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Neal has insisted that my complaints of his "rules" are just nit picking.
Here's a few of the nits: Errors of Omission -- Neal forgot to mention a few of the basic concepts, such as: Everyone must always avoid collisions Every vessel must keep a lookout Every vessel must always proceed at a safe speed, taking into account conditions, traffic, the nature of the boat, etc. He also forgot other rules most consider useful, such as: For powerboats head-on, alter course to the right. For powerboats crossing, the vessel on the left shall keep clear. And of course, he neglected to mention that in thick fog, every vessel is must slow or even stop when hearing a signal that might imply a chance of collision. Although a description of lights is probably beyond a basic rules lesson, it is worth mentioning that all vessels must have lights at night. A particular point, in US inland waters, all power vessels, no matter how small, must have running lights. Emphasizing useless info -- Neal description of the "pecking order" is meaningless to the novice. For example, any NUC showing signals is likely to be a large ship that a small vessel should avoid anyways. The beginner would be better advised to avoid all commercial traffic. Outright blunders -- Neal claims NUCs have priority over RAMs. Totally wrong. Neal claims "all vessels" are represented in the pecking order. The largest class of boats, vessels under oars or paddles, are never mentioned. Faulty explanation -- Neal explains at length his belief that the rules are completely different in narrow channels. In truth, small vessels have the added responsibility not to impede vessels that can only maneuver in within a channel, but they do not lose their standing in the pecking order. His particular example: "a power boat is coming ..., you are the give-way vessel" is incorrect, especially if the power vessel is not actually restricted. His description of the sailing rules is not too bad, but he doesn't explain the meaning of "upwind vessel," a point we know is confusing to beginners. Also, his explanation of "starboard tack" is not quite correct. In fact, its hard to find a major aspect of the rules that Neal did get correct. He did spell his name right. We think. |
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![]() Debunked, debunked, bebunked! See comments interspersed below. "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... Neal has insisted that my complaints of his "rules" are just nit picking. Here's a few of the nits: Errors of Omission -- Neal forgot to mention a few of the basic concepts, such as: Everyone must always avoid collisions Every vessel must keep a lookout Every vessel must always proceed at a safe speed, taking into account conditions, traffic, the nature of the boat, etc. He also forgot other rules most consider useful, such as: For powerboats head-on, alter course to the right. For powerboats crossing, the vessel on the left shall keep clear. And of course, he neglected to mention that in thick fog, every vessel is must slow or even stop when hearing a signal that might imply a chance of collision. Although a description of lights is probably beyond a basic rules lesson, it is worth mentioning that all vessels must have lights at night. A particular point, in US inland waters, all power vessels, no matter how small, must have running lights. The ONLY way I could avoid omitting something would have been to print the text of the COLREGS. Since this is available elsewhere on the Internet, why should I bother? I chose instead to print a Novice Lesson for sailors (screw the motorheads) that cut to the quick so even novices sailors could grasp the intent and basic rules of the COLREGS that primarily concerned them. From feedback I have received I would say I succeeded admirably. Emphasizing useless info -- Neal description of the "pecking order" is meaningless to the novice. For example, any NUC showing signals is likely to be a large ship that a small vessel should avoid anyways. The beginner would be better advised to avoid all commercial traffic. This is a matter of opinion. Your opinion does not present a valid argument for me to include it in my Novice Lessons. Outright blunders -- Neal claims NUCs have priority over RAMs. Totally wrong. NUC is higher in the pecking order than RAMs and that's a fact. Neal claims "all vessels" are represented in the pecking order. The largest class of boats, vessels under oars or paddles, are never mentioned. Sorry, but the largest class of vessels by far is motor vessels. Faulty explanation -- Neal explains at length his belief that the rules are completely different in narrow channels. In truth, small vessels have the added responsibility not to impede vessels that can only maneuver in within a channel, but they do not lose their standing in the pecking order. His particular example: "a power boat is coming ..., you are the give-way vessel" is incorrect, especially if the power vessel is not actually restricted. You are wrong. The Rules say you shall not impede any vessel proceeding in a narrow channel by crossing said channel in such a way as to impede. This is one case where a small sailboat does not have the right of way over a motor vessel. His description of the sailing rules is not too bad, but he doesn't explain the meaning of "upwind vessel," a point we know is confusing to beginners. Also, his explanation of "starboard tack" is not quite correct. Anybody but some fool motor boat operator knows full well what upwind means. You proved my picky, picky, picky contention by your failure to list one serious error in my fine Novice Lesson concerning the Rules as pertains to the sailor. You only succeeded in wasting your time as well as my time reiterating the same old crap that has no bearing other than your poor ego being hurt by my award- winning web site. |
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"Simple Simon" wrote: The ONLY way I could avoid omitting something would have been to print the text of the COLREGS. Since this is available elsewhere on the Internet, why should I bother? I chose instead to print a Novice Lesson for sailors (screw the motorheads) that cut to the quick so even novices sailors could grasp the intent and basic rules of the COLREGS that primarily concerned them. From feedback I have received I would say I succeeded admirably. Here's some feedback - You failed miserably. If the CG ever saw your "rules" they'd revoke your license in a minute. Oh, I forgot, you don't have one anymore. .... Outright blunders -- Neal claims NUCs have priority over RAMs. Totally wrong. NUC is higher in the pecking order than RAMs and that's a fact. Oh really?? Where does it say that? There is no place in the rules where RAMs are told to stay out of the way of NUCs. Further, it makes no sense, since a NUC may only be slightly disabled, yet a RAM could be a dredge or cable layer, comletely unable to move. Anyone that passed the test would know this one. Neal claims "all vessels" are represented in the pecking order. The largest class of boats, vessels under oars or paddles, are never mentioned. Sorry, but the largest class of vessels by far is motor vessels. Since rowboats and kayaks are generally unregistered, its hard to get stats. However, its clear from the limited stats available that human powered vessel greatly outnumber aux sailboats and sail only boats. They may not be larger than any pecking order group, but they're larger than all but one. Faulty explanation -- Neal explains at length his belief that the rules are completely different in narrow channels. In truth, small vessels have the added responsibility not to impede vessels that can only maneuver in within a channel, but they do not lose their standing in the pecking order. His particular example: "a power boat is coming ..., you are the give-way vessel" is incorrect, especially if the power vessel is not actually restricted. You are wrong. The Rules say you shall not impede any vessel proceeding in a narrow channel by crossing said channel in such a way as to impede. This is one case where a small sailboat does not have the right of way over a motor vessel. Indeed the sailboat may not impede. However, it still has right-of-way, to use the old terminology. They way you say it, all power boats have right-of-way over sail in a channel. This is simply not true. "Impede" doesn't have that meaning, and this only applies if the powerboat is truly restricted in the channel. His description of the sailing rules is not too bad, but he doesn't explain the meaning of "upwind vessel," a point we know is confusing to beginners. Also, his explanation of "starboard tack" is not quite correct. Anybody but some fool motor boat operator knows full well what upwind means. If two boats are going dead downwind, or by the lee, which one is "upwind"? Any sailor will tell you this is not obvious, especially to a beginner. You proved my picky, picky, picky contention by your failure to list one serious error in my fine Novice Lesson concerning the Rules as pertains to the sailor. Nonsense. Many sailors use power, especially in crowded situations where the full understanding of the rules is important. You probably use power more than sail Then why do you spend more than half of it explaining the pecking order? You only succeeded in wasting your time reviewing the rules is fun for me as well as my time reiterating the same old crap that has no bearing other than your poor ego being hurt by my award- winning web site. |