Saddam has WMD by the truck full..

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On 22 Nov 2003 22:57:36 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

The only thing Bush required,

Doesn't matter one bit what he "needed." He lied to the American
public on a level a bit more important than having sex with an intern!
He lied and Americans died over that lie. The man is an anti-American
monster.

RB

Give a concrete example--a Bush quote (with citation) if you can come
up with one.

two wheels


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Well, at least he didn't claim that the Somoli's had WMDs.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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What about the soldiers who died on the Cole,
in Mogadishu, etc. when Clinton was in charge.

Let me hear you call Clinton a murderer.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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C'mon let me hear you call Clinton a murderer.

He's a liar. Bush is a liar AND a murderer.

RB

$5... put up or shut up.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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"two wheels" wrote in message
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Don't you believe what you write about politics? Why write it
otherwise? I always write exactly what I think about Bush and other
political issues. I'm trying to reveal (to sheltered souls like
yourself) the other part of America--the part that you hardly ever hear
from. We're the conservative part that will gladly help reelect George
W. Bush in 2004.

two wheels


And, so correct you are. The liberal media, to some extent,
still hold sway but they are losing their grip. It comes as
quite a shock to people like Donal who are products of reliance
on the left-wing propaganda machine that the world is not
the world they see. His ideas are not the ideas of the
majority. His view is through an educational system and
political agenda that is failing and failing rapidly.

It is more and more evident that pacifists and liberalism
did not work, does not work and will not work. On the
contrary, liberalism is directly responsible for the growth
of terrorism and the disruption, death and destruction caused
by terrorists. Terrorists need liberals because liberals work
to assist terrorists by taking a pacifist stand. Liberals stand
in the way in the war against terrorism.

S.Simon

Big pot, tiny kettle.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Bush lied.


RB

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Depends on how one looks at it.

It sounds to me like a very insightful and humorous
statement. It takes intelligence to make a joke like that.
It's sort of like Yogi Berra's, "Deja Vu all over again."

It takes a closed-minded and rather dull person to not
see how easily they are being used and shown to be
rather dim-witted themselves by somebody they claim
is not too bright. In other words, the joke is on you, Donal
and you're too much of a dim bulb to realize it.



GWB is only pretending to be an idiot???? Now why didn't I figure that out
on my own?


Regards


Donal
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Nutsy,

Saddam's WMD was in the increasing the range of his rockets. That was
how he was going to deliver the WMD.

He had the formular for the Gas & Bio's and the Labs to produce it on
short term.

He elected to work on the delivery system. This was taken from Aziz, his
deputy, in his statement.

This was basically found out by the UN inspecters before the war. Bush
jumped into the invasion without a good reason

OT

GWB is only pretending to be an idiot????:


He's pretending to be a supreme idiot.

RB

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:54:02 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
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Saddam has WMD by the truck full..


The trucks. Okay, now we have a concrete example.

You've convinced me Ganz. I researched it on the internet, and found
the REAL skinny. I'll outline my research IN CAPS about what Bush
did at each point:

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From:
Feb. 5, 2003
Secretary of State Colin Powell
Transcript of Address to U.N. Security Council
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Da...anscript030205.
html

[snip]

One of the most worrisome things that emerges from the thick
intelligence file we have on Iraq's biological weapons is the
existence of mobile production facilities used to make biological
agents.

Let me take you inside that intelligence file and share with you
what we know from eye witness accounts.

We have firsthand descriptions of biological weapons factories on
wheels and on rails.

**NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW THIS, BUT, WHEN GEORGE W. BUSH WENT
UNDERCOVER INTO PRE-WAR IRAQ IN 2002, HE FILED FALSE EYEWITNESS
ACCOUNTS OF WHAT HE SAW IN THE DESERT**

The trucks and train cars are easily moved and are designed to evade
detection by inspectors. In a matter of months, they can produce a
quantity of biological poison equal to the entire amount that Iraq
claimed to have produced in the years prior to the Gulf War.

Although Iraq's mobile production program began in the mid-1990s,
U.N. inspectors at the time only had vague hints of such programs.
Confirmation came later, in the year 2000.

The source was an eye witness, an Iraqi chemical engineer who
supervised one of these facilities. He actually was present during
biological agent production runs. He was also at the site when an
accident occurred in 1998. Twelve technicians died from exposure to
biological agents.

**IN 2000, DURING A BREAK IN CAMPAIGNING, WHEN GOVERNOR GEORGE BUSH
OF TEXAS WAS SENT BY THE CIA TO DEBRIEF IRAQI CHEMICAL ENGINEERS, HE
PURPOSELY MIS-TRANSLATED ARABIC SCIENTIFIC TERMS IN THE
TRANSCRIPTS**

He reported that when UNSCOM was in country and inspecting, the
biological weapons agent production always began on Thursdays at
midnight because Iraq thought UNSCOM would not inspect on the Muslim
Holy Day, Thursday night through Friday. He added that this was
important because the units could not be broken down in the middle
of a production run, which had to be completed by Friday evening
before the inspectors might arrive again.

This defector is currently hiding in another country with the
certain knowledge that Saddam Hussein will kill him if he finds him.
His eyewitness account of these mobile production facilities has
been corroborated by other sources.

** "OTHER SOURCES": ACTUALLY GOVERNOR JEB BUSH OF FLORIDA--A
PART-TIME ARABIC TRANSLATOR AND IRAQI HISTORY EXPERT FOR THE CIA,
WHO USED MAKE-UP TO BECOME "IRAQI" **

A second source, an Iraqi civil engineer in a position to know the
details of the program, confirmed the existence of transportable
facilities moving on trailers.

A third source, also in a position to know, reported in summer 2002
that Iraq had manufactured mobile production systems mounted on road
trailer units and on rail cars.

Finally, a fourth source, an Iraqi major, who defected, confirmed
that Iraq has mobile biological research laboratories, in addition
to the production facilities I mentioned earlier.

**2ND, 3RD, AND 4TH IRAQI DEFECTORS: MORE BUSH FAMILY MEMBERS
PASSING AS IRAQIS USING THEIR PERFECT IRAQI-DIALECT ARABIC, AND SOME
CONVINCING MAKE-UP**

We have diagrammed what our sources reported about these mobile
facilities. Here you see both truck and rail car-mounted mobile
factories. The description our sources gave us of the technical
features required by such facilities are highly detailed and
extremely accurate. As these drawings based on their description
show, we know what the fermenters look like, we know what the tanks,
pumps, compressors and other parts look like. We know how they fit
together. We know how they work. And we know a great deal about the
platforms on which they are mounted.

**MORE FROM BUSH'S UNDERCOVER MISSION TO IRAQ, USING HIS DOCTORATE
IN BIOCHEMISTRY TO FOOL EVEN EXPERTS AT THE CIA**

As shown in this diagram, these factories can be concealed easily,
either by moving ordinary-looking trucks and rail cars along Iraq's
thousands of miles of highway or track, or by parking them in a
garage or warehouse or somewhere in Iraq's extensive system of
underground tunnels and bunkers.

**MORE REPORTS FROM BUSH, USING HIS MASTERS DEGREE IN CIVIL
ENGINEERING TO DRAW CONVINCING FAKE FACTORY PLANS**

We know that Iraq has at lest seven of these mobile biological agent
factories. The truck-mounted ones have at least two or three trucks
each. That means that the mobile production facilities are very few,
perhaps 18 trucks that we know of - there may be more - but perhaps
18 that we know of. Just imagine trying to find 18 trucks among the
thousands and thousands of trucks that travel the roads of Iraq
every single day.

**BUSH PURPOSELY MISREAD THE SATELLITE PHOTOS WHILE USING HIS
PATENTED COMPUTER PHOT0-ANALYSIS METHODS TO ANALYZE THE SATELLITE
DATA FOR BI0-CHEM TRUCKS**

It took the inspectors four years to find out that Iraq was making
biological agents. How long do you think it will take the inspectors
to find even one of these 18 trucks without Iraq coming forward, as
they are supposed to, with the information about these kinds of
capabilities?

Ladies and gentlemen, these are sophisticated facilities. For
example, they can produce anthrax and botulinum toxin. In fact, they
can produce enough dry biological agent in a single month to kill
thousands upon thousands of people. And dry agent of this type is
the most lethal form for human beings.

By 1998, U.N. experts agreed that the Iraqis had perfected drying
techniques for their biological weapons programs. Now, Iraq has
incorporated this drying expertise into these mobile production
facilities.

We know from Iraq's past admissions that it has successfully
weaponized not only anthrax, but also other biological agents,
including botulinum toxin, aflatoxin and ricin.

But Iraq's research efforts did not stop there. Saddam Hussein has
investigated dozens of biological agents causing diseases such as
gas gangrene, plague, typhus (ph), tetanus, cholera, camelpox and
hemorrhagic fever, and he also has the wherewithal to develop
smallpox.

**AGAIN, AS THE LEADING WORLD EXPERT ON WEAPONIZED COMMUNICABLE
DISEASES, GEORGE BUSH FALSIFIED DATA THAT ONLY HE WAS ABLE TO
ANALYZE, AND AS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, THE CIA WAS FORCED TO ACCEPT
HIS ANALYSIS BECAUSE BUSH HAD HYPNOTIZED EVERY MAJOR CIA EMPLOYEE SO
THAT THEY WOULD FORGET THAT THEY WORKED FOR A CLINTON APPOINTED
DIRECTOR, AND AS CAREER EMPLOYEES, WOULD BE AT THE CIA LONG AFTER
ANY ELECTED PRESIDENT CAME AND WENT--THUS THEY WERE "INTIMIDATED" **

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On 22 Nov 2003 22:57:36 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

The only thing Bush required,

Doesn't matter one bit what he "needed." He lied to the American
public on a level a bit more important than having sex with an
intern!
He lied and Americans died over that lie. The man is an
anti-American
monster.

RB

Give a concrete example--a Bush quote (with citation) if you can
come
up with one.

two wheels



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We blame those on the previous administration, just like we give said
previous administration the credit for the clinton economy. Deal?
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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What about the soldiers who died on the Cole,
in Mogadishu, etc. when Clinton was in charge.

Let me hear you call Clinton a murderer.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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C'mon let me hear you call Clinton a murderer.

He's a liar. Bush is a liar AND a murderer.

RB

What amazes me is they couldn't even parade a truck load of swimming pool
chemicals and draino as chemical weapons. They didn't have any thing in that
country, they were destitute.
"Donal" wrote in message
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"two wheels" wrote in message
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The only thing Bush required, was Saddam's ongoing breach of the 1991
peace treaty, and Saddam's related noncompliance with UN resolution
after UN resolution, for twelve years.

If that is true, then why on earth did Bush, Powell and Blair try so hard
to
convince us that Iraq represented a threat to global security?

Was all that stuff about WMD completely unnecessary? Was the linkage
with
Al Q'aeda also unnecessary?

What were the presentations to the UN all about? Why did Blair produce
the
famous dossiers?

Why do some people put political allegiance above personal integrity?


HEY - Why do some people put political allegiance above personal
integrity?



Regards


Donal
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