"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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They say the war on terror is just making the risk of terrorism worse.
Thats it's increasing terrorism.

They think by killing and arresting terrorist we are just creating
more terrorist.

Joe, as usual, you have the wrong end of the stick. Try to read what I
actually write, instead of jumping to wild conclusions.

I agree that killing, and arresting terrorists will reduce terrorism.

Do you think saddam was not a terrorist?

Someone that has murdered an estimated 3 million of his fellow country
men.

Geee, if thats not a terrorist I do not know what one is Donal.


Do you agree that killing innocent civilians will create great resentment?


Yes, But who should they resent? The guys trying to kill the
terrorist, or the terrorist that chose to fight in an urban enviroment
and put them at risk?

I know if our president murdered 3 million of my fellow country men I
would gladly be killed by accident if you brits were trying to get
him. I would understand and forgive you, I would wish you success and
have no ill feeling towards you. Can you understand that concept?



If thats true we should stop arresting thiefs, murders, rapist, child
molestors evil dictaters ect..ect...ect... We are just creating more.

You are beginning to sound a bit rabid.

Nobody is trying to tell you that you shouldn't go after terrorists.

So now your supporting the USA efforts?


Honestly!



What world are these idiots living on? htrae.

How backwards can you get.

! pu ekaw lanoD yeh

That is about as backward as it gets. ..And *you* wrote it!!!!!


I wanted to make sure you could read it.
Regards

Donal
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Regards,

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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I agree that killing, and arresting terrorists will reduce terrorism.

Do you think saddam was not a terrorist?

Someone that has murdered an estimated 3 million of his fellow country
men.

Wonderful! You say "estimated??" What kind of evidence is that?

How long was Saddam in power for? 20 years??
Each year, 28,000 people get killed by guns in the US. In a 20 year period
that will be 560,000!

In other words, about a sixth of the deaths that you accuse Saddam of.

Bush *knows* this, and yet he does nothing to stop it.

Now, I can see that you will say that Saddam is responsible for six times as
many deaths as Bush.

However, Saddam only started two wars in 20 years. Bush has started 2 wars
in three years. How many people have died in those wars?

If Bush carries on, he will soon catch up with Saddam. BTW, Bush has been
making worrying noises about Syria, N. Korea and Iran. He isn't short of
ideas!!





Geee, if thats not a terrorist I do not know what one is Donal.

I know that you don't. Someone who launches a war against a sovereign
state on a false pretext, and in defiance of the UN, is a terrorist.



Do you agree that killing innocent civilians will create great
resentment?


Yes, But who should they resent? The guys trying to kill the
terrorist, or the terrorist that chose to fight in an urban enviroment
and put them at risk?

I know if our president murdered 3 million of my fellow country men I
would gladly be killed by accident if you brits were trying to get
him. I would understand and forgive you, I would wish you success and
have no ill feeling towards you. Can you understand that concept?

I understand what you are saying. I don't think that the woman who sees
her husband killed and her 11 y/o son crippled for mis-understanding the
instructions at a roadblock, will see it the same way.




Nobody is trying to tell you that you shouldn't go after terrorists.

So now your supporting the USA efforts?

I supported them in Afghanistan.... not in Iraq.



Regards


Donal
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"Donal" donut@ liberal ****** .com wrote

Each year, 28,000 people get killed by guns in the US. In a 20 year
period
that will be 560,000!


Bush *knows* this, and yet he does nothing to stop it.


What would you suggest he do?


Each year 186,000 people get killed on the road. In a 20 year period that
will be 3,720,000!

And Bush knows this, too.

SV

These deaths are easy to fix. Unfortunately, they're expensive both in $$
and politics.

Fix for gun-related deaths... a number of thing to reducce the carnage...
require gun locks on all new handguns made or imported into the US,
legalize drugs, which will decrease the gang-related deaths (not that I
care), increase the general level of education and improve the economy..
(crime in general has risen since Bushy took office, yet fell I believe
every year Clinton was in office).

Fix for highway deaths... get car manufactures to devise better cars
that have more collision avoidence technology, improve the protection
inside the vehicle, for larger SUV owners to pay hefty fees to own one
(good for the environment also), make the bumpers a standard size
(this one is in the works actually), set a speed limit and strictly enforce
it (65, 75, doesn't matter) and reintroduce the minimum speed limit, and
put more cops on the streets (works for gun-deaths too).

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Donal" donut@ liberal ****** .com wrote

Each year, 28,000 people get killed by guns in the US. In a 20 year
period
that will be 560,000!


Bush *knows* this, and yet he does nothing to stop it.


What would you suggest he do?


Each year 186,000 people get killed on the road. In a 20 year period that
will be 3,720,000!

And Bush knows this, too.

SV

" Ganz" Another Stupid wrote

Fix for gun-related deaths... a number of thing to reducce the carnage...
require gun locks on all new handguns made or imported into the US,


Yup, putting locks on houses has stopped burglury, Right?


SV

Yup, putting locks on houses has stopped burglury, Right?


Yup, especially if you buy really good locks and security. My alarm system cost
more than your boat.

Actually, the remote for the alarm cost more than your boat!

Actually, the batteries for the remote for the alarm cost more than you boat!

Actually, the drive to the store for the batteries....


Oh, never mind.


RB

That's a shame. I live where there's no need for alarms and locks.

Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Bob****" wrote ...
Yup, putting locks on houses has stopped burglury, Right?


Yup, especially if you buy really good locks and security. My alarm system
cost
more than your boat.

"Jonathan Ganz" nonsense@liberal ******.com wrote ...

Fix for highway deaths... get car manufactures to devise better cars
that have more collision avoidence technology,

collision avoidence technology? WTF don't you learn how to drive!

for larger SUV owners to pay hefty fees to own one

they do, gas tax.

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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I agree that killing, and arresting terrorists will reduce terrorism.

Do you think saddam was not a terrorist?

Someone that has murdered an estimated 3 million of his fellow country
men.

Wonderful! You say "estimated??" What kind of evidence is that?

How long was Saddam in power for? 20 years??

27 to be exact. Truly he was in power longer. He had his couison
appointed president for 3 years before he gave the position to Saddam,
But the whole time he was in power and his cous was just a stooge.


Each year, 28,000 people get killed by guns in the US. In a 20 year period
that will be 560,000!

yeah and we just plow the under in mass graves.


In other words, about a sixth of the deaths that you accuse Saddam of.


Bush *knows* this, and yet he does nothing to stop it.

Now, I can see that you will say that Saddam is responsible for six times as
many deaths as Bush.

However, Saddam only started two wars in 20 years. Bush has started 2 wars
in three years. How many people have died in those wars?

If Bush carries on, he will soon catch up with Saddam. BTW, Bush has been
making worrying noises about Syria, N. Korea and Iran. He isn't short of
ideas!!

Great, Syrian N. Korea and Iran need to change. The dictator thing
is so passa. It time for all men and women to have freedom on earth.
Its a god given right.





Geee, if thats not a terrorist I do not know what one is Donal.

I know that you don't. Someone who launches a war against a sovereign
state on a false pretext, and in defiance of the UN, is a terrorist.



Guess you forgot about the UN resoluion 121. Ever member of the UN
signed it.
Nothoing false about it.


Do you agree that killing innocent civilians will create great
resentment?


Yes, But who should they resent? The guys trying to kill the
terrorist, or the terrorist that chose to fight in an urban enviroment
and put them at risk?

I know if our president murdered 3 million of my fellow country men I
would gladly be killed by accident if you brits were trying to get
him. I would understand and forgive you, I would wish you success and
have no ill feeling towards you. Can you understand that concept?

I understand what you are saying. I don't think that the woman who sees
her husband killed and her 11 y/o son crippled for mis-understanding the
instructions at a roadblock, will see it the same way.


That is truly oneof the sad situations of war donel. If Saddam had
allowed the inspectors to inspect, and followed the UN res those
people would not have died. If you must blame someone blame Saddam for
it, it's his fault.




Nobody is trying to tell you that you shouldn't go after terrorists.

So now your supporting the USA efforts?

I supported them in Afghanistan.... not in Iraq.



Regards


Donal
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Joe

"Joe" wrote
"Donal" wrote
Each year, 28,000 people get killed by guns in the US. In a 20 year
period
that will be 560,000!

Where did you (Donal?) dream up that number? The FBI's Crime in the United
States estimated that 63% of the 15,980 US murders in 2001 were committed
with firearms. That's 10,067, less than half your dream estimate. And
before you say that 10,000 is still too many remember that our MDs' "medical
misadventures" kill some 125,000 per year and like Saddam bury their
victims.

Are they terrorists or just grossly incompetent?

Another thot: every time I see a celebration in some "repressed
dictatorship" in the news I see poor enslaved citizens firing off their
fully automatic assault rifles into the air and wonder about why all of us
free peoples in the UK and America who are not allowed to possess such
weapons.