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Donal November 28th 03 11:45 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
true

Jonathan, if Scotty's agreeing with me, then you must be right!


Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.



Regards


Donal
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Donal November 28th 03 11:48 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
He was a loser before, is one now, and always will be.

What a sad frustrated old man Scotty is. Twas a time he had humor. Now

he's
just bitter, calling me names in a witless gargle of depressing poorly

spelled
profanity.


Is your name Bush?? Perhaps you could translate that into English for us??


You should leave the long words to others.



Regards


Donal
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Scott Vernon November 29th 03 02:42 AM

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jon, I'm afraid you're beating a dead horse, or hippo.

SV

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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You should be afraid. You can't accurately predict the situation whereby

the
fender will be a hazard; therefore, the best approach is to eliminate the
hazard,
actually as many hazards as reasonably possible. You haven't done that,
therefore
you're putting yourself and your crew in danger by being lazy.

And, yet again, I'm creating no rules. I'm just pointing out that you're

not
following
common sense.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Absolutely wrong. It doesn't take 2 hours to create a hazard. It only
takes a careless, lazy act (or lack thereof), and a moment's

inattention.

Doen't apply to me, I'm afraid. No danger in a fender on deck in

conditions
described. You can create you're own rules, but please stay out of mine.

RB





Scott Vernon November 29th 03 02:43 AM

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"Donal" wrote

Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.


and?


Bobsprit November 29th 03 03:17 AM

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Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.

Prove to me that fenders on deck are dangerous during a two hour afternoon sail
during calm weather and near shore.
Go ahead! I'm waiting!

Bwahahahaha! What a coward!

RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 03:21 AM

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You should be afraid. You can't accurately predict the situation whereby the
fender will be a hazard; therefore, the best approach is to eliminate the
hazard,

Based on this idea, I should also keep everyone tethered as well and wearing
PFDs with signal lights.
Really, Jonathan! You're being very silly. We're talking about two fenders on
deck in calm conditions for a few hours. NO WAY can anyone be hurt by them
unless they explode and create a time vortex bringing a T-Rex on deck and
thereby capsizing the boat.
Stop being silly.

RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 03:22 AM

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jon, I'm afraid you're beating a dead horse, or hippo.


Your wife can take it!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Jonathan Ganz November 29th 03 08:51 PM

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But you seem to like it.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
jon, I'm afraid you're beating a dead horse, or hippo.


Your wife can take it!

Bwahahahaha!

RB




Jonathan Ganz November 29th 03 08:53 PM

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No. This has nothing to do with being foolish, of which you are
an expert. This has to do with using some common sense and
not leaving obvious hazards on deck. Unless you're using the
fenders, they should be stowed. Now, if you had shown us a
picture whereby one of your crew was using a fender for a
headrest, then you could make the claim that it was being used
and would be stowed or was stowed. As it is, you're the one
being silly... not fessing up to something that's blatant, and obviously
wrong.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You should be afraid. You can't accurately predict the situation whereby

the
fender will be a hazard; therefore, the best approach is to eliminate the
hazard,

Based on this idea, I should also keep everyone tethered as well and

wearing
PFDs with signal lights.
Really, Jonathan! You're being very silly. We're talking about two fenders

on
deck in calm conditions for a few hours. NO WAY can anyone be hurt by them
unless they explode and create a time vortex bringing a T-Rex on deck and
thereby capsizing the boat.
Stop being silly.

RB




Jonathan Ganz November 29th 03 08:55 PM

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You're asking him to climb on your boat, which I would imagine
would exceed the stupidity that you've shown about this topic.
Even a donal fish isn't going to do that.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.

Prove to me that fenders on deck are dangerous during a two hour afternoon

sail
during calm weather and near shore.
Go ahead! I'm waiting!

Bwahahahaha! What a coward!

RB




Donal November 29th 03 10:28 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You should be afraid. You can't accurately predict the situation whereby

the
fender will be a hazard; therefore, the best approach is to eliminate the
hazard,

Based on this idea, I should also keep everyone tethered as well and

wearing
PFDs with signal lights.
Really, Jonathan! You're being very silly. We're talking about two fenders

on
deck in calm conditions for a few hours.


TWO!! Geeze, you are twice as incompetent as I thought!


Regards


Donal
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Donal November 29th 03 10:37 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.

Prove to me that fenders on deck are dangerous during a two hour afternoon

sail
during calm weather and near shore.
Go ahead! I'm waiting!

Bwahahahaha! What a coward!


I don't need to prove that fenders are dangerous.

It is self evident that the fenders would be an obstruction if anybody
needed to go forward.

Your arguement seems to be based on the fact that it would be unlikely that
anyone would need to go forward during a two hour sail. That is blatent
rubbish. You know it, as well as I know it. I'm fairly sure that even if
you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter the
unexpected sometimes. You left the fenders on deck because you are lazy,
and not because you are stupid!



Regards


Donal
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Bobsprit November 29th 03 11:01 PM

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It is self evident that the fenders would be an obstruction if anybody
needed to go forward.


Huuuhhh? wha???? You can't step over a small bright blue fender in 10 knots of
air on flat water??? Obstruction??? Are you crippled? Are you using a unicycle
to get to your fordeck??? Whhhaaaat?
Puh-lease explain so EVERYBODY can understand!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 11:03 PM

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would be unlikely that
anyone would need to go forward during a two hour sail.

Nope. That's YOUR assumption and as usual, it's wrong. Clearly I've gone
forward in the 1st pic just to take the picture!
And yet, through GREAT risk and adversity, I've overcome the terrifying Deck
Fender Beast!

Bwahahahahaha! Don't stop, Donal!

RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 11:04 PM

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you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter the
unexpected sometimes.

Yeah, one time a kid with downs syndrome fell onto my deck from another boat
rafted with us. Luckily an extra fender was lying on the towrail and it saved
what few brains he had.

I guess that could have been your son!

RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 11:05 PM

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TWO!! Geeze, you are twice as incompetent as I thought!


You ARE NOT!


RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 11:11 PM

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As it is, you're the one
being silly... not fessing up to something that's blatant, and obviously
wrong.



Jonathan, you fail to grasp the obvious.
A difference that made no difference was no difference.
Because of the simple logic above, you are wrong about the fender issue. It was
not a liability or problem. Not ever.
Sorry.
Truly.
But you're wrong wrong, as Donal should be indicating by agreeing with you.

RB

Bobsprit November 29th 03 11:11 PM

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You're asking him to climb on your boat,


ON IT? He's swimming in my bilge!

RB

Donal November 29th 03 11:39 PM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter

the
unexpected sometimes.

Yeah, one time a kid with downs syndrome fell onto my deck from another

boat
rafted with us. Luckily an extra fender was lying on the towrail and it

saved
what few brains he had.

I guess that could have been your son!


Actually, last night I went to see my 16 y/o son perform, on stage, in his
first live gig. He was lead guitar in a 4 piece band.

I was far more terrified than he was! But he didn't make a single
mistake!


Afterwards, he told me that he was nervous before he went on, but that he
relaxed as soon as he started. His freinds were all there, and he played to
them.

He didn't hit a wrong note, - and I had to restrain myself from telling
the people that were seated beside us, that the lead guitarist was our son.

Afterwards, I saw many of his friends congratulating him backstage.

I hope that you come to share my pride in due course.



Regards


Donal
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Bobsprit November 30th 03 12:23 AM

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I hope that you come to share my pride in due course.

I think it's great that you are able to except your son.
It's not a choice for him afterall.

RB

katysails November 30th 03 04:24 AM

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I hope that you come to share my pride in due course.

It's really something when your kid does something like that, isn't it? =
Makes all the trials and travails more than worth it. I had the same =
feeling when my daughter "took the walk" for her Engineering =
degree....with two gold tassels...I was so very proud of her. =20
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Jonathan Ganz November 30th 03 04:34 AM

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"Was" has nothing to do with "will" or "might." Anything you can name
has some probability of happening. Since you're not god, you can't
predict what could happen. Common sense tells us to take common
precautions. Since you haven't done that, you are trusting luck, which
doesn't exist except as a concept.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
As it is, you're the one
being silly... not fessing up to something that's blatant, and obviously
wrong.



Jonathan, you fail to grasp the obvious.
A difference that made no difference was no difference.
Because of the simple logic above, you are wrong about the fender issue.

It was
not a liability or problem. Not ever.
Sorry.
Truly.
But you're wrong wrong, as Donal should be indicating by agreeing with

you.

RB




Jonathan Ganz November 30th 03 04:40 AM

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Even he wouldn't do that!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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You're asking him to climb on your boat,


ON IT? He's swimming in my bilge!

RB




Jonathan Ganz November 30th 03 04:41 AM

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Not only is it blatant rubbish, he proved that someone did go forward
by taking the picture.

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.

Prove to me that fenders on deck are dangerous during a two hour

afternoon
sail
during calm weather and near shore.
Go ahead! I'm waiting!

Bwahahahaha! What a coward!


I don't need to prove that fenders are dangerous.

It is self evident that the fenders would be an obstruction if anybody
needed to go forward.

Your arguement seems to be based on the fact that it would be unlikely

that
anyone would need to go forward during a two hour sail. That is blatent
rubbish. You know it, as well as I know it. I'm fairly sure that even

if
you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter

the
unexpected sometimes. You left the fenders on deck because you are lazy,
and not because you are stupid!



Regards


Donal
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Jonathan Ganz November 30th 03 04:42 AM

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I hope they didn't sue you. Or rather, Suzie.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter

the
unexpected sometimes.

Yeah, one time a kid with downs syndrome fell onto my deck from another

boat
rafted with us. Luckily an extra fender was lying on the towrail and it

saved
what few brains he had.

I guess that could have been your son!

RB




Peter Wiley November 30th 03 11:50 PM

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Perfectly safe for Bob. No need to go forward when you're motoring and
have someone else to handle lines for you. He never leaves the safety
of the cockpit and his camera.

PDW

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are safe,
then you are an idiot.

Prove to me that fenders on deck are dangerous during a two hour afternoon

sail
during calm weather and near shore.
Go ahead! I'm waiting!

Bwahahahaha! What a coward!


I don't need to prove that fenders are dangerous.

It is self evident that the fenders would be an obstruction if anybody
needed to go forward.

Your arguement seems to be based on the fact that it would be unlikely that
anyone would need to go forward during a two hour sail. That is blatent
rubbish. You know it, as well as I know it. I'm fairly sure that even if
you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter the
unexpected sometimes. You left the fenders on deck because you are lazy,
and not because you are stupid!



Regards


Donal
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Jonathan Ganz December 1st 03 01:50 AM

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You're right Peter... I was mislead by the word "sailboat."

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Perfectly safe for Bob. No need to go forward when you're motoring and
have someone else to handle lines for you. He never leaves the safety
of the cockpit and his camera.

PDW

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bob, if you are stupid enough to believe that fenders on deck are

safe,
then you are an idiot.

Prove to me that fenders on deck are dangerous during a two hour

afternoon
sail
during calm weather and near shore.
Go ahead! I'm waiting!

Bwahahahaha! What a coward!


I don't need to prove that fenders are dangerous.

It is self evident that the fenders would be an obstruction if anybody
needed to go forward.

Your arguement seems to be based on the fact that it would be unlikely

that
anyone would need to go forward during a two hour sail. That is blatent
rubbish. You know it, as well as I know it. I'm fairly sure that even

if
you only sail within a 1/2 mile of the marina, that you still encounter

the
unexpected sometimes. You left the fenders on deck because you are

lazy,
and not because you are stupid!



Regards


Donal
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