being ignored and go
away.

Max

I like the callsign, Gilly.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
ink.net...
I wish that Gilligan would stop impersonating me. It really is getting me
irritated.

RB, K7UGA





"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Max, it's not bobby. It's Gilligan. Check the headers. Gilligan
isn't bull****ting (about this anyway).

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this
newsgroup.

This NG is hardly representative of anything beyond this NG.
Thankfully.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily
change
the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by
using
a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of the
antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The modulation is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more
complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle
variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage on
the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every transmission
it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Amusing, Bobby. Nice job of bull****ting, though. You might actually
fool
some here.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to evade. An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short
transmissions
of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also
useless.
I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

LOL.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will
prevail.

You might. A few do. But most just get bored with being ignored and go
away.

Max

I'm glad you got it.

RB, K7UGA

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I like the callsign, Gilly.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
ink.net...
I wish that Gilligan would stop impersonating me. It really is getting
me
irritated.

RB, K7UGA





"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Max, it's not bobby. It's Gilligan. Check the headers. Gilligan
isn't bull****ting (about this anyway).

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this
newsgroup.

This NG is hardly representative of anything beyond this NG.
Thankfully.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily
change
the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by
using
a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of
the
antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The
modulation is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more
complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle
variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage
on
the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of
the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every
transmission
it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Amusing, Bobby. Nice job of bull****ting, though. You might
actually
fool
some here.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to
evade. An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short
transmissions
of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also
useless.
I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

LOL.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will
prevail.

You might. A few do. But most just get bored with being ignored
and go
away.

Max

Heheheheh....

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
ink.net...
I wish that Gilligan would stop impersonating me. It really is getting me
irritated.

RB, K7UGA





"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Max, it's not bobby. It's Gilligan. Check the headers. Gilligan
isn't bull****ting (about this anyway).

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Not if I can find other jerks. Just look at what goes on in this
newsgroup.

This NG is hardly representative of anything beyond this NG.
Thankfully.

This type of monitoring is very easy to circumvent. I can easily
change
the
risetime and overshoot of the key-on characteristics of my rig by
using
a
modified circuit for paddle keys or by simply placing the end of the
antenna
in a bucket of saline (secondary dielectric moding). The modulation
is
easily changed by running into a cheapo audio equalizer. The more
complex
analyses such as instantaneous AM-PM conversion or cycle to cycle
variation
can be overcome by such methods as varying the regulator voltage on
the
transmit section or by changing the order, type or phase margin of
the
transmitter phase locked loop. In other words, with every
transmission
it
will appear as a different transmitter.

Amusing, Bobby. Nice job of bull****ting, though. You might actually
fool
some here.

Your simplistic fox hunting techniques are also very easy to evade.
An
amplitude detecting direction finder is useless for short
transmissions
of
varying amplitude. Your silly phase modulated techniques are also
useless.
I
can easily overcome them with an asynchronous QAM subcarrier.

LOL.

The FCC does not have the time or resources to catch me. I will
prevail.

You might. A few do. But most just get bored with being ignored and
go
away.

Max

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Max, it's not bobby. It's Gilligan. Check the headers. Gilligan
isn't bull****ting (about this anyway).

I've eliminated the headers from my newsreader (by choice), so I don't see
'em normally. And keeping track of folks in this NG is a challenge.

Max