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Joe November 24th 03 06:16 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
The funding for the so-called "war protests" in London has been coming
directly from the sworn enemies of the USA and the rest of the
free world.

The "A.N.S.W.E.R organization, which is a front for the World
Worker's Party, is the main financier for all "war protests" and
of course the "World Worker's Party" is a screaming communist
organization that advocates a return to a Stalin type Communist
dictatorship for the world. The WWP has clearly joined forces
with the Muslim terrorists, and they are receiving their funds
from most Muslim areas, including a major contribution from guess
who . . . yes good ol Al-Qaeda! (Actually the money came from one
of Osama's sons.)

So when all those "war protesters" try to make the ridiculous
claim they are protesting war but not supporting terrorism the
truth is now out in the open. Not only are the war protester's
supporting Al-Qaeda directly, they are taking its money as well!

What is also amazing is the London War protesters claim they were
only able to draw 100,000 terrorist supporters from the entire
European area! No doubt there are that many howling communists
and murder supporters in Europe, and I am surprised they could
not muster more considering the vast population areas they were
canvassing. (At last report there were less than 1000 protesters
that showed up in London! I should also mention that most of the
"war protesters" in the USA are wearing terrorist style
uniforms.)

I also find it strange the Mayor of London claimed the murderer
and terrorist supporters "possessed the moral high ground in
respect to their protestations." How can those that are
supporting mass murderers and terrorists, such as those that
murdered 26 innocent people including some Brits, and wounded
more than 400 in Istanbul the other night, and taking funds directly
from the people that massacred so many on 911, claim such support
is "moral" in any respect?

How can the direct support and receipt of funds from mass
murderers be considered "moral?" (I should also mention that
Al-Qaeda murdered and wounded mostly Muslim people in their
Istanbul attacks...so much for these goons claiming they are
murdering for Allah...that false claim has been exposed for what
it is....pure bunk).

The vermin that call themselves "war protesters" have been
organized by those pro-terrorist and "hate the free world" and
"hate globalization" and "hate free economies" and hate, hate,
hate, groups that exist to organize the feeble minded, pathetic
and inept that exist in the world.

I pity these idiots, but I sure as hell would not consider them
as a true representative of the European or American people.

My Englishs friends tell me that only the dregs and morons of Europe are
doing the pro-terrorism "protesting." In America, those that
showed up in Florida are wearing Ski Masks....I am amazed they
are not also wearing suicide bomb belts and carrying AK-47's like
those they are trying to support and protect.

I should also mention the other major financier/organizer of the
London/Florida "war protesters" has even more sinister
connections than ANSWER. The I.E.F.A. is an organization
supposedly representing a group of Christian Pastors. But where
are the "Christian Pastors?" In fact, this organization collects
money to support Fidel Castro, Omar Kadify, Saddam Hussein (when
Saddam was still in power) and they are directly connected to
that South Florida radical Muslim Goon that was recently arrested
for collecting and sending money *directly* to Al Qaeda!

(If you were living on another planet for the past two years, it
was Al Qaeda that was partially responsible for the murder of
thousands of people on 9/11/01).

(Source UPI, AP and Fox News.)


The next time you read bobspirts "war protest" you now know what
you are really looking at: A are sworn enemy of the USA,
pro-Iranian and pro-terrorist that advocate the murder of
innocent people. Moreover, he wants the free world
to return to a Stalin like draconian communist state. Now that is
what he is posting and marching for not "peace" like he is
disingenuously claiming.

If he really wanted peace they would be marching
to disarm the radical Muslim terrorists that are murdering
innocent people all over the world . . . and not marching to
support and protect such wanton murderers.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Scott Vernon November 24th 03 06:35 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Right on Joe. I say we call for a boycott of all Bobsprit films. That will
surley crush Hollywood.

Scotty

London-10,000 proteters=20,000 teeth


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
The funding for the so-called "war protests" in London has been coming
directly from the sworn enemies of the USA and the rest of the
free world.

The "A.N.S.W.E.R organization, which is a front for the World
Worker's Party, is the main financier for all "war protests" and
of course the "World Worker's Party" is a screaming communist
organization that advocates a return to a Stalin type Communist
dictatorship for the world. The WWP has clearly joined forces
with the Muslim terrorists, and they are receiving their funds
from most Muslim areas, including a major contribution from guess
who . . . yes good ol Al-Qaeda! (Actually the money came from one
of Osama's sons.)

So when all those "war protesters" try to make the ridiculous
claim they are protesting war but not supporting terrorism the
truth is now out in the open. Not only are the war protester's
supporting Al-Qaeda directly, they are taking its money as well!

What is also amazing is the London War protesters claim they were
only able to draw 100,000 terrorist supporters from the entire
European area! No doubt there are that many howling communists
and murder supporters in Europe, and I am surprised they could
not muster more considering the vast population areas they were
canvassing. (At last report there were less than 1000 protesters
that showed up in London! I should also mention that most of the
"war protesters" in the USA are wearing terrorist style
uniforms.)

I also find it strange the Mayor of London claimed the murderer
and terrorist supporters "possessed the moral high ground in
respect to their protestations." How can those that are
supporting mass murderers and terrorists, such as those that
murdered 26 innocent people including some Brits, and wounded
more than 400 in Istanbul the other night, and taking funds directly
from the people that massacred so many on 911, claim such support
is "moral" in any respect?

How can the direct support and receipt of funds from mass
murderers be considered "moral?" (I should also mention that
Al-Qaeda murdered and wounded mostly Muslim people in their
Istanbul attacks...so much for these goons claiming they are
murdering for Allah...that false claim has been exposed for what
it is....pure bunk).

The vermin that call themselves "war protesters" have been
organized by those pro-terrorist and "hate the free world" and
"hate globalization" and "hate free economies" and hate, hate,
hate, groups that exist to organize the feeble minded, pathetic
and inept that exist in the world.

I pity these idiots, but I sure as hell would not consider them
as a true representative of the European or American people.

My Englishs friends tell me that only the dregs and morons of Europe are
doing the pro-terrorism "protesting." In America, those that
showed up in Florida are wearing Ski Masks....I am amazed they
are not also wearing suicide bomb belts and carrying AK-47's like
those they are trying to support and protect.

I should also mention the other major financier/organizer of the
London/Florida "war protesters" has even more sinister
connections than ANSWER. The I.E.F.A. is an organization
supposedly representing a group of Christian Pastors. But where
are the "Christian Pastors?" In fact, this organization collects
money to support Fidel Castro, Omar Kadify, Saddam Hussein (when
Saddam was still in power) and they are directly connected to
that South Florida radical Muslim Goon that was recently arrested
for collecting and sending money *directly* to Al Qaeda!

(If you were living on another planet for the past two years, it
was Al Qaeda that was partially responsible for the murder of
thousands of people on 9/11/01).

(Source UPI, AP and Fox News.)


The next time you read bobspirts "war protest" you now know what
you are really looking at: A are sworn enemy of the USA,
pro-Iranian and pro-terrorist that advocate the murder of
innocent people. Moreover, he wants the free world
to return to a Stalin like draconian communist state. Now that is
what he is posting and marching for not "peace" like he is
disingenuously claiming.

If he really wanted peace they would be marching
to disarm the radical Muslim terrorists that are murdering
innocent people all over the world . . . and not marching to
support and protect such wanton murderers.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



two wheels November 24th 03 07:35 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
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It's quite innocent. AFI (American Film Institute) has a special
fund that pays Bob not to hire any washed-up Star Trek actors for
the express purpose of training film cameras on them to create
cinematic atrocities. It's cheap insurance against destroying the
reputation of the craft.

two wheels


On 24 Nov 2003 10:16:42 -0800, (Joe) wrote:

The funding for the so-called "war protests" in London has been

coming
directly from the sworn enemies of the USA and the rest of the
free world.

The "A.N.S.W.E.R organization, which is a front for the World
Worker's Party, is the main financier for all "war protests" and
of course the "World Worker's Party" is a screaming communist
organization that advocates a return to a Stalin type Communist
dictatorship for the world. The WWP has clearly joined forces
with the Muslim terrorists, and they are receiving their funds
from most Muslim areas, including a major contribution from guess
who . . . yes good ol Al-Qaeda! (Actually the money came from one
of Osama's sons.)

So when all those "war protesters" try to make the ridiculous
claim they are protesting war but not supporting terrorism the
truth is now out in the open. Not only are the war protester's
supporting Al-Qaeda directly, they are taking its money as well!

What is also amazing is the London War protesters claim they were
only able to draw 100,000 terrorist supporters from the entire
European area! No doubt there are that many howling communists
and murder supporters in Europe, and I am surprised they could
not muster more considering the vast population areas they were
canvassing. (At last report there were less than 1000 protesters
that showed up in London! I should also mention that most of the
"war protesters" in the USA are wearing terrorist style
uniforms.)

I also find it strange the Mayor of London claimed the murderer
and terrorist supporters "possessed the moral high ground in
respect to their protestations." How can those that are
supporting mass murderers and terrorists, such as those that
murdered 26 innocent people including some Brits, and wounded
more than 400 in Istanbul the other night, and taking funds

directly
from the people that massacred so many on 911, claim such support
is "moral" in any respect?

How can the direct support and receipt of funds from mass
murderers be considered "moral?" (I should also mention that
Al-Qaeda murdered and wounded mostly Muslim people in their
Istanbul attacks...so much for these goons claiming they are
murdering for Allah...that false claim has been exposed for what
it is....pure bunk).

The vermin that call themselves "war protesters" have been
organized by those pro-terrorist and "hate the free world" and
"hate globalization" and "hate free economies" and hate, hate,
hate, groups that exist to organize the feeble minded, pathetic
and inept that exist in the world.

I pity these idiots, but I sure as hell would not consider them
as a true representative of the European or American people.

My Englishs friends tell me that only the dregs and morons of

Europe are
doing the pro-terrorism "protesting." In America, those that
showed up in Florida are wearing Ski Masks....I am amazed they
are not also wearing suicide bomb belts and carrying AK-47's like
those they are trying to support and protect.

I should also mention the other major financier/organizer of the
London/Florida "war protesters" has even more sinister
connections than ANSWER. The I.E.F.A. is an organization
supposedly representing a group of Christian Pastors. But where
are the "Christian Pastors?" In fact, this organization collects
money to support Fidel Castro, Omar Kadify, Saddam Hussein (when
Saddam was still in power) and they are directly connected to
that South Florida radical Muslim Goon that was recently arrested
for collecting and sending money *directly* to Al Qaeda!

(If you were living on another planet for the past two years, it
was Al Qaeda that was partially responsible for the murder of
thousands of people on 9/11/01).

(Source UPI, AP and Fox News.)


The next time you read bobspirts "war protest" you now know what
you are really looking at: A are sworn enemy of the USA,
pro-Iranian and pro-terrorist that advocate the murder of
innocent people. Moreover, he wants the free world
to return to a Stalin like draconian communist state. Now that is
what he is posting and marching for not "peace" like he is
disingenuously claiming.

If he really wanted peace they would be marching
to disarm the radical Muslim terrorists that are murdering
innocent people all over the world . . . and not marching to
support and protect such wanton murderers.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


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Jonathan Ganz November 24th 03 07:48 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Obviously, you know nothing about democracies. Go back
to China. They'll like you there.

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
The funding for the so-called "war protests" in London has been coming
directly from the sworn enemies of the USA and the rest of the
free world.

The "A.N.S.W.E.R organization, which is a front for the World
Worker's Party, is the main financier for all "war protests" and
of course the "World Worker's Party" is a screaming communist
organization that advocates a return to a Stalin type Communist
dictatorship for the world. The WWP has clearly joined forces
with the Muslim terrorists, and they are receiving their funds
from most Muslim areas, including a major contribution from guess
who . . . yes good ol Al-Qaeda! (Actually the money came from one
of Osama's sons.)

So when all those "war protesters" try to make the ridiculous
claim they are protesting war but not supporting terrorism the
truth is now out in the open. Not only are the war protester's
supporting Al-Qaeda directly, they are taking its money as well!

What is also amazing is the London War protesters claim they were
only able to draw 100,000 terrorist supporters from the entire
European area! No doubt there are that many howling communists
and murder supporters in Europe, and I am surprised they could
not muster more considering the vast population areas they were
canvassing. (At last report there were less than 1000 protesters
that showed up in London! I should also mention that most of the
"war protesters" in the USA are wearing terrorist style
uniforms.)

I also find it strange the Mayor of London claimed the murderer
and terrorist supporters "possessed the moral high ground in
respect to their protestations." How can those that are
supporting mass murderers and terrorists, such as those that
murdered 26 innocent people including some Brits, and wounded
more than 400 in Istanbul the other night, and taking funds directly
from the people that massacred so many on 911, claim such support
is "moral" in any respect?

How can the direct support and receipt of funds from mass
murderers be considered "moral?" (I should also mention that
Al-Qaeda murdered and wounded mostly Muslim people in their
Istanbul attacks...so much for these goons claiming they are
murdering for Allah...that false claim has been exposed for what
it is....pure bunk).

The vermin that call themselves "war protesters" have been
organized by those pro-terrorist and "hate the free world" and
"hate globalization" and "hate free economies" and hate, hate,
hate, groups that exist to organize the feeble minded, pathetic
and inept that exist in the world.

I pity these idiots, but I sure as hell would not consider them
as a true representative of the European or American people.

My Englishs friends tell me that only the dregs and morons of Europe are
doing the pro-terrorism "protesting." In America, those that
showed up in Florida are wearing Ski Masks....I am amazed they
are not also wearing suicide bomb belts and carrying AK-47's like
those they are trying to support and protect.

I should also mention the other major financier/organizer of the
London/Florida "war protesters" has even more sinister
connections than ANSWER. The I.E.F.A. is an organization
supposedly representing a group of Christian Pastors. But where
are the "Christian Pastors?" In fact, this organization collects
money to support Fidel Castro, Omar Kadify, Saddam Hussein (when
Saddam was still in power) and they are directly connected to
that South Florida radical Muslim Goon that was recently arrested
for collecting and sending money *directly* to Al Qaeda!

(If you were living on another planet for the past two years, it
was Al Qaeda that was partially responsible for the murder of
thousands of people on 9/11/01).

(Source UPI, AP and Fox News.)


The next time you read bobspirts "war protest" you now know what
you are really looking at: A are sworn enemy of the USA,
pro-Iranian and pro-terrorist that advocate the murder of
innocent people. Moreover, he wants the free world
to return to a Stalin like draconian communist state. Now that is
what he is posting and marching for not "peace" like he is
disingenuously claiming.

If he really wanted peace they would be marching
to disarm the radical Muslim terrorists that are murdering
innocent people all over the world . . . and not marching to
support and protect such wanton murderers.

Joe
MSV RedCloud




Donal November 24th 03 10:48 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Manic ranting snipped
If he really wanted peace they would be marching
to disarm the radical Muslim terrorists that are murdering
innocent people all over the world . . . and not marching to
support and protect such wanton murderers.


Poor Joe.

Of course the lunatic socialist fringe were out on the march. However, I
wonder if you are really stupid enough to believe that the *biggest*
weekday protest in British history consisted purely of the lunatic left?


The reason that 95% of the protesters were marching is very simple. The
US and Britian have invaded a sovereign state with no justification. You
have strenghtened Al Q'aeda. In your well intentioned, but unintelligent
arrogance, you are breeding tororrow's terrorists. This simple fact
terrifies ordinary people in Britian.

I use the word "unintelligent" because you are too stupid to see that Iraq
had nothing to do with 9/11.

You also seem to be too stupid to understand that killing innocent, peace
loving, civilians in a faraway land will not have any reprecussions.

Your ignorance also leads you to believe that anybody who disagrees with
your point of view must be "anti-American".


What happened to the American "dream"? What happened to freedom of
expression? Why is it that anybody who thinks that Bush is wrong gets
labelled "anti-American"? ALL the evidence suggests that Iraq posed
little, or no threat to international security. ALL the evidence suggests
that Bush was wrong.


The charitable view is that Bush is an idiot. The uncharitable view is that
he is a liar who has lined his own, and his friends', pockets at the expence
of world stability for at least a generation.


You ignorant rednecks should grow up and look for the truth. The fact that
you have the biggest military machine that this planet has ever seen,
doesn't mean that you can use that power with impunity. You have already
displayed your ignorance of the outside world by assuming that the London
protestors came from all over Europe. There wouldn't have been more than a
couple of hundred non-British residents at that march.




Regards


Donal
--





Bobsprit November 24th 03 11:47 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Today, Bush made a big deal of pardoning two turkeys from being killed for a
thanksgiving dinner.

Cheney and Laura Bush were spared???!!!!

RB

Scott Vernon November 24th 03 11:58 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
wanna bet?

"Donal" wrote ..


The fact that
you have the biggest military machine that this planet has ever seen,
doesn't mean that you can use that power with impunity.



The_navigator© November 25th 03 12:27 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Yes, the chinese army is bigger.

Cheers MC

Scott Vernon wrote:

wanna bet?

"Donal" wrote ..



The fact that
you have the biggest military machine that this planet has ever seen,
doesn't mean that you can use that power with impunity.





Jonny Wilkinson November 25th 03 12:36 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
wanna bet?


Yeah. I'll bet 100,000 innocent lives that I'm right.


Regards


Donal
--


"Donal" wrote ..


The fact that
you have the biggest military machine that this planet has ever seen,
doesn't mean that you can use that power with impunity.





Joe November 25th 03 04:20 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Manic ranting snipped
If he really wanted peace they would be marching
to disarm the radical Muslim terrorists that are murdering
innocent people all over the world . . . and not marching to
support and protect such wanton murderers.


Poor Joe.

Of course the lunatic socialist fringe were out on the march. However, I
wonder if you are really stupid enough to believe that the *biggest*
weekday protest in British history consisted purely of the lunatic left?


The reason that 95% of the protesters were marching is very simple. The
US and Britian have invaded a sovereign state with no justification. You
have strenghtened Al Q'aeda. In your well intentioned, but unintelligent
arrogance, you are breeding tororrow's terrorists.



Donal, Read the news. Its hammer time. We are killing tomorrows
terrorist.



This simple fact
terrifies ordinary people in Britian.

I use the word "unintelligent" because you are too stupid to see that Iraq
had nothing to do with 9/11.



Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda..... Its a fact.



You also seem to be too stupid to understand that killing innocent, peace
loving, civilians in a faraway land will not have any reprecussions.



If the middle east can not take care of the redicals out to get the
USA we will take care of them for them.


Your ignorance also leads you to believe that anybody who disagrees with
your point of view must be "anti-American".


Bull****.



What happened to the American "dream"? What happened to freedom of
expression?



You seem to have a double standard. When I express my freedom of
speach and present the facts you call me anti american. You no nothing
about the American Dream. You did not grow up here, and its odvious
you no nothing about us.

We are fighting for the American dream. The freedom to go to work and
not get bombed or have some radical crash our planes into us.




Why is it that anybody who thinks that Bush is wrong gets
labelled "anti-American"? ALL the evidence suggests that Iraq posed
little, or no threat to international security. ALL the evidence suggests
that Bush was wrong.


Spoken like UDAy & Qusay the good time boys of bagdad.


The charitable view is that Bush is an idiot. The uncharitable view is that
he is a liar who has lined his own, and his friends', pockets at the expence
of world stability for at least a generation.


Get a clue Donal. Go over and ask all the Jihad Islamic muslims that
are brainwashed into killing us so called infidels to stop. When they
do, we will not have to hunt them down and drop the hammer on them.
Until then we will take care of our own.

Joe



You ignorant rednecks should grow up and look for the truth. The fact that
you have the biggest military machine that this planet has ever seen,
doesn't mean that you can use that power with impunity.




You have already
displayed your ignorance of the outside world by assuming that the London
protestors came from all over Europe. There wouldn't have been more than a
couple of hundred non-British residents at that march.




Regards


Donal
--


Bobsprit November 25th 03 04:59 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda..... Its a fact.

We also had ties to Al Qaeda. It's a fact.
You're truly an idiot.


Capt RB-A true patriot

Donal November 25th 03 07:17 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...


Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda..... Its a fact.


I believe that some of the 9/11 terrorists received training in the US.


Iraq was a secular state. Al Q'aeda wanted to replace all secular
governments with Islamic rule.



If the middle east can not take care of the redicals out to get the
USA we will take care of them for them.


That would be fine if you would identify them correctly. You had widespread
international support for the action in Afghanistan. Why do you think that
you do not have the same support for the action in Iraq?



You seem to have a double standard. When I express my freedom of
speach and present the facts you call me anti american.


I think that you have misunderstood me. I don't recall calling you
"anti-American". However, I do think that views such as yours are doing
America's reputation great harm in the international community. For
example, if Bush decided to attack Syria or Iran, he would not get British
support. The political fallout from Iraq has been too damaging for the
government. In fact, the British foreign minister has pre-empted any
requests for assistance by stating unequivocally that Britian will not
attack Syria.

You no nothing
about the American Dream. You did not grow up here, and its odvious
you no nothing about us.

We are fighting for the American dream. The freedom to go to work and
not get bombed or have some radical crash our planes into us.


If I believed that your actions would help the cause of freedom, then I
would agree with you. However, the current war in Iraq will create more
terrorists. The war is based on lies. The government that emerges in Iraq
is likely to be abaout as popular as Saddam was. A majority of Iraqis want
an Islamic administration, but the US is unlikely to allow that.
Therefore, the Iraqi people will be unhappy, and the region will be unstable
until the people get their will.

While I am on the subject, I wish that people would stop saying that Iraq
has been "liberated". They haven't had elections yet, so it is silly to say
that they are free.





Why is it that anybody who thinks that Bush is wrong gets
labelled "anti-American"? ALL the evidence suggests that Iraq posed
little, or no threat to international security. ALL the evidence

suggests
that Bush was wrong.


Spoken like UDAy & Qusay the good time boys of bagdad.


Let me say it again, slowly

A L L t h e e v i d e n c e suggests that bush was wrong.
If you disagree, then feel free to offer your reasoned opinion. Suggesting
that I speak like Uday, or Qusay is just plain stupid. You know that it is
stupid, I know that it is stupid and almost everybody else knows that it is
stupid.






The charitable view is that Bush is an idiot. The uncharitable view is

that
he is a liar who has lined his own, and his friends', pockets at the

expence
of world stability for at least a generation.


Get a clue Donal. Go over and ask all the Jihad Islamic muslims that
are brainwashed into killing us so called infidels to stop. When they
do, we will not have to hunt them down and drop the hammer on them.
Until then we will take care of our own.


Hey! I've no objection to the US hunting down Muslim, or any other,
terrorists. I'm just asking that you try to identify them first.



Regards


Donal
--



Jonathan Ganz November 25th 03 08:35 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Yeh, in flight training schools in Florida for example.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...


Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda..... Its a fact.


I believe that some of the 9/11 terrorists received training in the US.


Iraq was a secular state. Al Q'aeda wanted to replace all secular
governments with Islamic rule.



If the middle east can not take care of the redicals out to get the
USA we will take care of them for them.


That would be fine if you would identify them correctly. You had

widespread
international support for the action in Afghanistan. Why do you think

that
you do not have the same support for the action in Iraq?



You seem to have a double standard. When I express my freedom of
speach and present the facts you call me anti american.


I think that you have misunderstood me. I don't recall calling you
"anti-American". However, I do think that views such as yours are doing
America's reputation great harm in the international community. For
example, if Bush decided to attack Syria or Iran, he would not get

British
support. The political fallout from Iraq has been too damaging for the
government. In fact, the British foreign minister has pre-empted any
requests for assistance by stating unequivocally that Britian will not
attack Syria.

You no nothing
about the American Dream. You did not grow up here, and its odvious
you no nothing about us.

We are fighting for the American dream. The freedom to go to work and
not get bombed or have some radical crash our planes into us.


If I believed that your actions would help the cause of freedom, then I
would agree with you. However, the current war in Iraq will create more
terrorists. The war is based on lies. The government that emerges in

Iraq
is likely to be abaout as popular as Saddam was. A majority of Iraqis

want
an Islamic administration, but the US is unlikely to allow that.
Therefore, the Iraqi people will be unhappy, and the region will be

unstable
until the people get their will.

While I am on the subject, I wish that people would stop saying that Iraq
has been "liberated". They haven't had elections yet, so it is silly to

say
that they are free.





Why is it that anybody who thinks that Bush is wrong gets
labelled "anti-American"? ALL the evidence suggests that Iraq posed
little, or no threat to international security. ALL the evidence

suggests
that Bush was wrong.


Spoken like UDAy & Qusay the good time boys of bagdad.


Let me say it again, slowly

A L L t h e e v i d e n c e suggests that bush was wrong.
If you disagree, then feel free to offer your reasoned opinion.

Suggesting
that I speak like Uday, or Qusay is just plain stupid. You know that it

is
stupid, I know that it is stupid and almost everybody else knows that it

is
stupid.






The charitable view is that Bush is an idiot. The uncharitable view

is
that
he is a liar who has lined his own, and his friends', pockets at the

expence
of world stability for at least a generation.


Get a clue Donal. Go over and ask all the Jihad Islamic muslims that
are brainwashed into killing us so called infidels to stop. When they
do, we will not have to hunt them down and drop the hammer on them.
Until then we will take care of our own.


Hey! I've no objection to the US hunting down Muslim, or any other,
terrorists. I'm just asking that you try to identify them first.



Regards


Donal
--





Simple Simon November 25th 03 08:48 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Poor sods beating a dead horse!

Fact: The U.S.A. did what needed to be done in Iraq.

Fact: Terrorists now know they no longer have a free ride.

Fact: Pacifists can whine all they want and it ain't gonna
change a thing.

S.Simon


"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...


Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda..... Its a fact.


I believe that some of the 9/11 terrorists received training in the US.


Iraq was a secular state. Al Q'aeda wanted to replace all secular
governments with Islamic rule.



If the middle east can not take care of the redicals out to get the
USA we will take care of them for them.


That would be fine if you would identify them correctly. You had widespread
international support for the action in Afghanistan. Why do you think that
you do not have the same support for the action in Iraq?



You seem to have a double standard. When I express my freedom of
speach and present the facts you call me anti american.


I think that you have misunderstood me. I don't recall calling you
"anti-American". However, I do think that views such as yours are doing
America's reputation great harm in the international community. For
example, if Bush decided to attack Syria or Iran, he would not get British
support. The political fallout from Iraq has been too damaging for the
government. In fact, the British foreign minister has pre-empted any
requests for assistance by stating unequivocally that Britian will not
attack Syria.

You no nothing
about the American Dream. You did not grow up here, and its odvious
you no nothing about us.

We are fighting for the American dream. The freedom to go to work and
not get bombed or have some radical crash our planes into us.


If I believed that your actions would help the cause of freedom, then I
would agree with you. However, the current war in Iraq will create more
terrorists. The war is based on lies. The government that emerges in Iraq
is likely to be abaout as popular as Saddam was. A majority of Iraqis want
an Islamic administration, but the US is unlikely to allow that.
Therefore, the Iraqi people will be unhappy, and the region will be unstable
until the people get their will.

While I am on the subject, I wish that people would stop saying that Iraq
has been "liberated". They haven't had elections yet, so it is silly to say
that they are free.





Why is it that anybody who thinks that Bush is wrong gets
labelled "anti-American"? ALL the evidence suggests that Iraq posed
little, or no threat to international security. ALL the evidence

suggests
that Bush was wrong.


Spoken like UDAy & Qusay the good time boys of bagdad.


Let me say it again, slowly

A L L t h e e v i d e n c e suggests that bush was wrong.
If you disagree, then feel free to offer your reasoned opinion. Suggesting
that I speak like Uday, or Qusay is just plain stupid. You know that it is
stupid, I know that it is stupid and almost everybody else knows that it is
stupid.






The charitable view is that Bush is an idiot. The uncharitable view is

that
he is a liar who has lined his own, and his friends', pockets at the

expence
of world stability for at least a generation.


Get a clue Donal. Go over and ask all the Jihad Islamic muslims that
are brainwashed into killing us so called infidels to stop. When they
do, we will not have to hunt them down and drop the hammer on them.
Until then we will take care of our own.


Hey! I've no objection to the US hunting down Muslim, or any other,
terrorists. I'm just asking that you try to identify them first.



Regards


Donal
--





Ozzy's Oz Moh sis November 25th 03 10:48 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 

Donals Dilema wrote in message
...
On 25 Nov 2003 08:20:55 -0800, (Joe) wrote:


Donal, Read the news. Its hammer time. We are killing tomorrows
terrorist.


Yep, all good sentiments
Pity you've gone after the wrong people and stirred a hornets nest
that you will never supress....ever.
Look forward to a world of terror and fear.


Joe still lives in the "Hollywood" world. He believes that America *is*
invincible. He is naive enough to believe that his president could not make
a mistake. I suspect that he is naive enough to think that the terrorists
will not get past the immigration officials.



Get a clue Donal. Go over and ask all the Jihad Islamic muslims that
are brainwashed into killing us so called infidels to stop. When they
do, we will not have to hunt them down and drop the hammer on them.
Until then we will take care of our own.


Damn you guys are good at rewriting history. You've been sticking your
noses into other countries affairs for60 years to suit your aims and
needs then get ****ed off when it all comes back to bite your arse.
Get a clue...YOU created the terrorist all by yourselves!!


Joe doesn't understand this at all.



In fact, you used the terrorist for your own good, financed, fed and
armed them!



I don't think that Joe is ready to hear this yet.



Regards


Donal
--




The_navigator© November 25th 03 11:06 PM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
You are correct. Both Iraq and Osama are tied to the earth by gravity.
By that same force they are tied to each other.

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:



Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda..... Its a fact.



Bobsprit November 26th 03 12:18 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Fact: Terrorists now know they no longer have a free ride.

Absolutely true, Now they're hardened.

Terrorists love two things.
1) Attention
2) Battle

Bush is serving them up just the way they like it. Anyone who's written about
terrorism and the mentality of it knows Bush is playing the game their way.

RB

Bobsprit November 26th 03 12:19 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Joe still lives in the "Hollywood" world. He believes that America *is*
invincible.


I'm suggesting REALLY BIG fenders to put all around our coastline. That oughta
work, if MC doesn't trip over em.

RB

Simple Simon November 26th 03 12:32 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Fact: Terrorists now know they no longer have a free ride.


Absolutely true, Now they're hardened.

Terrorists love two things.
1) Attention
2) Battle



Bwahahahahahahaha! Read the news. The terrorists
in Iraq have slacked off their attacks against American
troops in the last couple of weeks. They decided it
was too costly and too many of them were dying in
the fight against soldiers who fight back and kill them.

Instead, being cowards at heart, these terrorists
are now putting the major emphasis on butchering
up civilian Iraqis.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104003,00.html

There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

S.Simon



Bobsprit November 26th 03 12:35 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

The very idea that terrorists are brave or cowards is crazy. They are insane.
They won't ever stop, certainly not against the tiny forces we're presenting to
them. US effort is a drop in the bucket and will fuel horrible attacks and more
death, thanks to Bush.

RB

two wheels November 26th 03 12:44 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
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On 26 Nov 2003 00:35:00 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

The very idea that terrorists are brave or cowards is crazy. They are
insane. They won't ever stop, certainly not against the tiny forces
we're presenting to them. US effort is a drop in the bucket and will
fuel horrible attacks and more death, thanks to Bush.

RB


Tiny forces? Nonsense. The problem isn't the size of our force. It's
more than enough if we knew where the terrorists who plant the roadside
bombs were hiding. The problem is sorting out the terrorists from the
innocent--that's the hard problem. Finding the terrorists is the one
thing that the newly-trained Iraqi forces will be able to do much
better than we ever could.

two wheels


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Simple Simon November 26th 03 12:51 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
The present situation with no domestic attacks since
President Bush commenced the war against terrorism
makes your statement sound as stupid as you look . . .

The only problem dead terrorists present is burial
space.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

The very idea that terrorists are brave or cowards is crazy. They are insane.
They won't ever stop, certainly not against the tiny forces we're presenting to
them. US effort is a drop in the bucket and will fuel horrible attacks and more
death, thanks to Bush.

RB




Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 02:23 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Great news. Now, the Iraqis will just think they were even better off
before we invaded. So, we could claim that Bushy is murdering innocent
Iraqis. Maybe he should try lying to them!

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...
Fact: Terrorists now know they no longer have a free ride.


Absolutely true, Now they're hardened.

Terrorists love two things.
1) Attention
2) Battle



Bwahahahahahahaha! Read the news. The terrorists
in Iraq have slacked off their attacks against American
troops in the last couple of weeks. They decided it
was too costly and too many of them were dying in
the fight against soldiers who fight back and kill them.

Instead, being cowards at heart, these terrorists
are now putting the major emphasis on butchering
up civilian Iraqis.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104003,00.html

There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

S.Simon





Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 02:26 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
But that's the point isn't it... we *don't* know where they're hiding,
and we have neither the human assets in the population to help
us, nor do we have adequate ground forces to make the attacks
impossible or so costly as to be ineffective.

And, the Iraqis are better at it you say... well, maybe they should
be in charge.... oops, finally Bushy and team realized this. Well, we
all make mistakes, such as not having a plan to begin with?????

"two wheels" wrote in message
...
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Hash: SHA1

On 26 Nov 2003 00:35:00 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

The very idea that terrorists are brave or cowards is crazy. They are
insane. They won't ever stop, certainly not against the tiny forces
we're presenting to them. US effort is a drop in the bucket and will
fuel horrible attacks and more death, thanks to Bush.

RB


Tiny forces? Nonsense. The problem isn't the size of our force. It's
more than enough if we knew where the terrorists who plant the roadside
bombs were hiding. The problem is sorting out the terrorists from the
innocent--that's the hard problem. Finding the terrorists is the one
thing that the newly-trained Iraqi forces will be able to do much
better than we ever could.

two wheels


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Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 02:28 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
This has nothing to do with Iraq you idiot. Even your hero idiot
Bushy said so.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The present situation with no domestic attacks since
President Bush commenced the war against terrorism
makes your statement sound as stupid as you look . . .

The only problem dead terrorists present is burial
space.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...
There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

The very idea that terrorists are brave or cowards is crazy. They are

insane.
They won't ever stop, certainly not against the tiny forces we're

presenting to
them. US effort is a drop in the bucket and will fuel horrible attacks

and more
death, thanks to Bush.

RB






two wheels November 26th 03 03:45 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:26:57 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

But that's the point isn't it... we *don't* know where they're hiding,
and we have neither the human assets in the population to help
us, nor do we have adequate ground forces to make the attacks
impossible or so costly as to be ineffective.

And, the Iraqis are better at it you say... well, maybe they should
be in charge.... oops, finally Bushy and team realized this. Well, we
all make mistakes, such as not having a plan to begin with?????


They "realized" this from the start, which I'm sure you know. Bush has
been talking about a democratically-elected Iraqi taking over a Free
Iraq since the war began. It's in every speech, almost. The dirty
little secret is that it's only the Iraqi Baath Party killers that are
eager and willing to pick up the mantle of power tomorrow at 7 AM--or
anytime they can. Everyone else--everyone that you'd want in power over
there--wants the security problems handled first. The Iraqi council is
in no hurry, and if you've been following this, it was Bremer that was
kicking the Iraqi council's ass to spur them to get their constitution
finished, so elections could happen sooner. Since the Iraqi council
doesn't seem willing to finish their constitution on time, Plan B is an
interim government headed by one member of the council that they pick
to take over till proper elections can happen, under the new
constitutional process.

This is Bush from two and a half months ago:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0030907-1.html

- --------------------
[snip]

First, we are taking direct action against the terrorists in the Iraqi
theater...

[snip]

Second, we are committed to expanding international cooperation in the
reconstruction and security...

[snip]

I recognize that not all of our friends agreed with our decision to
enforce the Security Council resolutions and remove Saddam Hussein from
power. Yet we cannot let past differences interfere with present
duties. Terrorists in Iraq have attacked representatives of the
civilized world, and opposing them must be the cause of the civilized
world. Members of the United Nations now have an opportunity -- and the
responsibility -- to assume a broader role in assuring that Iraq
becomes a free and democratic nation.

Third, we are encouraging the orderly transfer of sovereignty and
authority to the Iraqi people. Our coalition came to Iraq as liberators
and we will depart as liberators. Right now Iraq has its own Governing
Council, comprised of 25 leaders representing Iraq's diverse people.
The Governing Council recently appointed cabinet ministers to run
government departments. Already more than 90 percent of towns and
cities have functioning local governments, which are restoring basic
services. We're helping to train civil defense forces to keep order,
and an Iraqi police service to enforce the law, a facilities protection
service, Iraqi border guards to help secure the borders, and a new
Iraqi army. In all these roles, there are now some 60,000 Iraqi
citizens under arms, defending the security of their own country, and
we are accelerating the training of more.

Iraq is ready to take the next steps toward self-government. The
Security Council resolution we introduce will encourage Iraq's
Governing Council to submit a plan and a timetable for the drafting of
a constitution and for free elections. From the outset, I have
expressed confidence in the ability of the Iraqi people to govern
themselves. Now they must rise to the responsibilities of a free people
and secure the blessings of their own liberty.

Our strategy in Iraq will require new resources. We have conducted a
thorough assessment of our military and reconstruction needs in Iraq,
and also in Afghanistan. I will soon submit to Congress a request for
$87 billion. The request will cover ongoing military and intelligence
operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, which we expect will
cost $66 billion over the next year. This budget request will also
support our commitment to helping the Iraqi and Afghan people rebuild
their own nations, after decades of oppression and mismanagement. We
will provide funds to help them improve security. And we will help them
to restore basic services, such as electricity and water, and to build
new schools, roads, and medical clinics. This effort is essential to
the stability of those nations, and therefore, to our own security. Now
and in the future, we will support our troops and we will keep our word
to the more than 50 million people of Afghanistan and Iraq.

- --------------------

"two wheels" wrote in message
.. .
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On 26 Nov 2003 00:35:00 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

There are many misconceptions among you pacifists
and liberals. One of the worst of these is that terrorists
are brave. If they were anything but cowards they
would not have to be terrorists.

The very idea that terrorists are brave or cowards is crazy. They
are insane. They won't ever stop, certainly not against the tiny
forces we're presenting to them. US effort is a drop in the bucket
and will fuel horrible attacks and more death, thanks to Bush.

RB


Tiny forces? Nonsense. The problem isn't the size of our force. It's
more than enough if we knew where the terrorists who plant the
roadside bombs were hiding. The problem is sorting out the
terrorists from the innocent--that's the hard problem. Finding the
terrorists is the one thing that the newly-trained Iraqi forces will
be able to do much
better than we ever could.

two wheels


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Bobsprit November 26th 03 04:33 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
The present situation with no domestic attacks since
President Bush commenced the war against terrorism
makes your statement sound as stupid as you look .

Yes, and my anti-Polar Bear alarm is also working great! No polar bears since I
installed it in the lobby!

RB

Bobsprit November 26th 03 11:44 AM

With no job who pays bobspirt ?
 
Bwahahahahahahaha! Read the news. The terrorists
in Iraq have slacked off their attacks against American
troops in the last couple of weeks.



That's funny because even our own government calls it a shift of focus by
terrorists, now hitting Iraq people who may support the US.
Neal, you work very hard to support your fantasys.

RB

Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 08:45 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
Except the lying about the WMDs in the first place and getting
us into a quagmire war that was not necessary because diplomacy
wasn't finished yet and not having an exist strategy and not actually
having enough troops to get the job done and putting his Afganistan
adventure on the back burner (and by the way not capturing Osama)
and not getting Saddam either once we got there and claiming that the
"mission 'was' accomplished" and allowing Ashcrap to infringe on our
civil liberties and threatening librarians of all people with jail if they
don't cooperate and basically *ignoring* the whole issue of homeland
security (something Clinton actually started during his time in office)
until the planes were out of the hangers (we wouldn't want to disparage
horses outside the barn), Bushy is sooo right and truthful it makes me
sick. The fact that he's squandered all of the goodwill that we had after
911, that the economy is in terrible shape yet, and that he lacks the
intelligence to even understand the intelligence briefings, so he has to
rely on Chumpy to tell him what to do (a guy who claimed in the
Chumpy/Lieberman debate that Haliburton made money without
gov't assistance... a bald-face lie, but which sounded great at the
time), and the fact that he's a reformed drunk and drug user, why
I'm just sooo impressed with him.

"two wheels" wrote in message
...
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This is Bush from two and a half months ago:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0030907-1.html

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Simple Simon November 26th 03 09:23 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
It is very humorous to read the rantings of a current
drug abuser condemning a former alcoholic.

Bwahahahahahahahhaha

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Except the lying about the WMDs in the first place and getting
us into a quagmire war that was not necessary because diplomacy
wasn't finished yet and not having an exist strategy and not actually
having enough troops to get the job done and putting his Afganistan
adventure on the back burner (and by the way not capturing Osama)
and not getting Saddam either once we got there and claiming that the
"mission 'was' accomplished" and allowing Ashcrap to infringe on our
civil liberties and threatening librarians of all people with jail if they
don't cooperate and basically *ignoring* the whole issue of homeland
security (something Clinton actually started during his time in office)
until the planes were out of the hangers (we wouldn't want to disparage
horses outside the barn), Bushy is sooo right and truthful it makes me
sick. The fact that he's squandered all of the goodwill that we had after
911, that the economy is in terrible shape yet, and that he lacks the
intelligence to even understand the intelligence briefings, so he has to
rely on Chumpy to tell him what to do (a guy who claimed in the
Chumpy/Lieberman debate that Haliburton made money without
gov't assistance... a bald-face lie, but which sounded great at the
time), and the fact that he's a reformed drunk and drug user, why
I'm just sooo impressed with him.

"two wheels" wrote in message
...
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This is Bush from two and a half months ago:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0030907-1.html

- --------------------






two wheels November 26th 03 10:13 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
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Ganz,

You really need to leave that ideological ghetto (Marin Co.) sometime,
and experience the rest of America. We're nice. We won't hurt you. :-)

I did have a sourdough-crust pizza in Tiburon one time, that was really
great, but I sure wouldn't want to live in Marin, even if I could
afford it.

two wheels


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:45:54 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Except the lying about the WMDs in the first place and getting
us into a quagmire war that was not necessary because diplomacy
wasn't finished yet and not having an exist strategy and not actually
having enough troops to get the job done and putting his Afganistan
adventure on the back burner (and by the way not capturing Osama)
and not getting Saddam either once we got there and claiming that the
"mission 'was' accomplished" and allowing Ashcrap to infringe on our
civil liberties and threatening librarians of all people with jail if
they don't cooperate and basically *ignoring* the whole issue of
homeland
security (something Clinton actually started during his time in
office) until the planes were out of the hangers (we wouldn't want to
disparage horses outside the barn), Bushy is sooo right and truthful
it makes me sick. The fact that he's squandered all of the goodwill
that we had after 911, that the economy is in terrible shape yet, and
that he lacks the
intelligence to even understand the intelligence briefings, so he has
to rely on Chumpy to tell him what to do (a guy who claimed in the
Chumpy/Lieberman debate that Haliburton made money without
gov't assistance... a bald-face lie, but which sounded great at the
time), and the fact that he's a reformed drunk and drug user, why
I'm just sooo impressed with him.


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Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 11:05 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
He's a current alcoholic (technically a "recovering" alcholic, since there
is
no cure. And, he's a former drug user. The only drug I've ever abused
(and it was consensual) was coffee. Did I hear it right that you've stopped
abusing your cat now that it died?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
It is very humorous to read the rantings of a current
drug abuser condemning a former alcoholic.

Bwahahahahahahahhaha

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
Except the lying about the WMDs in the first place and getting
us into a quagmire war that was not necessary because diplomacy
wasn't finished yet and not having an exist strategy and not actually
having enough troops to get the job done and putting his Afganistan
adventure on the back burner (and by the way not capturing Osama)
and not getting Saddam either once we got there and claiming that the
"mission 'was' accomplished" and allowing Ashcrap to infringe on our
civil liberties and threatening librarians of all people with jail if

they
don't cooperate and basically *ignoring* the whole issue of homeland
security (something Clinton actually started during his time in office)
until the planes were out of the hangers (we wouldn't want to disparage
horses outside the barn), Bushy is sooo right and truthful it makes me
sick. The fact that he's squandered all of the goodwill that we had

after
911, that the economy is in terrible shape yet, and that he lacks the
intelligence to even understand the intelligence briefings, so he has to
rely on Chumpy to tell him what to do (a guy who claimed in the
Chumpy/Lieberman debate that Haliburton made money without
gov't assistance... a bald-face lie, but which sounded great at the
time), and the fact that he's a reformed drunk and drug user, why
I'm just sooo impressed with him.

"two wheels" wrote in message
...
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This is Bush from two and a half months ago:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0030907-1.html

- --------------------








Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 11:06 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
I only visit Marin, I don't live there. Do you know how many people
in Marin it takes to screw in a lightbulb?

"two wheels" wrote in message
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Ganz,

You really need to leave that ideological ghetto (Marin Co.) sometime,
and experience the rest of America. We're nice. We won't hurt you. :-)

I did have a sourdough-crust pizza in Tiburon one time, that was really
great, but I sure wouldn't want to live in Marin, even if I could
afford it.

two wheels


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:45:54 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Except the lying about the WMDs in the first place and getting
us into a quagmire war that was not necessary because diplomacy
wasn't finished yet and not having an exist strategy and not actually
having enough troops to get the job done and putting his Afganistan
adventure on the back burner (and by the way not capturing Osama)
and not getting Saddam either once we got there and claiming that the
"mission 'was' accomplished" and allowing Ashcrap to infringe on our
civil liberties and threatening librarians of all people with jail if
they don't cooperate and basically *ignoring* the whole issue of
homeland
security (something Clinton actually started during his time in
office) until the planes were out of the hangers (we wouldn't want to
disparage horses outside the barn), Bushy is sooo right and truthful
it makes me sick. The fact that he's squandered all of the goodwill
that we had after 911, that the economy is in terrible shape yet, and
that he lacks the
intelligence to even understand the intelligence briefings, so he has
to rely on Chumpy to tell him what to do (a guy who claimed in the
Chumpy/Lieberman debate that Haliburton made money without
gov't assistance... a bald-face lie, but which sounded great at the
time), and the fact that he's a reformed drunk and drug user, why
I'm just sooo impressed with him.


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Jonathan Ganz November 26th 03 11:06 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
No. They just abuse kids... oh wait, that's Los Angeles.

Donals Dilemma wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:13:23 GMT, two wheels
wrote:


Ganz,

You really need to leave that ideological ghetto (Marin Co.) sometime,
and experience the rest of America. We're nice. We won't hurt you. :-)

I did have a sourdough-crust pizza in Tiburon one time, that was really
great, but I sure wouldn't want to live in Marin, even if I could
afford it.

two wheels


What, they don't smoke dope and take drugs like the rest of the
country?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





The_navigator© November 26th 03 11:17 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
10.

Cheers MC

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I only visit Marin, I don't live there. Do you know how many people
in Marin it takes to screw in a lightbulb?

"two wheels" wrote in message
...

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Ganz,

You really need to leave that ideological ghetto (Marin Co.) sometime,
and experience the rest of America. We're nice. We won't hurt you. :-)

I did have a sourdough-crust pizza in Tiburon one time, that was really
great, but I sure wouldn't want to live in Marin, even if I could
afford it.

two wheels


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:45:54 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:


Except the lying about the WMDs in the first place and getting
us into a quagmire war that was not necessary because diplomacy
wasn't finished yet and not having an exist strategy and not actually
having enough troops to get the job done and putting his Afganistan
adventure on the back burner (and by the way not capturing Osama)
and not getting Saddam either once we got there and claiming that the
"mission 'was' accomplished" and allowing Ashcrap to infringe on our
civil liberties and threatening librarians of all people with jail if
they don't cooperate and basically *ignoring* the whole issue of
homeland
security (something Clinton actually started during his time in
office) until the planes were out of the hangers (we wouldn't want to
disparage horses outside the barn), Bushy is sooo right and truthful
it makes me sick. The fact that he's squandered all of the goodwill
that we had after 911, that the economy is in terrible shape yet, and
that he lacks the
intelligence to even understand the intelligence briefings, so he has
to rely on Chumpy to tell him what to do (a guy who claimed in the
Chumpy/Lieberman debate that Haliburton made money without
gov't assistance... a bald-face lie, but which sounded great at the
time), and the fact that he's a reformed drunk and drug user, why
I'm just sooo impressed with him.


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Bobsprit November 26th 03 11:22 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
It is very humorous to read the rantings of a current
drug abuser condemning a former alcoholic.

Not fair at all. Bush is reformed.


RB

Donal November 26th 03 11:38 PM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
It is very humorous to read the rantings of a current
drug abuser condemning a former alcoholic.


"former alcoholic"??? I didn't know that they had discovered a cure.


Simon, you are a redneck. Get used to it. Every time that you write
something in support of Bush, you emphasise your ignorance. You see - the
world recognises that Bush is not only an imbecile, but also a murderous
liar, who will bring havoc to the civilised world, and to the US.

You should stick to sailing subjects, where your ignorance impresses us.



Regards


Donal
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Simple Simon November 27th 03 12:02 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 

"Donal" wrote in message news:bq3dgo$4qg$2
Simon, you are a redneck. Get used to it. Every time that you write
something in support of Bush, you emphasise your ignorance. You see - the
world recognises that Bush is not only an imbecile, but also a murderous
liar, who will bring havoc to the civilised world, and to the US.



You forgot to mention "shoe in for second term".

Mr. Bush is ahead by a landslide in every recent poll.
He's got 20 or 30 percentage points on every one of
the Democrat wannabes. What bugs you liberals more
even than the popularity of President Bush is the fact
that said popularity indicates the left has lost in its
attempt to ruin this great country.

You just can't seem to get it through your thick skull
that the 'world' can take its lame opinions and go f*ck
itself. You pathetic, pacifist, socialist minority don't a
'world' make. You give yourselves way way too much
credit. We patriotic citizens of the United States of
American couldn't care less what any brain-dead socialist
rabble thinks.

S.Simon



two wheels November 27th 03 01:44 AM

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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:17:55 +1300, The_navigator©
wrote:

10.

Cheers MC

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I only visit Marin, I don't live there. Do you know how many people
in Marin it takes to screw in a lightbulb?


1 to screw it in, and 9 to share the experience.

tw



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Jonathan Ganz November 27th 03 08:32 AM

Bush is the TRUE coward
 
Still waiting for you to accept my modest bet on the outcome
of the race.... $5 put up or shut up. Don't you realize that if
you win the bet, you'll have bragging rights here for years to
come, and you'll be $5 up and I'll be out a whopping $5.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message news:bq3dgo$4qg$2
Simon, you are a redneck. Get used to it. Every time that you write
something in support of Bush, you emphasise your ignorance. You see -

the
world recognises that Bush is not only an imbecile, but also a murderous
liar, who will bring havoc to the civilised world, and to the US.



You forgot to mention "shoe in for second term".

Mr. Bush is ahead by a landslide in every recent poll.
He's got 20 or 30 percentage points on every one of
the Democrat wannabes. What bugs you liberals more
even than the popularity of President Bush is the fact
that said popularity indicates the left has lost in its
attempt to ruin this great country.

You just can't seem to get it through your thick skull
that the 'world' can take its lame opinions and go f*ck
itself. You pathetic, pacifist, socialist minority don't a
'world' make. You give yourselves way way too much
credit. We patriotic citizens of the United States of
American couldn't care less what any brain-dead socialist
rabble thinks.

S.Simon






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