Vito Steockli wrote:


A belief is based on incomplete sometimes erroneous info even tho it may be
true. A fact is not.

Yep.

And some peoples 'facts' are, in fact, just beliefs.


... not going to a doctor? Sure it's practical,....

It would be if we were allowed to treat ourselves but we are not, at least
not in the USA. I need a couple simple compounds to stay alive. The only
legal way I can get them is by obtaining a MD's permission. Ergo it is
impractical for me to avoid seeing an MD regularly.

Ah, well, but that's just you. Seems to me there are several ways around this,
not the least of which is to see what heppens when you go without these
'compounds.' You haven't died yet, I assume, so how do you know for sure?



.... we're talking about over 125,000 people being killed

I suggest you consider what you mean by 'being killed.'

AFAIK no doctor has ever killed anybody. Regrettably, it is all to common for
doctors to fail to save people from fatal diseases & conditions. That's not the
doctors fault.


.... if I were being paid MD's wages I'd expect to be at least as error
free as say the early space program. A nonsupervisory PhD scientist gets
paid $120/yr by our rich uncle Sam whilst most MDs think themselves
underpaid if they earn less than 10X that.

And many of them have hundreds of thousands of doallars of debt they undertook
to get through medical school, too.

So, is your resentment against doctors based on the belief that they're rich and
you're not? That's just plain Bolshevism. Says far more about you than about
them.

Of course, some doctors *are* rich. And of the ones who are, some have worked
incredibly hard to earn it. In any event, if you resent paying a doctor lots of
money, and doubt the doctors ability to cure you, then don't go to one. It's
just the same as not buying a boat you don't like.



.... Also remember that between 60% and 99% of the cost of your
medical care comes out of somebody elses pocket...

Smoke and mirrors!

No, it isn't.


When I bid on a cost plus contract I include medical
benefits as part of wages, then add overhead and finally profit. I could
give that money to the workers without changing profit but could not legally
keep it as profit. The company is simply a middle man distributing part of
each workers' earnings to some medical insurer.

And this isn't 'smoke & mirrors'? Has nothing to do with who pays your doctor
bills.

If your doctor handed you a bill for all services he (and his staff) rendered,
then you'd be paying your doctor bill (and it would cost a lot less). But you
don't. Instead you give a long song & dance proving nothing.

Bottom line- the money to pay for your medical care comes out of a lot of
different pockets, but you do NOT pay most of your own doctor bills. Period.




Enjoy your turkey.

Thanks, hope you enjoyed yours.

DSK