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In article , Jeff Morris
wrote: "Rick" wrote in message link.net... Jeff Morris wrote: I appreciate that blame is is usually shared. But if a kayak crosses an oil tanker, what blame do you assign to tanker? Without being too pedantic, it is not in my job description to assign blame. There will be a board of Coast Guard officers to handle that chore. It will be a decision based on more than I know about the circumstances. In other words, you don't know. So what is a safe speed for a tanker in a VTS in the fog? You keep evading the question. Should all shipping shut down in the fog? By Donal's logic, there isn't a safe speed. Given that the time/distance taken for a tanker to stop/turn vastly exceeds the distance a human can see in thick fog, a tanker is always at risk of running over a kayaker insisting on being the stand-on vessel and therefore cannot navigate safely. So, yeah, Donal's basically arguing that shipping has to come to a standstill if the lookout can't *see* further than it takes the ship to stop or change course, because a kayak couldn't be reliably detected by radar. Nice thought, pity about its practicality. PDW |