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![]() "DSK" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: Are you suggesting that the kayaker would be putting others in danger? It's easily possible. If a ship ran aground (or hit some other obstacle) trying to dodge one, the results could be bad. Do you think that a commercial vessel travelling at 25 kts, without a lookout- in fog - would pose a smaller threat to the general public than a kayak? IMHO 25 knots and fog is not good, regardless of the lookout. The point that Jeff and Jon and I have been trying to make is that taking a small boat with poor radar return and little chance of evading ship traffc, into a shipping lane in fog, leaves no way to comply properly with ColRegs or for that matter good seamanship. I don't disagree with you. However Jeff has been saying that the kayak "has no business" there. I strongly disagree with that statement. A kayak could easily find itself in a position where it had no choice in the matter. TSS lanes can be 5 miles wide, with 10 miles between them. Fog can descend when it is not expected. The CollRegs (IMHO) accept that the unexpected can happen. That is why the CollRegs never assign a right of way. It is *always* the duty of any vessel to avoid a collision. Regards Donal -- DSK |