Poor Scotty....again!
 

This will really bust his nut!!!!

Here are the nice little gifts from Suzanne...the Minolta Z1 with 10X optical
Zoom....and the nifty and tiny Sony Cybershot U30-half the size of a pack of
cigarettes or so!

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/camera1.jpg

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/camera2.jpg

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

The only nut your busting is yours by going to all the trouble to take what I
assume are photos of "things" and then take the time out of your day to post
the crap. Get a life dimwit.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Poor Scotty....again!
 

The only nut your busting is yours by going to all the trouble to take what I
assume are photos of "things" and then take the time out of your day to post
the crap. Get a life dimwit.


Holy ironic loser, Batman! Mr. Loco is more obvious than the Penguin!

Bwahahahahahaa!

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Forget it loco... the camera is a piece of garbage. If he thinks it's good,
let him alone.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
The only nut your busting is yours by going to all the trouble to take
what I
assume are photos of "things" and then take the time out of your day to
post
the crap. Get a life dimwit.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Forget it loco... the camera is a piece of garbage. If he thinks it's good,
let him alone.


Minolta Z1?? Better look up the reviews! It's better than my G2 and after one
use of it, I'm selling the G5 as well. It's focus and flash system are better
than any camera I've seen under 1K, including the G5 and high end Sonys.
For anyone who wants the best value in digitals out there...read this...

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/Z1/Z1A.HTM

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

His preoccupation with my nuts *is* a bit worrisome.

Scotty

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
The only nut your busting is yours by going to all the trouble to take
what I
assume are photos of "things" and then take the time out of your day to
post
the crap. Get a life dimwit.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Poor Scotty....again!
 

His preoccupation with my nuts *is* a bit worrisome.

I was only worried that using that word might "peak" your interest.
And it did.


RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Digital Photography Review is probably the best place on the web to get real
info on digital cameras.
If you want a real camera get a Canon EOS 10D
http://www.dpreview.com/

Here is an interesting review from a DiMage Z1 owner. You will probably
relate to the Wal-Mart thing

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read...pi nion=19780

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Digital Photography Review is probably the best place on the web to get real
info on digital cameras.
If you want a real camera get a Canon EOS 10D
http://www.dpreview.com/


Sadly, all of true HE reflex cameras are still second gen. units. Only
professional working photographer should bother with those. The truth is that
even a low cost Olympus D-360 takes fine pics. A G5 only does better if you
take the time to really learn the camera. For a boat-based unit, a Z1, Sony U30
or a weatherproof U60 or Stylus 400 make a lot more sense.
In the league of cameras costing under 1K, the Z1 offers a lot....10X optical
zoom, ability to shoot good quality video with sound, superior focus and
flash...for under 400.00.
Here's the end of the review...
Based on my testing, I can confidently say that the Minolta DiMAGE Z1 is one
of the best bargains on the market for a long-zoom digicam. I was quite
impressed though, with the way the Z1 combined a novice-friendly design with a
surprising array of advanced features to satisfy more expert users. The price
point, battery life, and shutter lag/cycle time performance are also
impressive. Minolta has a great track record for high-quality lenses on their
digicams, and the Z1's lens is no exception, turning in a better than average
performance for a long-zoom model, with good sharpness and low chromatic
aberration. The Z1's color was also very good, hue-accurate and appropriately
saturated, although I'd like to see it just a slight bit brighter. Contrast is
a little high, but a low-contrast option helps greatly on that score. All in
all, it's hard to find much to fault about the Z1, apart from the somewhat
"Buck Rogers"-styled case, which I don't personally care for. Highly
recommended

Poor Scotty....again!
 

It's an ugly camera. There are better ones out there and they look better
and are more user-friendly. The one you got is fine, but it's clunky looking
to say the least.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Forget it loco... the camera is a piece of garbage. If he thinks it's
good,
let him alone.


Minolta Z1?? Better look up the reviews! It's better than my G2 and after
one
use of it, I'm selling the G5 as well. It's focus and flash system are
better
than any camera I've seen under 1K, including the G5 and high end Sonys.
For anyone who wants the best value in digitals out there...read this...

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/Z1/Z1A.HTM

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Whew... it is kinda sick.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
His preoccupation with my nuts *is* a bit worrisome.

Scotty

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
The only nut your busting is yours by going to all the trouble to take
what I
assume are photos of "things" and then take the time out of your day to
post
the crap. Get a life dimwit.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Sort of like your chrome anchor....

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Digital Photography Review is probably the best place on the web to get
real
info on digital cameras.
If you want a real camera get a Canon EOS 10D
http://www.dpreview.com/


Sadly, all of true HE reflex cameras are still second gen. units. Only
professional working photographer should bother with those. The truth is
that
even a low cost Olympus D-360 takes fine pics. A G5 only does better if
you
take the time to really learn the camera. For a boat-based unit, a Z1,
Sony U30
or a weatherproof U60 or Stylus 400 make a lot more sense.
In the league of cameras costing under 1K, the Z1 offers a lot....10X
optical
zoom, ability to shoot good quality video with sound, superior focus and
flash...for under 400.00.
Here's the end of the review...
Based on my testing, I can confidently say that the Minolta DiMAGE Z1
is one
of the best bargains on the market for a long-zoom digicam. I was quite
impressed though, with the way the Z1 combined a novice-friendly design
with a
surprising array of advanced features to satisfy more expert users. The
price
point, battery life, and shutter lag/cycle time performance are also
impressive. Minolta has a great track record for high-quality lenses on
their
digicams, and the Z1's lens is no exception, turning in a better than
average
performance for a long-zoom model, with good sharpness and low chromatic
aberration. The Z1's color was also very good, hue-accurate and
appropriately
saturated, although I'd like to see it just a slight bit brighter.
Contrast is
a little high, but a low-contrast option helps greatly on that score. All
in
all, it's hard to find much to fault about the Z1, apart from the somewhat
"Buck Rogers"-styled case, which I don't personally care for. Highly
recommended

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Great review!

Cheers

Lem Bledsoe wrote:

Digital Photography Review is probably the best place on the web to get real
info on digital cameras.
If you want a real camera get a Canon EOS 10D
http://www.dpreview.com/

Here is an interesting review from a DiMage Z1 owner. You will probably
relate to the Wal-Mart thing

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read...pi nion=19780

Poor Scotty....again!
 

"Lem Bledsoe" wrote in message
...
Digital Photography Review is probably the best place on the web to get
real
info on digital cameras.
If you want a real camera get a Canon EOS 10D
http://www.dpreview.com/

Here is an interesting review from a DiMage Z1 owner. You will probably
relate to the Wal-Mart thing

Relate?? I think that Bob wrote it! Look at the previous sentence:-

"My most pressing concern was how it blended with my appearance,
did I look good while I was carrying it around? "

That is the very essence of Bobsprit, neatly distilled into one shallow
sentence.


Regards

Donal
--




http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read...minolta_dimage
z1&opinion=19780

Poor Scotty....again!
 

And the Z1 can also shoot up to 10 FPS!!
It can also (how many can do this??) shoot 30 FPS 640X480 movie mode with 8
minutes continous video on a 512 card! Or nearly an hour at low res with sound!
On my big screen TV it looks like VHS camcorder footage....smooth and clear!
How about a LCD with a 60 FPS refresh rate? How about the fastest AF system on
the market? How about one of the best flashes tested, even against 800 dollar
sony and Nikon!? How about a startup time of 2 seconds!?
Weaknesses? Sure. Construction is not even close to the G5. Lens is good but
not great, though very sharp. I don't love the little musical rifts it plays,
though they can be shut off.
I can't wait for a 5 or 6 MP version of this baby!

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

It's an ugly camera. There are better ones out there and they look better
and are more user-friendly. The one you got is fine, but it's clunky looking
to say the least.

An "ugly camera?" I think I care more about what it can do. try holding one.
Far better than most with it's grip and all of the controls are smartly placed.
I've used dozens of cameras and this is a fave for me now, especially after
owning much more expensive models.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

I do also, but it *is* an ugly camera. It's also large. Large for no reason.
It looks clunky, but I guess if it's chrome it must be good.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's an ugly camera. There are better ones out there and they look better
and are more user-friendly. The one you got is fine, but it's clunky
looking
to say the least.

An "ugly camera?" I think I care more about what it can do. try holding
one.
Far better than most with it's grip and all of the controls are smartly
placed.
I've used dozens of cameras and this is a fave for me now, especially
after
owning much more expensive models.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

It must be horrible to be so shallow. His paltry existence depends on
impressing this NG, which he has failed to do time & time again. Poor, poor
shallow bob.

SV

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Lem Bledsoe" wrote in message
...
Digital Photography Review is probably the best place on the web to get
real
info on digital cameras.
If you want a real camera get a Canon EOS 10D
http://www.dpreview.com/

Here is an interesting review from a DiMage Z1 owner. You will probably
relate to the Wal-Mart thing

Relate?? I think that Bob wrote it! Look at the previous sentence:-

"My most pressing concern was how it blended with my appearance,
did I look good while I was carrying it around? "

That is the very essence of Bobsprit, neatly distilled into one shallow
sentence.


Regards

Donal
--





http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read...minolta_dimage
z1&opinion=19780

Poor Scotty....again!
 

I'd buy the new 8 mega pixel Sony.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Poor Scotty....again!
 

I'd buy the new 8 mega pixel Sony.


It's resolution is useless unless you have a very high end printer. Nice camera
though.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Ya don't know what I have, do ya?

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote ...


I was only worried that you have a better canera than me.


RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

That is an exceptionally stupid comment. Until now, I thought that this might
be one topic that you at least knew something about, but I guess not.

If all you intend to do is send the pictures directly from the camera to the
printing service at Wal-Mart, you might be right, but if you have any intention
of cropping and processing, the extra pixels are a boon. I thought there might
be a downside to going up to 5 Meg on my G5, but I haven't found it yet.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I'd buy the new 8 mega pixel Sony.


It's resolution is useless unless you have a very high end printer. Nice
camera
though.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

That is an exceptionally stupid comment. Until now, I thought that this might
be one topic that you at least knew something about, but I guess not.

Jeff, I am selling my G5. I already sold the G2. They both excel on manual
settings, but fall short on automatic and always had focus issues. The manual
focus on both is poor. With the Speedlite, they are much better, but that's a
lot to carry around.
Wanna explain how 8MP makes a diff on the average HP or Epson photo printer?
There was NO visible diff between prints in the G2 and G5, unless extremely
cropped. And the 10X zoom on the new breed of cameras just makes them far more
flexible.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

but if you have any intention
of cropping and processing, the extra pixels are a boon.


How much cropping do you need? A longer Zoom retains full resolution with less
cropping.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

We're discussin cameras, dipwad.

SV

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:42:57 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

Ya don't know what I have, do ya?

SV


If it itches real bad, it's likely Herpes.

BB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

We're discussin cameras, dipwad.


Poor bitter, angry, dissapointed Scotty.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

If you had been a little more careful were you dipped your wad, you
wouldn't have Herpes.


Dang! Scotty used to be clever enough to avoid getting the door slammed on his
nose.
He's just too bitter and angry now.
A Siedlemann will do that to ya!

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Gadzooks!!!!!!!

Poor Scotty just admitted that optically zooming in reduces MP capture!!!

Bwahahahahaa!

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Gadzooks!!!!!!!


"Bobsprit" wrote


How much cropping do you need? A longer Zoom retains full resolution with
less
cropping.

ReBob

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Yes, I'm poor, and dissapointed in you. But I'm not bitter or angry.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
We're discussin cameras, dipwad.


Poor bitter, angry, dissapointed Scotty.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

How much cropping do you need?

That's a stupid question. As much as you can get, until you run out of optical
quality. You can never tell where the picture really is - more pixels gives you
more opportunities.


A longer Zoom retains full resolution with less
cropping.

I'd rather have the same possibilities with "digital zoom," framed after the
fact. Its pretty clear you're just a snapshot shooter, so you probably made the
right choice.


RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Well, that's better than too bitchy... more like what bob has experience
with...

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:13:53 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

Yes, I'm poor, and dissapointed in you. But I'm not bitter or angry.


Just really itchy!

BB

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
We're discussin cameras, dipwad.


Poor bitter, angry, dissapointed Scotty.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

That's a stupid question. As much as you can get, until you run out of optical
quality.

Sorry, Jeff. I worked professionally with large format cameras for Finely Photo
and as still photographer for catalogue. Cropping is something to be used
sparingly. Learn to compose your photos. 8 mp is just not going to show up
unless you have professional printing gear. On my my very nice HP photo
printer, 8X10s look fantastic from G2, G5, Z1 and even the little Sony U30 can
make a reasonable print at that size. 3mp is really all you need and anything
above 4-5 is just silly. Sell the G5 as I am. These 3 and 4x lens models are
about to go the way of the dinosaur.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Bobsprit wrote:

Gadzooks!!!!!!!

Poor Scotty just admitted that optically zooming in reduces MP capture!!!

Bwahahahahaa!

RB

Bob, I think it's time you took a course in basic reading comprehension,
oops, sorry about that, I'll try it with words of fewer syllables, "Basic
English Reading Skills".

Cheers
Marty

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Bob, I think it's time you took a course in basic reading comprehension,
oops, sorry about that, I'll try it with words of fewer syllables, "Basic
English Reading Skills".


There are at least 4 basic English errors in the comment, shown above.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Bob is bitchy. Scotty is itchy.

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:12:46 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Well, that's better than too bitchy... more like what bob has experience
with...


My guess is that being so itchy is what made Scotty bitchy.

BB

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:13:53 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

Yes, I'm poor, and dissapointed in you. But I'm not bitter or angry.


Just really itchy!

BB

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
We're discussin cameras, dipwad.


Poor bitter, angry, dissapointed Scotty.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Bobsprit wrote:

Bob, I think it's time you took a course in basic reading comprehension,
oops, sorry about that, I'll try it with words of fewer syllables, "Basic
English Reading Skills".

There are at least 4 basic English errors in the comment, shown above.

RB

Well at least we know you're not Jax.

Cheers
Marty

Poor Scotty....again!
 

I worked as a pro when you were still in diapers. My first digital camera cost
$250,000,000, and I can tell you the most interesting finds were off axis. (It
had 4 Megapixels in 1978, and could see the edge of the galaxy.) For fashion
shoots you know exactly what the picture is before you take it, for sports and
action shots, you're often shooting blind and don't know what you have until you
look at the results. BTW, I have the telephoto lens for the G5 (Santa was good
to me, too) so I have 7X zoom.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
That's a stupid question. As much as you can get, until you run out of
optical
quality.

Sorry, Jeff. I worked professionally with large format cameras for Finely
Photo
and as still photographer for catalogue. Cropping is something to be used
sparingly. Learn to compose your photos. 8 mp is just not going to show up
unless you have professional printing gear. On my my very nice HP photo
printer, 8X10s look fantastic from G2, G5, Z1 and even the little Sony U30 can
make a reasonable print at that size. 3mp is really all you need and anything
above 4-5 is just silly. Sell the G5 as I am. These 3 and 4x lens models are
about to go the way of the dinosaur.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

I think you're going to need to talk to either bob or
look in the mirror. You two seem obsessed with
his body.

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:49:30 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Bob is bitchy. Scotty is itchy.


If Scotty is itchy, it's only a matter of time before you become itchy
as well. That is... if you aren't already.

BB

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:12:46 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Well, that's better than too bitchy... more like what bob has
experience
with...


My guess is that being so itchy is what made Scotty bitchy.

BB

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:13:53 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

Yes, I'm poor, and dissapointed in you. But I'm not bitter or
angry.


Just really itchy!

BB

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
We're discussin cameras, dipwad.


Poor bitter, angry, dissapointed Scotty.

RB

Poor Scotty....again!
 

Not too far off - but I based my claim on the fact that I did some news pics in
the 60's and Booby probably had a bed wetting problem into his teens.



wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:39:51 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

I worked as a pro when you were still in diapers.

I guess that means you are about due to start wearing diapers yourself, then.

BB