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![]() Rick wrote: otnmbrd wrote: I am not questioning the "right" of the kayaker to cross a TSS, just the prudence of doing so in a fog and whether the rules may in fact say/imply/etc., that they shouldn't. I never recommended it as a pleasant weekend family activity. I wouldn't do it. As far as the quality of the ear and eye, there is a century of (mostly) successful zero vis high speed navigation up an down the inside passage between Seattle and Alaska. Those waters were heavily populated with small tugs, dugout canoes, fishboats, skiffs and all manner of small and ill equipped vessels. There are a few notable exceptions to that record but only a few out of tens of thousands of uneventful passages through some of the most restricted waters on the planet speaks to the value of the eye and ear. G A different time, of many fewer boats and the majority who did it as a profession, not a weekend recreation. We can talk of all those who made these trips, but we can't ignore all those who tried and failed, because they had limited resources. But the point is it is not illegal and that is what the argument was about. The mere presence of the kayak is not a violation of any regulation. Here we could disagree. If the kayak, without radio, approaches a known TSS, in fog, and continues on across that TSS, then, it may not be illegal, it may not violate a regulation, but it definitely goes against the issues of good judgment, common sense, good seamanship, and prudent behavior, considering the conditions ..... which violates Rule 2. This whole thing started out because someone could not accept that some activities which they think are insane may be quite commonly performed and until something happens are not treated as foolhardy or imprudent. Rick This whole thing started out because someone could not accept that some activities which they think are insane may be quite commonly performed by some people with a higher degree of experience and equipment in some areas, but should not be attempted by the average operator of a recreational boat. What is totally foolhardy or imprudent to some, is not necessarily so for others, be they commercial or recreational boater. In addition, the interpretation of rule two and how it applies to actions one should, should not, could, could not, will, will not take, is open for discussion .... I personally put a high degree of emphasis on this particular rule, as I consider it the catch all, of all rules ..... if it isn't specifically written .... then Rule 2, covers it. otn |