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Doug will not admit he's wrong becuase if he did it would pop his bubble
of delusion. Cheers MC Rick wrote: DSK wrote: How about all your repetition of things like "As much as that upsets you, it is a fact" for statements that are not true. Which statements? Please quote the "not true" statements. Read my posts, Doug, let me know where you find factual error. Simple- your statement that a kayak has "every right" to do as he pleases in a shipping lane. Please quote that statement. Quote the post where I supposedly stated or even implied that the kayaker had no obligation to operate in accordance with COLREGS and VTS rules. Here's the quote you avoided including as it just doesn't seem to fit your agenda: "I am not "claiming the kayak has the right to go anywhere and do anything he pleases" I am stating that the kayaker has the right to maneuver where and how he pleases, just as you do, within the bounds of COLREGS and if in a VTS area, the rules applicable to that area." If you are going to play this game then you had better work a little harder at your reading and debating skills. So far all you have done is to make your position less comprehensible than it was to begin with. OK, do exactly that. Repost your statements about which rules the kayak has to follow, and what her obligations are. "Yes, the kayak has the same rights of navigation as the tanker within the COLREGS and VTS requirements." "I mean the kayaker has the same right to displace that water as the tanker operator. They must both adhere to the rules applicable to those waters and their operation upon them." "I mean the kayaker has every right to operate in or across the lanes subject to the VTS operating limitations and procedures and COLREGS." "You are ranting now. Please quote exactly where and when I said the kayaker has no obligation to follow the rules. I stated very plainly that both vessels are compelled to follow the rules." "The operator of that small boat without radar may be foolish or even foolhardy, or not, but the fact is that boat and operator have as much "business" being there as you or the QE2. " How many more do you need? For the reocord, you are completely correct and colregs certainly applies to kyaks. What is astonishing is that DSK cannot get head around where good seamanship starts and what colregs and other 'rules of the road' don't cover. Cheers |