Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Tell us what happened... although it is sailing related...

"Lonny" wrote in message
om...
Hey Min,

I have a ham licence. I remember just fine, thank you very much. I
had mine before I used the SSB, and was trying to remember if it was
required in order to operate it.

It has been a few years since I have done some serious off shore
sailing because after a close call with losing my life I decided not
to do it again until my children are grown. Doing loads of coastal
stuff, though. No need for SSB there. At least I have not found the
need.

Lonny


It has been almost ten years since I have done some serious"Maxprop"
wrote in message
ink.net...
"Lonny" wrote in message

SSB is a completely different animal than VHF, of course. If I recall
correctly, I had to get a ham license in order to operate one.

You recall incorrectly. Marine SSB does not require a ham license. And
there's no way you'd not recall obtaining a ham radio operator's permit.
It's not a simple task.

Max

Yet Another BULLSHIT post
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
et...
Don't you all wish you could afford the expensive boats, cameras and
electronics I purchase every year. I throw out better stuff than all of
you
purchase in your lifetimes. It's great to be me. I think I'll stay home
tonight and count all the cameras and breasts in my apartment.
Your leader
Boobsy

Your joy about your life seems very shallow

I know a guy who has spent the last 5 or 6 years rebuilding a 100 year old
classic workboat.
14 tons of it.
He has recorded over 5000 hours work so far.... 99% of it entirely his own
skills and labour.
He has refurbished or replaced every single timber, selecting and seasoning
all the new wood himself.
He will launch it later this year... and she will sail again...
Your toys and shop bought gizmo's will never bring you the satisfaction and
contentment he will experience on that day.

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Lonny wrote:


It has been a few years since I have done some serious off shore
sailing because after a close call with losing my life I decided not
to do it again until my children are grown.

Care to tell the story?

Cheers

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

I know a guy who has spent the last 5 or 6 years rebuilding a 100 year old
classic workboat.


He sounds like an idiot.

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Yeh, but that's only because it takes one to know one.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I know a guy who has spent the last 5 or 6 years rebuilding a 100 year old
classic workboat.


He sounds like an idiot.

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

160M
through 10M. You'll need a general license to operate voice on 10M, and
you'll only require a southern accent, a handle, and an IQ of less than 30
to operate on 11M, the so-called Citizen's Band.

Lots of radio enthusiasts play in the SSB of 11 meter and do quite well.
The
general license is also not exactly tough...just 5 wpm for morse. 35
multiple
choice questions. Memorize the easily available question database (350
questions total) and you can't miss. Moreover, many of the questions are
giveaways.
I picked up a copy of "Now You're Talking" and it's pretty easy stuff.

Yeah, it's gotten easier over the years. I took the general under the
current rules, ie--5wpm, etc. And it wasn't all that tough. But rather
than just memorize the material, I actually learned it. Silly me.

I expect the Morse Code requirement to be deleted in the not too distant
future. Very few use it anymore, but that's unfortunate as it requires
almost no bandwidth for a bunch of simultaneous rag chewers.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

The ideal rig has access to
both band spectra.

Max

Max, what would radios would be on your list...budget and high price, that
could also do marine SSB out of the box?

I'm unaware of any ham HF rigs that will transmit on marine SSB bands out of
the box. They all will receive them, however. I do think some marine SSB
rigs are easily modified for ham bands, however, but I don't know the market
well in those. Almost any ham transceiver can be modified to transmit in
the marine bands, but how hard and at what expense to effect the
modifications is unknown to me.

I'm partial to Yaesu and Kenwood, but oddly enough I have an ICOM 706 on my
boat.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Maxprop wrote:



I'm unaware of any ham HF rigs that will transmit on marine SSB bands out of
the box. They all will receive them, however. I do think some marine SSB
rigs are easily modified for ham bands, however, but I don't know the market
well in those.

ICOM is one, it just takes a jumper...

Cheers

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

I thought I heard that Morse code was oficially dead last year???

Cheers MC

Maxprop wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message


160M
through 10M. You'll need a general license to operate voice on 10M, and
you'll only require a southern accent, a handle, and an IQ of less than 30
to operate on 11M, the so-called Citizen's Band.

Lots of radio enthusiasts play in the SSB of 11 meter and do quite well.

The

general license is also not exactly tough...just 5 wpm for morse. 35

multiple

choice questions. Memorize the easily available question database (350
questions total) and you can't miss. Moreover, many of the questions are
giveaways.
I picked up a copy of "Now You're Talking" and it's pretty easy stuff.


Yeah, it's gotten easier over the years. I took the general under the
current rules, ie--5wpm, etc. And it wasn't all that tough. But rather
than just memorize the material, I actually learned it. Silly me.

I expect the Morse Code requirement to be deleted in the not too distant
future. Very few use it anymore, but that's unfortunate as it requires
almost no bandwidth for a bunch of simultaneous rag chewers.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Yeh, but that's only because it takes one to know one.


Then he must know a hundred!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Yeah, it's gotten easier over the years. I took the general under the
current rules, ie--5wpm, etc. And it wasn't all that tough. But rather
than just memorize the material, I actually learned it. Silly me.

I took the test at QRZ.com and passed, but not by much. I'll study the book and
follow the rules as such, but I doubt I'll get into radio mods and end up with
twenty radios. I'm just looking for something fun aboard when I'm on the hook
and can't sleep. I put the Voyage 10M on board, but I don't know what it'll
do-I just know little about ham. It can also "operate" on 11 meter SSB.

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

On 14 Jan 2004 22:06:29 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

I know a guy who has spent the last 5 or 6 years rebuilding a 100 year old
classic workboat.


He sounds like an idiot.

Not if he can sell it for 800 grand.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Bob, I hate to point it out, but you're the idiot.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Yeh, but that's only because it takes one to know one.


Then he must know a hundred!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Not if your bra is too tight.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 14 Jan 2004 22:06:29 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

I know a guy who has spent the last 5 or 6 years rebuilding a 100 year
old
classic workboat.


He sounds like an idiot.

Not if he can sell it for 800 grand.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Bob, I hate to point it out, but you're the idiot.

But then you must be one too...your own logic!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

I took the test at QRZ.com and passed, but not by much. I'll study the
book and
follow the rules as such, but I doubt I'll get into radio mods and end up
with
twenty radios. I'm just looking for something fun aboard when I'm on the
hook
and can't sleep. I put the Voyage 10M on board, but I don't know what
it'll
do-I just know little about ham. It can also "operate" on 11 meter SSB.

I have a 4 watt QRP transceiver for 10M that I've used on the boat while at
the dock. The low output doesn't interfere with other peoples' electronics,
and I've worked Africa and parts of Europe and Asia with it. Most
importantly the amp draw during transmit is low enough that I can use it on
the hook as well without draining the batteries. Don't try that with a 100w
transceiver, unless you've got some mega-banks or a genset.

If you're looking for something to occupy the idle hours on the hook, try
2M. Can't be beat for just yakking, and everyone ashore wants to make
marine mobile contacts. They almost line up to talk with you.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"MC" wrote in message

I thought I heard that Morse code was oficially dead last year???

Not sure what you heard there, but the US still recognizes the international
treaty to require Morse on its licensing exams. And some old timers still
work CW, especially at night and on weekends, probably to keep their
"wrists" smooth. I do expect the Morse requirement to fall by the wayside
someday soon, nonetheless.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"MC" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:



I'm unaware of any ham HF rigs that will transmit on marine SSB bands
out of
the box. They all will receive them, however. I do think some marine
SSB
rigs are easily modified for ham bands, however, but I don't know the
market
well in those.

ICOM is one, it just takes a jumper...

There was an article in Cruising World a few years back implying that was
the case. I haven't stayed up on the marine SSB rigs, but I wouldn't be
surprised if ICOM includes instructions for the jumper.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

If you're looking for something to occupy the idle hours on the hook, try
2M. Can't be beat for just yakking, and everyone ashore wants to make
marine mobile contacts. They almost line up to talk with you.


What's the deal with 2M range-wise? I thought it worked good range with
repeaters only...not sure, I'm on the learning curve with all of this.

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

You win. You're the bigger idiot.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob, I hate to point it out, but you're the idiot.

But then you must be one too...your own logic!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Bobsprit" wrote
Lots of radio enthusiasts play in the SSB of 11 meter and do quite well.
The
general license is also not exactly tough...just 5 wpm for morse. 35
multiple
choice questions. Memorize the easily available question database (350
questions total) and you can't miss. Moreover, many of the questions are
giveaways.

Practice exams at http://199.245.125.13/ham/index.html

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Maxprop" wrote
...... Almost any ham transceiver can be modified to transmit in
the marine bands, but how hard and at what expense to effect the
modifications is unknown to me.

Go to http://www.mods.dk/ and click on your radio. As others have noted it
isn't legal to use a Ham rig cuz they're not FCC type accepted but .....

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Not in the USA (yet) where many feel it's useful for keeping others (you)
off their frequencies. It's fun but any tehnical advantage it had
disappeared with the advent of digital modes like PSK31.

"MC" wrote in message
...
I thought I heard that Morse code was oficially dead last year???

Cheers MC

Maxprop wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message


160M
through 10M. You'll need a general license to operate voice on 10M, and
you'll only require a southern accent, a handle, and an IQ of less than
30
to operate on 11M, the so-called Citizen's Band.

Lots of radio enthusiasts play in the SSB of 11 meter and do quite well.

The

general license is also not exactly tough...just 5 wpm for morse. 35

multiple

choice questions. Memorize the easily available question database (350
questions total) and you can't miss. Moreover, many of the questions are
giveaways.
I picked up a copy of "Now You're Talking" and it's pretty easy stuff.


Yeah, it's gotten easier over the years. I took the general under the
current rules, ie--5wpm, etc. And it wasn't all that tough. But rather
than just memorize the material, I actually learned it. Silly me.

I expect the Morse Code requirement to be deleted in the not too distant
future. Very few use it anymore, but that's unfortunate as it requires
almost no bandwidth for a bunch of simultaneous rag chewers.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Maxprop" wrote
Not sure what you heard there, but the US still recognizes the
international
treaty to require Morse on its licensing exams. .......

The international radio treaty no longer requires Morse so many countries
have dropped the requirement but USA and others still do.

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Bobsprit" wrote

What's the deal with 2M range-wise? I thought it worked good range with
repeaters only...not sure, I'm on the learning curve with all of this.

VHF/UHF is close to line of sight so I can reach repeaters on the Eastern
Shore from the mouth of the Rapahannoc but not as far inland due to terrian.

Ever more repeaters are using voice-over-internet to connect to other
repeaters all over the world but purists think little of it.

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

You win. You're the bigger idiot.


But you're the Gay Master Idiot!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

So, what you're trying to say is that you lost???

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You win. You're the bigger idiot.


But you're the Master Idiot!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

So, what you're trying to say is that you lost???

Yes, you are clearly KING of the idiots.

We all tremble before your might idiocy.

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Well, at least you admit that you're a loser.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
So, what you're trying to say is that you lost???

Yes, you are clearly KING of the idiots.

We all tremble before your might idiocy.

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Well, at least you admit that you're a loser


Okay, Master Idiot!!!


Bwahahahaaha! Shwing! Buh Bye, Ganzy!


RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Ok loser! Bwahahahahahaha.... so what have you stolen lately?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Well, at least you admit that you're a loser


Okay, Master Idiot!!!


Bwahahahaaha! Shwing! Buh Bye, Ganzy!


RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

If you're looking for something to occupy the idle hours on the hook, try
2M. Can't be beat for just yakking, and everyone ashore wants to make
marine mobile contacts. They almost line up to talk with you.


What's the deal with 2M range-wise? I thought it worked good range with
repeaters only...not sure, I'm on the learning curve with all of this.

2M is VHF, so it's line-of-sight. But there are repeaters nearly
everywhere. Difficult to make contact simplex. About the only way to
initiate contact is to bring up a repeater and announce your presence.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

"Vito" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote
Not sure what you heard there, but the US still recognizes the
international
treaty to require Morse on its licensing exams. .......

The international radio treaty no longer requires Morse so many countries
have dropped the requirement but USA and others still do.

Do you think the US will drop that requirement anytime soon? Seems almost
inevitable eventually.

Max

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Isn't Doug a king too?

Cheers

Bobsprit wrote:

So, what you're trying to say is that you lost???

Yes, you are clearly KING of the idiots.

We all tremble before your might idiocy.

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Isn't Doug a king too?


Good point. I guess we better make Ganzy the Queen. They're a cute couple!

Ewwwwww!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

What's the deal with 2M range-wise? I thought it worked good range with
repeaters only...not sure, I'm on the learning curve with all of this.

2M is VHF, so it's line-of-sight.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I think it sounds more fun to not use the
repeaters, which sounds like a relayed cordless phone call to me.

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Yep... looks like Bob lost twice. He must be the queen of idiots.

"MC" wrote in message
...
Isn't Doug a king too?

Cheers

Bobsprit wrote:

So, what you're trying to say is that you lost???

Yes, you are clearly KING of the idiots.

We all tremble before your might idiocy.

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Yet Another BULLSHIT post
 

Hey, Max...what do you think of these as entry radios for use on a boat?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=40 0
66&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=40 0
67&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

Thanks,

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

I defer to you. You're the clear winner of the queen queer contest.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Isn't Doug a king too?


Good point. I guess we better make Ganzy the Queen. They're a cute couple!

Ewwwwww!

RB

Yet Another Marine Radio question
 

Did I hear a noise?? Oh, it was that fag... sorry.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:26:21 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"

wrote:

Well, at least you admit that you're a loser.

Yeah, I guess that would mean that Bob is less of a loser than you because
he is
still at least man enough to admit it. Thanks for the clarification!

BB


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
So, what you're trying to say is that you lost???

Yes, you are clearly KING of the idiots.

We all tremble before your might idiocy.

Bwahahahaha!

RB