What makes a boat weatherly?
 

When will you remember the subject of the thread. Man are you dumb. the
discussion is about weatherliness (see the header). It's how close to
the wind can you sail anything that creates more lift helps. That's the
point.

Let me spell it out: We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness. Are
you finally admitting you don't understnad the difference?

Cheers



DSK wrote:


MC wrote:


Yes he does, he now agrees that the rudder gives lift with weather helm.
Read it again carefully.


*You* read it again carefully, stupid.



When will you remember the subject of the thread.

Man are you dumb. The discussion is about weatherliness (see the header).
It's how close to the wind can you sail. Anything that creates more lift
at the tightest sheeting angle
helps. That's the point.

Let me spell it out: We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness.
Are you finally admitting you don't understand the difference?

Cheers

What Matt said was the the drag caused by the rudder angle was more of a penalty on
forward velocity than the lift was a gain in VMG.

It's not a racing question Doug.

In his second statement, he said
that the geometry was such that the rudder's lift produced torque. Do you know what
*that* means?

Are you saying that the keels lift does not?

Cheers

What makes a boat weatherly?
 

MC wrote:

... We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness.

Actually, we were discussing both.

Are
you finally admitting you don't understnad the difference?

Sure. I need a good laugh today, go ahead and explain.

DSK

What makes a boat weatherly?
 

OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:35:15 -0500, DSK
scribbled thusly:


MC wrote:


... We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness.

Actually, we were discussing both.


My assumption was that weatherliness was tha ability of a yacht to
make ground to windward.
Any yacht can be stuffed up close to the wind with sails set and not
go anywhere, thew ability to actually _sail_ to windward is what is
required.



Exactly. Having a high VMG does not indicate weatherliness at all. Do
you agree?

Cheers

What makes a boat weatherly?
 

DSK wrote:

MC wrote:


... We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness.


Actually, we were discussing both.


No WE weren't. Look at the thread title. I suggest the issue of VMG was
brought up to try to cover Matt's not knowing about rudder lift adding
to weatherliness.


Are
you finally admitting you don't understnad the difference?


Sure. I need a good laugh today, go ahead and explain.


At last! Go back and revise the thread. you'll get it eventually.

What makes a boat weatherly?
 

wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:58:09 +1300, MC wrote:



OzOne wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:35:15 -0500, DSK
scribbled thusly:



MC wrote:



... We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness.

Actually, we were discussing both.


My assumption was that weatherliness was tha ability of a yacht to
make ground to windward.
Any yacht can be stuffed up close to the wind with sails set and not
go anywhere, thew ability to actually _sail_ to windward is what is
required.



Exactly. Having a high VMG does not indicate weatherliness at all. Do
you agree?

Cheers


DSK's boat points better than any sailboat, so I guess he wins the "weatherly"
contest, even if in the end it means he's a failed sailor.


Are you saying it sails to windward? I thought it just makes lots of
noise and smells while rolling like a pig.

Cheers

What makes a boat weatherly?
 

wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:29:51 +1300, MC wrote:



wrote:


On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:58:09 +1300, MC wrote:



OzOne wrote:


On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:35:15 -0500, DSK
scribbled thusly:




MC wrote:




... We were not discussing VMG but weatherliness.

Actually, we were discussing both.


My assumption was that weatherliness was tha ability of a yacht to
make ground to windward.
Any yacht can be stuffed up close to the wind with sails set and not
go anywhere, thew ability to actually _sail_ to windward is what is
required.



Exactly. Having a high VMG does not indicate weatherliness at all. Do
you agree?

Cheers


DSK's boat points better than any sailboat, so I guess he wins the "weatherly"
contest, even if in the end it means he's a failed sailor.


Are you saying it sails to windward? I thought it just makes lots of
noise and smells while rolling like a pig.



It requires comparatively NO skill to operate compared to a sail boat of similar
size, and will move in what ever direction you desire, just like driving a car.
Doug gave up sailing because despite his postings in usenet, he was a lousy
sailor, and it really just wasn't working out. In truth, sailing scares him. He
needed something less threatening. He found an alternative that works for him.
It's almost a houseboat, but he can still claim to be a "sailor", at least in
his own mind.


I din't know he had lice as well as smelling awful!

Cheers

What makes a boat weatherly?
 

According to the online dictionary, that's the definition... doesn't say
anything about VMG, but I agree with you, except if there's a fat
slob on the boat.

\Weath"er*ly\, a. (Naut.) Working, or able to sail, close to the wind; as, a
weatherly ship. --Cooper.

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:58:09 +1300, MC scribbled
thusly:



My assumption was that weatherliness was tha ability of a yacht to
make ground to windward.
Any yacht can be stuffed up close to the wind with sails set and not
go anywhere, thew ability to actually _sail_ to windward is what is
required.



Exactly. Having a high VMG does not indicate weatherliness at all. Do
you agree?

Cheers

Hmmm weatherliness indicates a yachts ability to sail close to the
wind...SAIL close.
It is debatable if a weatherly boat will then make better VMG.
IMHO it would.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.