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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
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Hash: SHA1 Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Meeting this Friday at 8:00 PM. Don't forget.... tw http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...cs/7397144.htm Posted on Tue, Dec. 02, 2003 Poll says Bush's approval is on the rise By WILL LESTER Associated Press WASHINGTON - President Bush's standing with the public has improved since his surprise Thanksgiving trip to Iraq amid signs of a stronger economy and following congressional passage of a prescription drug benefit under Medicare. Bush's job approval was at 61 percent in the National Annenberg Election Survey conducted the four days after the holiday, up from 56 percent during the four days before Thanksgiving. Disapproval of the president dropped from 41 percent to 36 percent, according to the poll released Tuesday. Bush visited the troops in Baghdad on Thanksgiving - a move that even won praise from political opponents. Public opinion about Bush personally also improved during the four-day, post-holiday span, with an increase in the number who view him favorably from 65 percent to 72 percent. Republicans shifted from 83 percent with a favorable view of Bush personally to 94 percent. Democrats moved from 46 percent to 55 percent. Public opinion on the war in Iraq did not shift significantly, however. People were about evenly split on whether the war in Iraq was worthwhile before the holiday and afterward. Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq increased slightly, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving before Thanksgiving, and people evenly split on that question now. The public view of his handling of the economy also shifted from a 45-51 percent split before Thanksgiving to a public divided almost evenly on his handling of the economy, 50-48, afterward. The margin of sampling error for the 789 people interviewed before Thanksgiving and the 847 interviewed after was plus or minus 3 percentage points. - ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBP80xUtCBA23eyf45EQKCnACfbeSEvyBBhJuGHgVhL13qr2 2QJx0AnA7J RGJjNe4RIVHgCcvg84y3saFN =cGhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
Democrats are going to lose the 2004 Presidential election
in the biggest landslide on record. Mr. Bush is likely to take all fifty states. Even California is turning to Republican leadership because the term Democrat leadership is an oxymoron. Democrats don't lead they only criticize and whine and cry. The future is looking positive, yes sir, very positive indeed. S.Simon "two wheels" wrote in message news  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Meeting this Friday at 8:00 PM. Don't forget.... tw http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...cs/7397144.htm Posted on Tue, Dec. 02, 2003 Poll says Bush's approval is on the rise By WILL LESTER Associated Press WASHINGTON - President Bush's standing with the public has improved since his surprise Thanksgiving trip to Iraq amid signs of a stronger economy and following congressional passage of a prescription drug benefit under Medicare. Bush's job approval was at 61 percent in the National Annenberg Election Survey conducted the four days after the holiday, up from 56 percent during the four days before Thanksgiving. Disapproval of the president dropped from 41 percent to 36 percent, according to the poll released Tuesday. Bush visited the troops in Baghdad on Thanksgiving - a move that even won praise from political opponents. Public opinion about Bush personally also improved during the four-day, post-holiday span, with an increase in the number who view him favorably from 65 percent to 72 percent. Republicans shifted from 83 percent with a favorable view of Bush personally to 94 percent. Democrats moved from 46 percent to 55 percent. Public opinion on the war in Iraq did not shift significantly, however. People were about evenly split on whether the war in Iraq was worthwhile before the holiday and afterward. Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq increased slightly, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving before Thanksgiving, and people evenly split on that question now. The public view of his handling of the economy also shifted from a 45-51 percent split before Thanksgiving to a public divided almost evenly on his handling of the economy, 50-48, afterward. The margin of sampling error for the 789 people interviewed before Thanksgiving and the 847 interviewed after was plus or minus 3 percentage points. - ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBP80xUtCBA23eyf45EQKCnACfbeSEvyBBhJuGHgVhL13qr2 2QJx0AnA7J RGJjNe4RIVHgCcvg84y3saFN =cGhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
Still waiting for you to accept the challange and put up your money....
Of course, we all know you won't.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Democrats are going to lose the 2004 Presidential election in the biggest landslide on record. Mr. Bush is likely to take all fifty states. Even California is turning to Republican leadership because the term Democrat leadership is an oxymoron. Democrats don't lead they only criticize and whine and cry. The future is looking positive, yes sir, very positive indeed. S.Simon "two wheels" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Meeting this Friday at 8:00 PM. Don't forget.... tw http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...cs/7397144.htm Posted on Tue, Dec. 02, 2003 Poll says Bush's approval is on the rise By WILL LESTER Associated Press WASHINGTON - President Bush's standing with the public has improved since his surprise Thanksgiving trip to Iraq amid signs of a stronger economy and following congressional passage of a prescription drug benefit under Medicare. Bush's job approval was at 61 percent in the National Annenberg Election Survey conducted the four days after the holiday, up from 56 percent during the four days before Thanksgiving. Disapproval of the president dropped from 41 percent to 36 percent, according to the poll released Tuesday. Bush visited the troops in Baghdad on Thanksgiving - a move that even won praise from political opponents. Public opinion about Bush personally also improved during the four-day, post-holiday span, with an increase in the number who view him favorably from 65 percent to 72 percent. Republicans shifted from 83 percent with a favorable view of Bush personally to 94 percent. Democrats moved from 46 percent to 55 percent. Public opinion on the war in Iraq did not shift significantly, however. People were about evenly split on whether the war in Iraq was worthwhile before the holiday and afterward. Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq increased slightly, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving before Thanksgiving, and people evenly split on that question now. The public view of his handling of the economy also shifted from a 45-51 percent split before Thanksgiving to a public divided almost evenly on his handling of the economy, 50-48, afterward. The margin of sampling error for the 789 people interviewed before Thanksgiving and the 847 interviewed after was plus or minus 3 percentage points. - ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBP80xUtCBA23eyf45EQKCnACfbeSEvyBBhJuGHgVhL13qr2 2QJx0AnA7J RGJjNe4RIVHgCcvg84y3saFN =cGhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
A load of crap.
Inflation will rear its ugly head. The housing bubble will deflate. Bush will win, but barely. He has alienated true Conservatives who want smaller government. The future is bright for those at the government trough. The independent man of self reliance is going to get it in the shorts. Medicare and SS taxes will rise greater than Federal Income tax. Republicans have no fiscal discipline. Vote for gridlock. Democrat President and Republican Congress. "The government that governs the least, governs the best". Poppa Pimple "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Democrats are going to lose the 2004 Presidential election in the biggest landslide on record. Mr. Bush is likely to take all fifty states. Even California is turning to Republican leadership because the term Democrat leadership is an oxymoron. Democrats don't lead they only criticize and whine and cry. The future is looking positive, yes sir, very positive indeed. S.Simon "two wheels" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Meeting this Friday at 8:00 PM. Don't forget.... tw http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...cs/7397144.htm Posted on Tue, Dec. 02, 2003 Poll says Bush's approval is on the rise By WILL LESTER Associated Press WASHINGTON - President Bush's standing with the public has improved since his surprise Thanksgiving trip to Iraq amid signs of a stronger economy and following congressional passage of a prescription drug benefit under Medicare. Bush's job approval was at 61 percent in the National Annenberg Election Survey conducted the four days after the holiday, up from 56 percent during the four days before Thanksgiving. Disapproval of the president dropped from 41 percent to 36 percent, according to the poll released Tuesday. Bush visited the troops in Baghdad on Thanksgiving - a move that even won praise from political opponents. Public opinion about Bush personally also improved during the four-day, post-holiday span, with an increase in the number who view him favorably from 65 percent to 72 percent. Republicans shifted from 83 percent with a favorable view of Bush personally to 94 percent. Democrats moved from 46 percent to 55 percent. Public opinion on the war in Iraq did not shift significantly, however. People were about evenly split on whether the war in Iraq was worthwhile before the holiday and afterward. Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq increased slightly, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving before Thanksgiving, and people evenly split on that question now. The public view of his handling of the economy also shifted from a 45-51 percent split before Thanksgiving to a public divided almost evenly on his handling of the economy, 50-48, afterward. The margin of sampling error for the 789 people interviewed before Thanksgiving and the 847 interviewed after was plus or minus 3 percentage points. - ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBP80xUtCBA23eyf45EQKCnACfbeSEvyBBhJuGHgVhL13qr2 2QJx0AnA7J RGJjNe4RIVHgCcvg84y3saFN =cGhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
According to the Economic Policy Institute, since the recession began 29
months ago in March 2001, 3.3 million private sector jobs have disappeared. This is the largest sustained loss of jobs since the Great Depression. Since the official end of the recession in November 2001, there has been a 1.3 million loss in private sector jobs. Unemployment has risen to over 8.9 million people, as the unemployment rate increased from 4.0% in 2000 to 6.1% in August 2003. Jobs remain 2.4 million below the level of March 2001 when the last recession began. This post-recession labor slump has now become the first (since the collection of monthly jobs data began in 1939) without a full recovery of jobs within 31 months of the start of a recession. Instead of losing jobs over the last two and a half years, the economy should have added 4.5 million jobs just to keep up with growth in the working-age population. Actual job losses instead of needed job gains have created a total gap of 6.9 million jobs. The record-long labor slump has caused many people to give up on finding a job and created a "missing" labor force of 2.3 million. If added to the 8.8 million officially unemployed, the "missing" labor force would raise the unemployment rate to 7.4%. It takes monthly gains of about 150,000 payroll jobs and 155,000 in household employment just to keep the gap in jobs since March 2001 from widening further. Even with job gains of 306,000 a month, as promised by the Administration early this year, it would take more than four years to close the jobs gap that two and a half years of job losses have created. The last "new jobs" number I saw was 130,000 jobs created in October. While the administration touted this as a sign of recovery, in fact it means we are still not closing the gap, an unbelievable situation considering the huge deficits being generated by the current administration. |
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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
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Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:49:42 -0500, "Thales" wrote: According to the Economic Policy Institute, since the recession began 29 months ago in March 2001, 3.3 million private sector jobs have disappeared. This is the largest sustained loss of jobs since the Great Depression. Since the official end of the recession in November 2001, there has been a 1.3 million loss in private sector jobs. Unemployment has risen to over 8.9 million people, as the unemployment rate increased from 4.0% in 2000 to 6.1% in August 2003. Jobs remain 2.4 million below the level of March 2001 when the last recession began. This post-recession labor slump has now become the first (since the collection of monthly jobs data began in 1939) without a full recovery of jobs within 31 months of the start of a recession. Instead of losing jobs over the last two and a half years, the economy should have added 4.5 million jobs just to keep up with growth in the working-age population. Actual job losses instead of needed job gains have created a total gap of 6.9 million jobs. The record-long labor slump has caused many people to give up on finding a job and created a "missing" labor force of 2.3 million. If added to the 8.8 million officially unemployed, the "missing" labor force would raise the unemployment rate to 7.4%. It takes monthly gains of about 150,000 payroll jobs and 155,000 in household employment just to keep the gap in jobs since March 2001 from widening further. Even with job gains of 306,000 a month, as promised by the Administration early this year, it would take more than four years to close the jobs gap that two and a half years of job losses have created. The last "new jobs" number I saw was 130,000 jobs created in October. While the administration touted this as a sign of recovery, in fact it means we are still not closing the gap, an unbelievable situation considering the huge deficits being generated by the current administration. And yet Bush is still popular enough to win reelection. Go figure. I've heard that the way the number of lost jobs are counted, anybody who's laid off and then takes out a loan to start their own business, is not counted as somebody who found another job. This is even if they're better off, or at about the same level of income that they had before. That covers a lot of people in this age of consultants and services. Also, I think the retail stores tell us a lot. If people are wondering where their next paycheck is coming from, or are worried about losing their job, retailers are going to suffer first. I don't see retailers suffering lately. Not this Christmas. Car buying is way up too. two wheels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQE/zXgU0IEDbd7J/jkRAtqIAKCfRPCai0PGn+grvmPIeNANDLw8cwCg0hLJ NvVkzpv97DWjfkJcSyvRQ8Y= =dkiW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"two wheels" wrote in message ... This has yet to be demonstrated. Obviously Neal isn't interested in wagering on it. And yet Bush is still popular enough to win reelection. Go figure. This is true, but this number is pretty small. The VAST majority of the uncounted have been dropped because they no longer can collect unemployment insurance or they accept part-time work. I've heard that the way the number of lost jobs are counted, anybody who's laid off and then takes out a loan to start their own business, is not counted as somebody who found another job. This is even if they're better off, or at about the same level of income that they had before. That covers a lot of people in this age of consultants and services. Retailer actually are suffering, but not necessarily the heavily discount stores like Wal-Mart (which *is* good news). The problem is that many of the mid-level retail stores are having problems. Sales are way off, although there is some hope for the holiday sales season. Car buying is way up, but that's not the whole economy of course. Also, I think the retail stores tell us a lot. If people are wondering where their next paycheck is coming from, or are worried about losing their job, retailers are going to suffer first. I don't see retailers suffering lately. Not this Christmas. Car buying is way up too. two wheels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQE/zXgU0IEDbd7J/jkRAtqIAKCfRPCai0PGn+grvmPIeNANDLw8cwCg0hLJ NvVkzpv97DWjfkJcSyvRQ8Y= =dkiW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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OT - Just for Simple Simon and Anonymous
Neal will be the woman dressed in black.
"two wheels" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Meeting this Friday at 8:00 PM. Don't forget.... tw http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...cs/7397144.htm Posted on Tue, Dec. 02, 2003 Poll says Bush's approval is on the rise By WILL LESTER Associated Press WASHINGTON - President Bush's standing with the public has improved since his surprise Thanksgiving trip to Iraq amid signs of a stronger economy and following congressional passage of a prescription drug benefit under Medicare. Bush's job approval was at 61 percent in the National Annenberg Election Survey conducted the four days after the holiday, up from 56 percent during the four days before Thanksgiving. Disapproval of the president dropped from 41 percent to 36 percent, according to the poll released Tuesday. Bush visited the troops in Baghdad on Thanksgiving - a move that even won praise from political opponents. Public opinion about Bush personally also improved during the four-day, post-holiday span, with an increase in the number who view him favorably from 65 percent to 72 percent. Republicans shifted from 83 percent with a favorable view of Bush personally to 94 percent. Democrats moved from 46 percent to 55 percent. Public opinion on the war in Iraq did not shift significantly, however. People were about evenly split on whether the war in Iraq was worthwhile before the holiday and afterward. Approval of Bush's handling of Iraq increased slightly, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving before Thanksgiving, and people evenly split on that question now. The public view of his handling of the economy also shifted from a 45-51 percent split before Thanksgiving to a public divided almost evenly on his handling of the economy, 50-48, afterward. The margin of sampling error for the 789 people interviewed before Thanksgiving and the 847 interviewed after was plus or minus 3 percentage points. - ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBP80xUtCBA23eyf45EQKCnACfbeSEvyBBhJuGHgVhL13qr2 2QJx0AnA7J RGJjNe4RIVHgCcvg84y3saFN =cGhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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