Seems to me there are several ways around this,
not the least of which is to see what heppens when you go without these
'compounds.' You haven't died yet, I assume, so how do you know for sure?


katysails wrote:
There's more truth than you know in that statement. When we take in an admission, the resident is often on a drug regime that would intimidate most people. We have had admissions with people on from 20-30 drugs.

A lot of people are walking chemical experiments.

Does the FDA mandate testing drugs in combinations? No.

Do drugs interact with each other, or cause bodily reactions which change the body's reaction to other drugs? Absolutely.

Do we have any idea what the effects of all these drug combinations are? You gotta be kidding.

Most people would rather take a lot of drugs, and complain about how much they cost, and not feel good much of the time, instead of making changes in their lives & their habits to become healthier.

State nursing home law mandates that we start weaning. It's amazing what happens. We usually get the person down to 5-6 necessaries and voila!

their health improves.

Very sensible IMHO. BTW are you sure you're not violating HIPPAA rules in joining this discussion


... Part of that problem, and part of the problem why there are medical accidents, is that people go to more than one doctor and use more than one pharmacy. The right hand does not know what the left is doing and the people begin to medicate themselves to death. When they arrive at a nursing facility, everything is placed under the jurisdiction of the medical director and one pharmacy...they begin the process. If it's cardiac drugs Vito's on, much can be done to eliminate there necessity
by diet and exercise. He is probably a diabetic, though, and is referring to his insulin. He mustn't tamper with that one.

True enough, but a proper diet can still help.


At least not until they figure out how to do a pancreatic transplant or find a way to make stem cells regenerate pancreatic tissue. (i can say that now that I have been informed that you can get stem cells in your own body and don't need the assistance of an unborn baby).

I don't understand why anybody is against stem cell research. Are you against the space program too? If God didn't want it to happen, She would have made it impossible in the first place.

We will see regeneration of tissue within a decade or two, provided we don't see a major collapse of science programs. Of course, it may happen in Australia or China or Poland, rather than the USA, if this country continues it's current trend of trying to turn back the clock to about 1680.

Back to the drug thing, why do the same people who want to fight a "War On Drugs" also want the gov't to subsidize mass hypochondria?

Boats are fine, it's people that I can't figure out!

DSK

BTW are you sure you're not violating HIPPAA rules in joining this =
discussion

Since I am the HIPAA privacy officer for our facility, I will explain =
how that works. As long as information is shared that could not lead to =
the identification of any particular individual, then it is ok to =
discuss. Thus, a general discussion of medical practices, policies and =
procedures is allowable. Also a discussion about generalities in the =
system when they apply to groups of people. There is no way that anyone =
could interpret any of the information I recounted could be attributable =
to a particular person. Since we have residents come in that for that =
particular profile on a regular basis, it becomes a generic discussion.

As far as the discussion regarding stem cell research...now that I have =
read more and have discovered that a body can generate its' own stem =
cells, I have no problem with it. Only problem I have is when it's =
linked to the products of abortion (dead baby tissue). And of course, =
I'm not against the space program. I'm all for being discovered by =
alien lifeforms that know more than us. If they're out there, they're =
not making contact because we're not worthy of it yet. BTW, God is =
androgynous...neither male nor female...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

katysails wrote:


Since I am the HIPAA privacy officer for our facility, I will explain how that works. As long as information is shared that could not lead to the identification of any particular individual, then it is ok to discuss. Thus, a general discussion of medical practices, policies and procedures is allowable. Also a discussion about generalities in the system when they apply to groups of people. There is no way that anyone could interpret any of the information I recounted could be attributable to a particular person. Since we have residents come in that for that particular profile on a regular basis, it becomes a generic discussion.

Wasn't ths pretty much the same rules and professional curtesy before HIPAA? Anyway my understanding is that the new rules imposed by HIPAA will change a lot of things about access to medical records and will be an intense PITA to most people. And it won't help at all with privacy of medical records IMHO.



As far as the discussion regarding stem cell research...now that I have read more and have discovered that a body can generate its' own stem cells, I have no problem with it.

Of course the body makes new sem cells. That's where blood comes from. But it's not necessarily possible to make new tissue from such stem cells, in any event it's a long long way off if it is possible at all.


Only problem I have is when it's linked to the products of abortion (dead baby tissue).

Not a good idea IMHO, either. But it is just as well that dead baby tissue be used for some constructive purpose, as long as the incentive to make new dead baby tissue is not increased. After all, older people donate useful organs.


And of course, I'm not against the space program. I'm all for being discovered by alien lifeforms that know more than us. If they're out there, they're not making contact because we're not worthy of it yet.

When I was a kid, they kept telling us that we'd have moon colonies and space ships and all kinds of cool stuff. But no, they lied.... it was (and still is) possible. We just have to get motivated. As Robert Heinlein said, "Up in space it is raining soup, and we haven't even invented buckets." Another consideration is that space is the ultimate military high ground, and other space programs are catching up to ours.


BTW, God is androgynous...neither male nor female...

It makes sense to me that God would have no polarization with regard to human sexual identity. Obviously God is above & beyond all that (unless you like certain old time legends). I just like calling God "She" because it ****es off certain types of people.

Regards
Doug King

Wasn't this pretty much the same rules and professional curtsey before =
HIPAA?=20
Sort of, but people were much too lax and information was being shared =
where it shouldn't be shared. With the advent of computer billing =
online, too much information was being made available to the public and =
too many errors were made when faxing medical records.

Anyway my understanding is that the new rules imposed by HIPAA will =
change a lot of things about access to medical records and will be an =
intense PITA to most people.=20
What changes is that insurance carriers will now be limited as to where =
they can share the information and where they can use it for "polls" and =
"research", etc. It's a paperwork PITA, that's for sure, but do you =
really want your insurance carrier sharing your information with the =
government or anyone else that may request it without your knowledge?

And it won't help at all with privacy of medical records IMHO.
It already is. There is a heightened sense of awareness of the =
propriety of sharing medical information. Along with that, we have =
curtailed idle gossip and talk at the nurse's station, in the halls, and =
with excluded family members through education programs. (When I catch =
an employee breaking the privacy codes, they are awarded a pink =
hippo...it is not a badge of honor...and a duplicate goes in their =
employee file.)



--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Wasn't this pretty much the same rules and professional curtsey before HIPAA?

katysails wrote:
Sort of, but people were much too lax and information was being shared where it shouldn't be shared. With the advent of computer billing online, too much information was being made available to the public and too many errors were made when faxing medical records.

Yes, an update was well overdue. The way information is transmitted has changed considerably.



What changes is that insurance carriers will now be limited as to where they can share the information and where they can use it for "polls" and "research", etc.

OK, thanks. I may have had this backwards, the opinion of some of the folks in this field around here think it will make it easier for insurance companies to "proprietize" an individuals medical info.


It's a paperwork PITA, that's for sure, but do you really want your insurance carrier sharing your information with the government or anyone else that may request it without your knowledge?

NO!! The more so since that info is of commercial value nowadays. If anybody is going to turn a profit on my medical secrets, it should be me!


(When I catch an employee breaking the privacy codes, they are awarded a pink hippo...it is not a badge of honor...and a duplicate goes in their employee file.)

That's a good idea. You should make them wear a little pink hippo pinned like a brooch... no sorry, can't do that, it might be construed as "weight-ism."

Regards
Doug King