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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
"Ian Sandell" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:49 +0100, "Ric" wrote: They're sailing in the tropics and I'd imagine will be spending a lot of time swimming/diving and then showering with fresh, so they will probably use more than your consumption in the north Atlantic. In summer in the Med I get through about 60l per day though it would be nice to have 100l a day and just not have to ration it at all. How much? What do you do with 100l a day - bath in it? For showers, use sal****er shampoo, then rinse with a litre of fresh. Energy hogs are what we're talking about here. This is the type of person who owns a sailboat that NEVER stops running machinery of one sort of another. There is a noisy and smelly diesel generator going 24/7, there is a noisy wind generator or two. There are loud stereos blaring most of the night, dogs barking, people hollering, etc. Add to this anchor chains rattling in the middle of the night because the big noisy boat is dragging because no proper anchor is shipped. It's all about priorities. Anyone whose major concern is bathing and consuming ridiculous quantities of water and making a bad neighbor out of himself in any anchorage is no sailor. He's just another lubber extending his obnoxious act out onto the water where most people go to get away from his type and the lessening of quality of life he provides. S.Simon |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
Yeah I'm a landlubber - that's why I like swimming so much. Any fool can
sail all day on a teaspoon of water per day if they are scared of it. |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
As often as your boat moves, you will never need to worry about tieing next
to him, so why are you bitching. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Ian Sandell" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:49 +0100, "Ric" wrote: They're sailing in the tropics and I'd imagine will be spending a lot of time swimming/diving and then showering with fresh, so they will probably use more than your consumption in the north Atlantic. In summer in the Med I get through about 60l per day though it would be nice to have 100l a day and just not have to ration it at all. How much? What do you do with 100l a day - bath in it? For showers, use sal****er shampoo, then rinse with a litre of fresh. Energy hogs are what we're talking about here. This is the type of person who owns a sailboat that NEVER stops running machinery of one sort of another. There is a noisy and smelly diesel generator going 24/7, there is a noisy wind generator or two. There are loud stereos blaring most of the night, dogs barking, people hollering, etc. Add to this anchor chains rattling in the middle of the night because the big noisy boat is dragging because no proper anchor is shipped. It's all about priorities. Anyone whose major concern is bathing and consuming ridiculous quantities of water and making a bad neighbor out of himself in any anchorage is no sailor. He's just another lubber extending his obnoxious act out onto the water where most people go to get away from his type and the lessening of quality of life he provides. S.Simon |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
If you ever did anything but hang out here and post inane thoughts you might realize that when I get settled down in a nice, quiet, snug anchorage after a day's cruising be it in the Bahamas, the Keys or anywhere along the U.S. Gulf and East Coasts it's these noisy idiots who come in and anchor right on top of me that causes me to make valid observations about them and the pathetic, self-centered nature of their lubberly actions. S.Simon "The Carrolls" wrote in message news As often as your boat moves, you will never need to worry about tieing next to him, so why are you bitching. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Ian Sandell" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:49 +0100, "Ric" wrote: They're sailing in the tropics and I'd imagine will be spending a lot of time swimming/diving and then showering with fresh, so they will probably use more than your consumption in the north Atlantic. In summer in the Med I get through about 60l per day though it would be nice to have 100l a day and just not have to ration it at all. How much? What do you do with 100l a day - bath in it? For showers, use sal****er shampoo, then rinse with a litre of fresh. Energy hogs are what we're talking about here. This is the type of person who owns a sailboat that NEVER stops running machinery of one sort of another. There is a noisy and smelly diesel generator going 24/7, there is a noisy wind generator or two. There are loud stereos blaring most of the night, dogs barking, people hollering, etc. Add to this anchor chains rattling in the middle of the night because the big noisy boat is dragging because no proper anchor is shipped. It's all about priorities. Anyone whose major concern is bathing and consuming ridiculous quantities of water and making a bad neighbor out of himself in any anchorage is no sailor. He's just another lubber extending his obnoxious act out onto the water where most people go to get away from his type and the lessening of quality of life he provides. S.Simon |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... If you ever did anything but hang out here and post inane thoughts you might realize that when I get settled down in a nice, quiet, snug anchorage after a day's cruising be it in the Bahamas, the Keys or anywhere along the U.S. Gulf and East Coasts it's these noisy idiots who come in and anchor right on top of me that causes me to make valid observations about them and the pathetic, self-centered nature of their lubberly actions. I'd agree with you totally. There is nothing worse than people running generators or main motors to make electricity. But you can still run a watermaker on 12v - the Katadyn 40E makes 15l/hour on 12v/5A and the Livol makes 30l/hour on 12v/8A, both of which can therefore easily be powered by solar and fan. |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
But that idiot was talking about 50 to 100 liters a day per person
with four persons aboard. Making that much water takes a generator to provide that kind of energy. S.Simon "Ric" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... If you ever did anything but hang out here and post inane thoughts you might realize that when I get settled down in a nice, quiet, snug anchorage after a day's cruising be it in the Bahamas, the Keys or anywhere along the U.S. Gulf and East Coasts it's these noisy idiots who come in and anchor right on top of me that causes me to make valid observations about them and the pathetic, self-centered nature of their lubberly actions. I'd agree with you totally. There is nothing worse than people running generators or main motors to make electricity. But you can still run a watermaker on 12v - the Katadyn 40E makes 15l/hour on 12v/5A and the Livol makes 30l/hour on 12v/8A, both of which can therefore easily be powered by solar and fan. |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
You once said you could make water with an old beer keg, membrane and
waterdepth of over 700 feet. Didn't need electricity at all, according to you. "Simple Simon" wrote in message news But that idiot was talking about 50 to 100 liters a day per person with four persons aboard. Making that much water takes a generator to provide that kind of energy. S.Simon "Ric" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... If you ever did anything but hang out here and post inane thoughts you might realize that when I get settled down in a nice, quiet, snug anchorage after a day's cruising be it in the Bahamas, the Keys or anywhere along the U.S. Gulf and East Coasts it's these noisy idiots who come in and anchor right on top of me that causes me to make valid observations about them and the pathetic, self-centered nature of their lubberly actions. I'd agree with you totally. There is nothing worse than people running generators or main motors to make electricity. But you can still run a watermaker on 12v - the Katadyn 40E makes 15l/hour on 12v/5A and the Livol makes 30l/hour on 12v/8A, both of which can therefore easily be powered by solar and fan. |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
The best one made, but made no longer, was produced in Bellingham, WA. A
simple still and condensor system with fitting to attach to a pressure cooker. The coil, exiting from the center made every increasing circles and ended up pointing down into the receiving unit (glass, cup, what have you), The twist was a series of square fins slid over the coil. Each one had a die punched hole in the center which caused a slight turn so as to follow the coil. This die punched center also allowed a metal to metal fit with the coil that encourage the transfer of heat energy from steam to coil tubing wall to fins. A nice flow of air over the 16-18" diamerter by 4" high saucer shaped device increased efficiency. Using the pressure cooker increased time needed and efficiency as well. For a small amount of fuel one could produce 1 gallon of water per hour. Water was pure too! Never could figure out why they went of production and business. Maybe Ole Thom can track it down since he's from that area? Anyway I had mine made from scratch and included the pressure cooker device in the coupling that keeps it closed until a certain temperature state is reached; i.e. evaporation. If it cools the device closes. Haven't reached one gallon per hour but nearer 3/4 gallon. Neat thing is when it starts working efficiently the end flow is almost a steady stream not the expected dripdrip drip etc. MST |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
They work real good for making a fine moonshine also.
"Schoonertrash" wrote in message ... The best one made, but made no longer, was produced in Bellingham, WA. A simple still and condensor system with fitting to attach to a pressure cooker. The coil, exiting from the center made every increasing circles and ended up pointing down into the receiving unit (glass, cup, what have you), The twist was a series of square fins slid over the coil. Each one had a die punched hole in the center which caused a slight turn so as to follow the coil. This die punched center also allowed a metal to metal fit with the coil that encourage the transfer of heat energy from steam to coil tubing wall to fins. A nice flow of air over the 16-18" diamerter by 4" high saucer shaped device increased efficiency. Using the pressure cooker increased time needed and efficiency as well. For a small amount of fuel one could produce 1 gallon of water per hour. Water was pure too! Never could figure out why they went of production and business. Maybe Ole Thom can track it down since he's from that area? Anyway I had mine made from scratch and included the pressure cooker device in the coupling that keeps it closed until a certain temperature state is reached; i.e. evaporation. If it cools the device closes. Haven't reached one gallon per hour but nearer 3/4 gallon. Neat thing is when it starts working efficiently the end flow is almost a steady stream not the expected dripdrip drip etc. MST |
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What again? Another thread on Watermakers?
Why on earth would any one who could afford a boat large enough to support a
genset be caught in the same swamp as your self? "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... If you ever did anything but hang out here and post inane thoughts you might realize that when I get settled down in a nice, quiet, snug anchorage after a day's cruising be it in the Bahamas, the Keys or anywhere along the U.S. Gulf and East Coasts it's these noisy idiots who come in and anchor right on top of me that causes me to make valid observations about them and the pathetic, self-centered nature of their lubberly actions. S.Simon "The Carrolls" wrote in message news As often as your boat moves, you will never need to worry about tieing next to him, so why are you bitching. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Ian Sandell" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:49 +0100, "Ric" wrote: They're sailing in the tropics and I'd imagine will be spending a lot of time swimming/diving and then showering with fresh, so they will probably use more than your consumption in the north Atlantic. In summer in the Med I get through about 60l per day though it would be nice to have 100l a day and just not have to ration it at all. How much? What do you do with 100l a day - bath in it? For showers, use sal****er shampoo, then rinse with a litre of fresh. Energy hogs are what we're talking about here. This is the type of person who owns a sailboat that NEVER stops running machinery of one sort of another. There is a noisy and smelly diesel generator going 24/7, there is a noisy wind generator or two. There are loud stereos blaring most of the night, dogs barking, people hollering, etc. Add to this anchor chains rattling in the middle of the night because the big noisy boat is dragging because no proper anchor is shipped. It's all about priorities. Anyone whose major concern is bathing and consuming ridiculous quantities of water and making a bad neighbor out of himself in any anchorage is no sailor. He's just another lubber extending his obnoxious act out onto the water where most people go to get away from his type and the lessening of quality of life he provides. S.Simon |
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