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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth
compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
I believe that the better compasses (all real compasses?) are built for either
the Northern or Southern Hemisphere, or have an adjustment. http://www.ritchienavigation.com/ser...albalance.html "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
So, when I decide to circumnavigate I'll need several compasses?
I have to wonder at the fact of all the circumnavigation stories I've read that not a single, solitary author even made mention of compass dip? S.Simon "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... I believe that the better compasses (all real compasses?) are built for either the Northern or Southern Hemisphere, or have an adjustment. http://www.ritchienavigation.com/ser...albalance.html "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
And either a boat or a plane.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... So, when I decide to circumnavigate I'll need several compasses? I have to wonder at the fact of all the circumnavigation stories I've read that not a single, solitary author even made mention of compass dip? S.Simon "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... I believe that the better compasses (all real compasses?) are built for either the Northern or Southern Hemisphere, or have an adjustment. http://www.ritchienavigation.com/ser...albalance.html "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
You are correct. The dip would throw the card off and might be a
problem. In fact some tasco binocs with built in compass sold here did not work for the reason! No compass seeks the pole(s). They just align themselves with local field. If you look at a large scale chart with variation the lines can often wander a great deal (let alone the local anomalies). Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
But the greater question is this. A northern hemisphere compass card
has a magnet with the south pole facing the North cardinal point on the card. This magnet also has a north pole that aligns itself opposite of the Earth's poles. Does a southern hemisphere compass, in order to minimize card dip, have the magnet placed the opposite direction on the south side of the card? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... You are correct. The dip would throw the card off and might be a problem. In fact some tasco binocs with built in compass sold here did not work for the reason! No compass seeks the pole(s). They just align themselves with local field. If you look at a large scale chart with variation the lines can often wander a great deal (let alone the local anomalies). Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
I'm sorry I don't really understand the question. Dip is generally
corrected by weights. So take a northern compass south and card tilts and develops a dip error. The dip in the south is gernerally in the opposite direction to that in the north if you like to think about it that way. Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: This magnet also has a north pole that aligns itself opposite of the Earth's poles. Does a southern hemisphere compass, in order to minimize card dip, have the magnet placed the opposite direction on the south side of the card? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... You are correct. The dip would throw the card off and might be a problem. In fact some tasco binocs with built in compass sold here did not work for the reason! No compass seeks the pole(s). They just align themselves with local field. If you look at a large scale chart with variation the lines can often wander a great deal (let alone the local anomalies). Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
But, as you well know, the magnet(s) cannot be place at the center
of the card because that is where the bearing resides. Therefore, it follows that the magnet is off center favoring whatever side of the card minimizes the weights placed opposite of it to compensate for dip. Are your southern hemisphere compasses built the opposite of northern hemisphere compasses with respect to magnet and weight placement? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... I'm sorry I don't really understand the question. Dip is generally corrected by weights. So take a northern compass south and card tilts and develops a dip error. The dip in the south is gernerally in the opposite direction to that in the north if you like to think about it that way. Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: This magnet also has a north pole that aligns itself opposite of the Earth's poles. Does a southern hemisphere compass, in order to minimize card dip, have the magnet placed the opposite direction on the south side of the card? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... You are correct. The dip would throw the card off and might be a problem. In fact some tasco binocs with built in compass sold here did not work for the reason! No compass seeks the pole(s). They just align themselves with local field. If you look at a large scale chart with variation the lines can often wander a great deal (let alone the local anomalies). Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
The magnets can be placed either side of the bearing so the sapphire
bearing is free of mechanical obstrction. The weight is placed on the other (N on card) side in the southern hemisphere Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: But, as you well know, the magnet(s) cannot be place at the center of the card because that is where the bearing resides. Therefore, it follows that the magnet is off center favoring whatever side of the card minimizes the weights placed opposite of it to compensate for dip. Are your southern hemisphere compasses built the opposite of northern hemisphere compasses with respect to magnet and weight placement? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... I'm sorry I don't really understand the question. Dip is generally corrected by weights. So take a northern compass south and card tilts and develops a dip error. The dip in the south is gernerally in the opposite direction to that in the north if you like to think about it that way. Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: This magnet also has a north pole that aligns itself opposite of the Earth's poles. Does a southern hemisphere compass, in order to minimize card dip, have the magnet placed the opposite direction on the south side of the card? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... You are correct. The dip would throw the card off and might be a problem. In fact some tasco binocs with built in compass sold here did not work for the reason! No compass seeks the pole(s). They just align themselves with local field. If you look at a large scale chart with variation the lines can often wander a great deal (let alone the local anomalies). Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Since the north magnetic pole is not resting upon the surface of the Earth compasses made for Northern Hemisphere use are usually weighted on the card on the southern side to keep the card more level as the north side of the card seeks out the north pole buried well inside the Earth. Are the compasses you Australian and New Zealand ******s use weighted any differently? What if you were going to sail to Canada or something. Would your southern compass work in the Northern hemisphere? Also does you compass really seek the North magnetic pole or is it made backwards to seek the south magnetic pole. Enquiring minds want to know . . . S.Simon |
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Compass dip - questions for the southern Hemisphere people.
Simple,
If you ever sail around the world, I'm sure you won't need a compass as much as a "Dinner Jacket" The trip will be on a cruise Ship and you'll be a passenger. Hope you had a wonderful day of Fasting & exercise. I had a wonderful Turkey Dinner with stuffing (Oyster) gravy, Mashed potatoes, Sweet potatoes with marshmallows, asparagus; Pumpkin and Raisin pie. Two Manhattans GREAT DAY I'm one of your FAT American. Obese to my eyeballs. Called Morbid Obesity. Wish you lived closer so I could name you to carry Ole (Fat) Thom the last mile Ole Thom |
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