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That's a stupid question. As much as you can get, until you run out of optical
quality.

Sorry, Jeff. I worked professionally with large format cameras for Finely Photo
and as still photographer for catalogue. Cropping is something to be used
sparingly. Learn to compose your photos. 8 mp is just not going to show up
unless you have professional printing gear. On my my very nice HP photo
printer, 8X10s look fantastic from G2, G5, Z1 and even the little Sony U30 can
make a reasonable print at that size. 3mp is really all you need and anything
above 4-5 is just silly. Sell the G5 as I am. These 3 and 4x lens models are
about to go the way of the dinosaur.

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I worked as a pro when you were still in diapers. My first digital camera cost
$250,000,000, and I can tell you the most interesting finds were off axis. (It
had 4 Megapixels in 1978, and could see the edge of the galaxy.) For fashion
shoots you know exactly what the picture is before you take it, for sports and
action shots, you're often shooting blind and don't know what you have until you
look at the results. BTW, I have the telephoto lens for the G5 (Santa was good
to me, too) so I have 7X zoom.



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That's a stupid question. As much as you can get, until you run out of

optical
quality.

Sorry, Jeff. I worked professionally with large format cameras for Finely

Photo
and as still photographer for catalogue. Cropping is something to be used
sparingly. Learn to compose your photos. 8 mp is just not going to show up
unless you have professional printing gear. On my my very nice HP photo
printer, 8X10s look fantastic from G2, G5, Z1 and even the little Sony U30 can
make a reasonable print at that size. 3mp is really all you need and anything
above 4-5 is just silly. Sell the G5 as I am. These 3 and 4x lens models are
about to go the way of the dinosaur.

RB



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For fashion
shoots you know exactly what the picture is before you take it, for sports and
action shots, you're often shooting blind and don't know what you have until
you
look at the results.

If you're shooting blind, let's hope you're not on full automatic. What do you
lose when you crop, Jeff? Any camera above 3 MP allows reasonable cropping. And
few people own a printer to use 8MP. It's a marketing joke.

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Bobsprit wrote:

For fashion
shoots you know exactly what the picture is before you take it, for sports and
action shots, you're often shooting blind and don't know what you have until
you
look at the results.

If you're shooting blind, let's hope you're not on full automatic. What do you
lose when you crop, Jeff? Any camera above 3 MP allows reasonable cropping. And
few people own a printer to use 8MP. It's a marketing joke.




Even a lowly 600 dpi on an 8x12 is 34,560,000 dots. Seems a few more
than an 8MP camera wouldn't you say?

Cheers

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Even a lowly 600 dpi on an 8x12 is 34,560,000 dots. Seems a few more
than an 8MP camera wouldn't you say?

Have you actually ever made a high res print with various cameras? Have you
ever owned a good digital?
At the "best" settings, 8X10's on the HP7760 there's no visible diff in detail
with the Z1 and the G5. Yet there's a near 2 MP diff between the two cameras.
Only on the U30 (sony at 2.0 mp) is there a decernable loss of detail. The test
comes out the same when I print via G4 to Canon I860.
I suggest you try it, as I have.

RB


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My printer is 1200 dpi and without smoothing you can see pixels.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Even a lowly 600 dpi on an 8x12 is 34,560,000 dots. Seems a few more
than an 8MP camera wouldn't you say?

Have you actually ever made a high res print with various cameras? Have you
ever owned a good digital?
At the "best" settings, 8X10's on the HP7760 there's no visible diff in detail
with the Z1 and the G5. Yet there's a near 2 MP diff between the two cameras.
Only on the U30 (sony at 2.0 mp) is there a decernable loss of detail. The test
comes out the same when I print via G4 to Canon I860.
I suggest you try it, as I have.

RB


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My printer is 1200 dpi and without smoothing you can see pixels.

No doubt. Get a good printer and get back to me.

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BTW, I have the telephoto lens for the G5 (Santa was good
to me, too) so I have 7X zoom.


Your camera is WAY heavy...I know! With the Canon tele it's even heavier.
The Z1 has 10X and just does a LOT things better. My friend bought one and I
was a skeptic...until I tried it out. 4-5 MP, lens stabilizer will make it near
perfect as a consumer camera.
The Z1 simply outshot the Canon due to it's superior engineering. Now...the G2
or G5 are BETTER cameras IF you take the time on manual settings. Optics are
excellent. But for casual shooting the Minolta Z1 and the 10X entry from
Olympus eat it for breakfast.
Before getting your panties in a bunch I suggest you test one. Sold the G2 to a
diver---they're great for that and the G5 will be sold next week to a friend
for 475.00. He also dives.

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And jeff, here's another nice thing about the Z1 that we'll see more and
more...it shoots GOOD video with sound. Very nice for on board shooting. You'll
need a few big memory cards. You get 8 minutes on a 512 card, but that's more
than I shoot with the 3 CCD sony, which I'll now leave safely at home....
Unless Scotty robs me!

RB
 
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