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Has anyone else besides me noticed how incoherent
the whining, complaining terrorist sympathizers like Bobsprit, Donal and Navigator are lately? The never were very persuasive and never had any ideas of their own as far as alternatives to which the bitch moan and groan about but in the past month or so they don't seem to even be able to even complain with any conviction. When challenged they jump to another liberal talking point which has been discredited badly in the past. When faced with evidence that they have already lost on this issue they change tacks and go another lame liberal talking point which has also been discredited and debunked. They never have an original idea. It's like there is a list somewhere on a liberal website that says, "Here are a dozen talking points which we want you to hammer on." On this list there are such things as 1) Keep repeating President Bush is a liar. If you say it enough times maybe we can get a few more brain-dead people to believe it. 2) Keep saying President Bush is stupid. This is something all liberals can identify with because they are none too bright. No matter how many times the President defeats us stupid people like the majority of liberals will continue to believe the President is stupid. 3) Keep calling the President a murderer. This will get a few votes from Democrats who are incarcerated for felonies but manage to vote anyway along with the dead we have registered. 4) Keep asking "Where are the WMD's." This is something we can continue to ask because no liberal is going to believe there are WMDs even when they are found. 5) Keep delighting in using dead soldiers as political fodder. Never show and respect for their families and friends. This will seduce the very far left and get them to do some more street demonstrations. 6) Keep saying there is no connection between bin Laden and Iraq even when there was a terrorist training camp called Salman Pak with a fuselage of a 707 used for hijack training exercises. 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. Keep saying bin Laden is alive even if there is no real proof that he is. Keep saying Saddam Hussein is still alive even though there is no real proof that he is. 8) Keep saying that President Bush is taking away all our liberties with the Patriot Act. Ignore the fact that Congress passed it with even most liberal Democrats voting for it. 9) Keep saying the economy is the worst in 20 years and it Mr. Bush's fault even when the President inherited the bad economy from his predecessor. Keep talking down the economy even in the face of statistics that show the economy has overcome the Clinton recession and the effects of the events of 9-11 because of the Bush tax cuts. Hammer on a "jobless" recovery even when unemployment is dropping. Never mind the fact that we just had a record third quarter in the GDP. Never mind people are making fantastic returns in the stock market again. Never mind that productivity is way up. Just keep lying and being negative. This will convince many ignorant people that things are really bad and will continue to be. And on and on it goes - all a bunch of lies and negativism. This is the stock and trade of liberals. They have no ideas, no programs of their own to solve any problem. They wish only to create problems and illusions of problems so they can say, "Vote for us - we can fix all these ills," even when the record shows they have never fixed any ills. They wish to keep them around so they can tell people to vote for us so we can fix them. People have wised up. People realize liberalism is a dead end and this is why people started voting out liberals in 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2004 and will do so again in 2004. This is why conservatives control the House, the Senate, the White House and recently the Governorship of California, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Virginia. The majority of the population cannot abide whining, cry babies who have nothing positive to offer. You liberals need to grow up and lose the negative anti- American rhetoric. S.Simon |
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Well some say bin laden is alive beacuse he used to be alive and there
is no proof he's dead. Bit like the US view on WMD's really -if you think about it. Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Has anyone else besides me noticed how incoherent the whining, complaining terrorist sympathizers like Bobsprit, Donal and Navigator are lately? The never were very persuasive and never had any ideas of their own as far as alternatives to which the bitch moan and groan about but in the past month or so they don't seem to even be able to even complain with any conviction. When challenged they jump to another liberal talking point which has been discredited badly in the past. When faced with evidence that they have already lost on this issue they change tacks and go another lame liberal talking point which has also been discredited and debunked. They never have an original idea. It's like there is a list somewhere on a liberal website that says, "Here are a dozen talking points which we want you to hammer on." On this list there are such things as 1) Keep repeating President Bush is a liar. If you say it enough times maybe we can get a few more brain-dead people to believe it. 2) Keep saying President Bush is stupid. This is something all liberals can identify with because they are none too bright. No matter how many times the President defeats us stupid people like the majority of liberals will continue to believe the President is stupid. 3) Keep calling the President a murderer. This will get a few votes from Democrats who are incarcerated for felonies but manage to vote anyway along with the dead we have registered. 4) Keep asking "Where are the WMD's." This is something we can continue to ask because no liberal is going to believe there are WMDs even when they are found. 5) Keep delighting in using dead soldiers as political fodder. Never show and respect for their families and friends. This will seduce the very far left and get them to do some more street demonstrations. 6) Keep saying there is no connection between bin Laden and Iraq even when there was a terrorist training camp called Salman Pak with a fuselage of a 707 used for hijack training exercises. 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. Keep saying bin Laden is alive even if there is no real proof that he is. Keep saying Saddam Hussein is still alive even though there is no real proof that he is. 8) Keep saying that President Bush is taking away all our liberties with the Patriot Act. Ignore the fact that Congress passed it with even most liberal Democrats voting for it. 9) Keep saying the economy is the worst in 20 years and it Mr. Bush's fault even when the President inherited the bad economy from his predecessor. Keep talking down the economy even in the face of statistics that show the economy has overcome the Clinton recession and the effects of the events of 9-11 because of the Bush tax cuts. Hammer on a "jobless" recovery even when unemployment is dropping. Never mind the fact that we just had a record third quarter in the GDP. Never mind people are making fantastic returns in the stock market again. Never mind that productivity is way up. Just keep lying and being negative. This will convince many ignorant people that things are really bad and will continue to be. And on and on it goes - all a bunch of lies and negativism. This is the stock and trade of liberals. They have no ideas, no programs of their own to solve any problem. They wish only to create problems and illusions of problems so they can say, "Vote for us - we can fix all these ills," even when the record shows they have never fixed any ills. They wish to keep them around so they can tell people to vote for us so we can fix them. People have wised up. People realize liberalism is a dead end and this is why people started voting out liberals in 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2004 and will do so again in 2004. This is why conservatives control the House, the Senate, the White House and recently the Governorship of California, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Virginia. The majority of the population cannot abide whining, cry babies who have nothing positive to offer. You liberals need to grow up and lose the negative anti- American rhetoric. S.Simon |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 4) Keep asking "Where are the WMD's." This is something we can continue to ask because no liberal is going to believe there are WMDs even when they are found. That is the funniest thing that I have ever read. 6) Keep saying there is no connection between bin Laden and Iraq even when there was a terrorist training camp called Salman Pak with a fuselage of a 707 used for hijack training exercises. Rubbish. 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Keep saying bin Laden is alive even if there is no real proof that he is. Keep saying Saddam Hussein is still alive even though there is no real proof that he is. Are they dead? If so, why did US forces embark on a major mission in Afghanistan, yesterday? Press reports suggest that a new hunt is underway for bin Laden. There have been no denials from the White House. I wish your soldiers "Good Luck". Do you?? Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF I notice that both France and Germany are in your list. I think that you need to look for another link! Start here www.google,com Better luck next time. Regards Donal - don't argue with me. You will lose! -- |
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Even when presented with proof of their errors
liberals refuse to believe. Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. S.Simon. "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF I notice that both France and Germany are in your list. I think that you need to look for another link! Start here www.google,com Better luck next time. Regards Donal - don't argue with me. You will lose! -- |
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Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the
war against terrorism. Yeah, but not ours. RB |
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You look it up. Count 18 countries in NATO alone and then count countries in other parts of the world that stand with the USA in the war against terrorism. (India, China, Japan, Russia, Pakistan, South Korea, Egypt, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, and on and on and on. You lose. My claiming 20-30 was a conservative figure. The last list I read had at least 35 countries with us in the war against terrorism. S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:27:42 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF Still short of 20, nowhere near 30! Just how many countries are there in the World Cappy? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Yes they are. They disagreed with our open war
with Iraq because they stood to lose big time economically because of their contracts with the govt. of Iraq. They do agree with in the broader war against terrorism. Read the link. It's about time you assholes had your noses rubbed in the evidence. S.Simon "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Yeah, but not ours. RB |
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No! But it could be your drivel was not worth the time it takes to mop it up. Only worthy responses are worthy of response. S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... Notice how Cappy doen't attempt to answer any of my comments. Could it be that I spake the truth? |
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Yes. We've noticed the following....
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... You're right. Conservatives would never call Clinton a liar about a blowjob. 1) Keep repeating President Bush is a liar. If you say it enough times maybe we can get a few more brain-dead people to believe it. I don't think the conservatives *ever* called Clinton stupid. The liberals did though. 2) Keep saying President Bush is stupid. This is something all liberals can identify with because they are none too bright. No matter how many times the President defeats us stupid people like the majority of liberals will continue to believe the President is stupid. Who is "we"? 3) Keep calling the President a murderer. This will get a few votes from Democrats who are incarcerated for felonies but manage to vote anyway along with the dead we have registered. I think that if and when they are found (in Iraq, as opposed to in the US - because we *do* have them), liberals would acknowledge their existence, perhaps even faster than the conservatives have acknowledged their hypocrisy about fidelity. 4) Keep asking "Where are the WMD's." This is something we can continue to ask because no liberal is going to believe there are WMDs even when they are found. I can see this is true because every president in modern times has gone to the funerals of fallen soldiers *except* Bush. 5) Keep delighting in using dead soldiers as political fodder. Never show and respect for their families and friends. This will seduce the very far left and get them to do some more street demonstrations. In any case, there is no connection, which even Bush has said repeatedly. 6) Keep saying there is no connection between bin Laden and Iraq even when there was a terrorist training camp called Salman Pak with a fuselage of a 707 used for hijack training exercises. Yep, well, I guess we're just outnumbered by our partners' soldiers in Iraq. 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. Keep saying bin Laden is alive even if there is no real proof that he is. Keep saying Saddam Hussein is still alive even though there is no real proof that he is. Actually, he's just proposing that they be taken away. And, most of the wimps in Congress (liberal and conservative) go along with it. 8) Keep saying that President Bush is taking away all our liberties with the Patriot Act. Ignore the fact that Congress passed it with even most liberal Democrats voting for it. It's not worse. It's much worse, especially with respect to job loss. Eventually, when companies can't squeeze another ounce of work out of employees, they might start hiring, but first they'll raise prices, assuming we don't enter a devalution situation. Sounds wonderful. 9) Keep saying the economy is the worst in 20 years and it Mr. Bush's fault even when the President inherited the bad economy from his predecessor. Keep talking down the economy even in the face of statistics that show the economy has overcome the Clinton recession and the effects of the events of 9-11 because of the Bush tax cuts. Hammer on a "jobless" recovery even when unemployment is dropping. Never mind the fact that we just had a record third quarter in the GDP. Never mind people are making fantastic returns in the stock market again. Never mind that productivity is way up. Just keep lying and being negative. This will convince many ignorant people that things are really bad and will continue to be. And so it goes... more half truths and lies from Bushy and his moronic followers. And on and on it goes - all a bunch of lies and negativism. This is the stock and trade of liberals. They have no ideas, no programs of their own to solve any problem. They wish only to create problems and illusions of problems so they can say, "Vote for us - we can fix all these ills," even when the record shows they have never fixed any ills. They wish to keep them around so they can tell people to vote for us so we can fix them. My prediction... Bushy and Chumpy are out of here next election. |
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And they all have troups there too!
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... You look it up. Count 18 countries in NATO alone and then count countries in other parts of the world that stand with the USA in the war against terrorism. (India, China, Japan, Russia, Pakistan, South Korea, Egypt, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, and on and on and on. You lose. My claiming 20-30 was a conservative figure. The last list I read had at least 35 countries with us in the war against terrorism. S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:27:42 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF Still short of 20, nowhere near 30! Just how many countries are there in the World Cappy? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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I didn't say that. I said 20-30 countries support us
in the war against terrorism. I did not say they all had sent troops to Iraq. The war against terrorism is much larger than just Iraq and try not to forget it. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... And they all have troups there too! "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... You look it up. Count 18 countries in NATO alone and then count countries in other parts of the world that stand with the USA in the war against terrorism. (India, China, Japan, Russia, Pakistan, South Korea, Egypt, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, and on and on and on. You lose. My claiming 20-30 was a conservative figure. The last list I read had at least 35 countries with us in the war against terrorism. S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:27:42 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF Still short of 20, nowhere near 30! Just how many countries are there in the World Cappy? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Put some money where your mouth is . . .
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... My prediction... Bushy and Chumpy are out of here next election. |
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Capt. kangaroo wrote ... your own freedoms being nibbled away. ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ |
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doing what, Swan Lake?
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ... And they all have troups there too! |
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Uk, Turkey, Italy, Spain, Poland, Austrailia
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Well, I support the manufacture of chocolate. That doesn't
really mean much does it. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I didn't say that. I said 20-30 countries support us in the war against terrorism. I did not say they all had sent troops to Iraq. The war against terrorism is much larger than just Iraq and try not to forget it. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... And they all have troups there too! "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... You look it up. Count 18 countries in NATO alone and then count countries in other parts of the world that stand with the USA in the war against terrorism. (India, China, Japan, Russia, Pakistan, South Korea, Egypt, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, and on and on and on. You lose. My claiming 20-30 was a conservative figure. The last list I read had at least 35 countries with us in the war against terrorism. S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:27:42 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... 7) Keep saying the US is going it alone in the war against terrorism even though 20-30 nations have joined us in the fight. 20-30? Name 6. Here are 18 in NATO alone: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~irclu...ATO_terror.PDF Still short of 20, nowhere near 30! Just how many countries are there in the World Cappy? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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hahahaha...
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... doing what, Swan Lake? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote ... And they all have troups there too! |
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Sure... $5. That's all either of them are worth. I'll pay you via
PayPal if I'm wrong. How about you? "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Put some money where your mouth is . . . "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... My prediction... Bushy and Chumpy are out of here next election. |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Even when presented with proof of their errors liberals refuse to believe. Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. Is Iraq is part of the "War against Terrorism"? If it is, then you cannot claim to have the support of France or Germany. If you wish to claim the support of 20 countries for the "War against Terrorism", then you must admit that the war in Iraq has nothing to with fighting Terrorism. You seem to have painted yourself into a corner again. Regards Donal -- |
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The war against terrorism involves more than overt action. There is a lot of covert stuff going on as well. Countries who may not openly agree with covert action still are supporting with the covert action and other less violent action such as drying up funds terrorists transfer from bank to bank to finance operations. Your logic is faulty. There exists no corner into which I can paint myself in this case. There exists only the facts the link displayed to your chagrin those facts being that ALL the NATO nations are with the USA in the war against terrorism. That the majority of nations don't provide soldiers to fight in Iraq does not belie the fact they are with us in the war against terrorism. And, attempting to change the subject only shows that you cannot argue with these facts. You lose yet again! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Even when presented with proof of their errors liberals refuse to believe. Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. Is Iraq is part of the "War against Terrorism"? If it is, then you cannot claim to have the support of France or Germany. If you wish to claim the support of 20 countries for the "War against Terrorism", then you must admit that the war in Iraq has nothing to with fighting Terrorism. You seem to have painted yourself into a corner again. Regards Donal -- |
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And what do you have against reprisals against
terrorists and governments that support terrorism? S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... Says a lot Cappy. Plenty of countries are doing what they can to work against terrorists. The US with the aid of a couple of others, is the only one that has invaded countries and killed tens of thousands in what can only be seen by the vast majority as reprisal attacks. Is the US now the new Israel? On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:35 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: The war against terrorism involves more than overt action. There is a lot of covert stuff going on as well. Countries who may not openly agree with covert action still are supporting with the covert action and other less violent action such as drying up funds terrorists transfer from bank to bank to finance operations. Your logic is faulty. There exists no corner into which I can paint myself in this case. There exists only the facts the link displayed to your chagrin those facts being that ALL the NATO nations are with the USA in the war against terrorism. That the majority of nations don't provide soldiers to fight in Iraq does not belie the fact they are with us in the war against terrorism. And, attempting to change the subject only shows that you cannot argue with these facts. You lose yet again! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Even when presented with proof of their errors liberals refuse to believe. Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. Is Iraq is part of the "War against Terrorism"? If it is, then you cannot claim to have the support of France or Germany. If you wish to claim the support of 20 countries for the "War against Terrorism", then you must admit that the war in Iraq has nothing to with fighting Terrorism. You seem to have painted yourself into a corner again. Regards Donal -- Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Israel would have to be considered bad, or wrong in some way, for the
way they are dealing with their own, long standing terrorists. Most of the non-terrorist supporting world have no qualm with the way Israel is handling terrorists inside their boarder, and I, for one, am glad they are doing their part to keep the terrorists on the run so they cannot regroup and cause another 9/11 elsewhere. Your attempt at an insult is laughable to the civilized world. (but now we know a little more about what makes you tick) Capetanios Oz wrote: Says a lot Cappy. Plenty of countries are doing what they can to work against terrorists. The US with the aid of a couple of others, is the only one that has invaded countries and killed tens of thousands in what can only be seen by the vast majority as reprisal attacks. Is the US now the new Israel? On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:35 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: The war against terrorism involves more than overt action. There is a lot of covert stuff going on as well. Countries who may not openly agree with covert action still are supporting with the covert action and other less violent action such as drying up funds terrorists transfer from bank to bank to finance operations. Your logic is faulty. There exists no corner into which I can paint myself in this case. There exists only the facts the link displayed to your chagrin those facts being that ALL the NATO nations are with the USA in the war against terrorism. That the majority of nations don't provide soldiers to fight in Iraq does not belie the fact they are with us in the war against terrorism. And, attempting to change the subject only shows that you cannot argue with these facts. You lose yet again! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Even when presented with proof of their errors liberals refuse to believe. Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. Is Iraq is part of the "War against Terrorism"? If it is, then you cannot claim to have the support of France or Germany. If you wish to claim the support of 20 countries for the "War against Terrorism", then you must admit that the war in Iraq has nothing to with fighting Terrorism. You seem to have painted yourself into a corner again. Regards Donal -- Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Yes sir tell that one to Genghis Khan, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Hirohito,
etc. The whole key to the thing is total defeat. One cannot wuss around like you pacifist liberal fools and allow it to go on and on. Any enemy soundly and thoroughly defeated is an enemy no longer. The whole of history proves this fact. S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... Ummm reprisals bring reprisals until soon no-one remembers who started it....if they can now. You didn't get my Israel reference? On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:08:58 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: And what do you have against reprisals against terrorists and governments that support terrorism? S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... Says a lot Cappy. Plenty of countries are doing what they can to work against terrorists. The US with the aid of a couple of others, is the only one that has invaded countries and killed tens of thousands in what can only be seen by the vast majority as reprisal attacks. Is the US now the new Israel? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Donal wrote:
"Simple Simon" wrote Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. Is Iraq is part of the "War against Terrorism"? If it is, then you cannot claim to have the support of France or Germany. If you wish to claim the support of 20 countries for the "War against Terrorism", then you must admit that the war in Iraq has nothing to with fighting Terrorism. It's just a matter of who's ox is getting gored. Saddam was indisputably supporting Palistinian suicide bombers who attacked Israel. If you see these bombers as terrorists then you must admit that Saddam was supporting terrorism. If OTOH you see them as desperate patriots trying to save their homeland from European invaders bent on genocide then Saddam was not supporting terrorism, we are. It's interesting that most of the European invaders were Jews driven out of France and Germany after WW2. |
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"Vito" wrote in message ...
Donal wrote: It's interesting that most of the European invaders were Jews driven out of France and Germany after WW2. Wrong. You're forgetting that over 800,000 Jews were driven out of Arab lands in the late 40's, early 50's. In fact, the number of Jews forcibly evicted (and generally not allowed to take any significant property or money) from Arab lands exceeded the number of Palestinian refugees, almost all of which left voluntarily. Iran and Iraq, for instance, had major Jewish communities, going back 2500 years. At one time Baghdad was 20% Jewish. Now, only a handful of Jews live in either country. Although some of the Jews remained until the 70's,in that period essentially all were evicted and all property confiscated. The actual numbers are hard to sort out, because Russia is included as "Europe." Even so, roughly half if the immigration in the 5 years after independence was from Africa & Asia. And a large portion of the European immigrants were from Romania, and other Eastern countries, not from France and Germany. |
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Nope. And I am not a terrorist sympathizer, either Capetanios Oz wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:12:33 GMT, Grouch wrote: Israel would have to be considered bad, or wrong in some way, for the way they are dealing with their own, long standing terrorists. Most of the non-terrorist supporting world have no qualm with the way Israel is handling terrorists inside their boarder, and I, for one, am glad they are doing their part to keep the terrorists on the run so they cannot regroup and cause another 9/11 elsewhere. So now it's Israeli terrorists responsible for 911? Hope you're not a Bush advisor. In a way, yes. Although, I'm not sure they are considered citizens, but the terrorists in Israel are supported by the same terrorist leaders who supported the terorists who brought down the WTC in Booby's backyard. I think I am more of a do'er than what Bush is seeking in his team. Your attempt at an insult is laughable to the civilized world. (but now we know a little more about what makes you tick) You Jewish? Nope, just not a terrorist sympathizer. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Vito" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: It's interesting that most of the European invaders were Jews driven out of France and Germany after WW2. Wrong. You're forgetting that over 800,000 Jews were driven out of Arab lands in the late 40's, early 50's. In fact, the number of Jews forcibly evicted (and generally not allowed to take any significant property or money) from Arab lands exceeded the number of Palestinian refugees, almost all of which left voluntarily. Some were driven out of Spain several centuries ago ( in the 1200's, IIRC). They still speak an antiquated form of Spanish. Regards Donal -- |
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Nuke em of course. That's the American way!
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... And what do you have against reprisals against terrorists and governments that support terrorism? S.Simon Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... Says a lot Cappy. Plenty of countries are doing what they can to work against terrorists. The US with the aid of a couple of others, is the only one that has invaded countries and killed tens of thousands in what can only be seen by the vast majority as reprisal attacks. Is the US now the new Israel? On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:35 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: The war against terrorism involves more than overt action. There is a lot of covert stuff going on as well. Countries who may not openly agree with covert action still are supporting with the covert action and other less violent action such as drying up funds terrorists transfer from bank to bank to finance operations. Your logic is faulty. There exists no corner into which I can paint myself in this case. There exists only the facts the link displayed to your chagrin those facts being that ALL the NATO nations are with the USA in the war against terrorism. That the majority of nations don't provide soldiers to fight in Iraq does not belie the fact they are with us in the war against terrorism. And, attempting to change the subject only shows that you cannot argue with these facts. You lose yet again! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Even when presented with proof of their errors liberals refuse to believe. Yes, both France and Germany are partners in the war against terrorism. Believe it. Is Iraq is part of the "War against Terrorism"? If it is, then you cannot claim to have the support of France or Germany. If you wish to claim the support of 20 countries for the "War against Terrorism", then you must admit that the war in Iraq has nothing to with fighting Terrorism. You seem to have painted yourself into a corner again. Regards Donal -- Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Jeff Morris wrote:
"Vito" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: It's interesting that most of the European invaders were Jews driven out of France and Germany after WW2. Wrong. You're forgetting that over 800,000 Jews were driven out of Arab lands in the late 40's, early 50's. ... You're right, I didn't know that and still tend to doubt the numbers, but that doesn't contribute to the problems in the middle east today. There were Jews in Palistine before WW2 and everybody more or less got along - nothing like what was to come after WW2. NAZIs rounded up Europes Jews. Their homes and shops were sold to locals and their money hidden in Swiss banks. When the survivors returned the locals didn't give those shops and homes back any quicker that the Swiss returned the money leaving these Europeans with no choice but to invade Palestine and establish "The Jewish State". Now they have to kill off the rest of the Palestinians to make room for the Jews being kicked out of Arab countries you mentioned. Sic semper something. |
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Vito wrote: You're right, I didn't know that and still tend to doubt the numbers, but that doesn't contribute to the problems in the middle east today. There were Jews in Palistine before WW2 and everybody more or less got along - nothing like what was to come after WW2. Not really. The Arabs under Turkish rule had pogroms & ghettoes for the Jews. Worse than most in Europe, but of course they considered it 'getting along' because the Jews could not fight back. .... NAZIs rounded up Europes Jews. Their homes and shops were sold to locals and their money hidden in Swiss banks. When the survivors returned the locals didn't give those shops and homes back any quicker that the Swiss returned the money leaving these Europeans with no choice but to invade Palestine and establish "The Jewish State". Now that is the biggest load of malarkey you have spouted yet. Where do you get this 'history' you come up with? DSK |
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Oz,
You seem to ignore History rather well. The day after the UN created Israel they were invaded by their newly UN created Neighbors. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, vowing to drive every Jew into the Sea. They didn't do it. They regrouped and tried it again and again each time being defeated and losing territory, which the Israelis returned. The Arabs then resorted to Terrorist Tactic and whining to the body of the UN's Arab Block about Israel's fighting back. They would deliver piles of rubble by trucks for the kids to throw at the Jewish army Now that the Jews are strong enough to fight back against the Suicide Bombings you can't seem to remember why they had to become so strong You have the nerve to ask is the poster was Jewish. Shame on you!! How about if I ask YOU if you are a Jew Hater? It really has nothing to do with right or wrong does it? Can't drink to that. Your post left a very bad taste in my mouth! I hope every damn Terrorist is killed or driven under ground never to be heard from again. Since, it seems every Terrorist is Islamic in origin and they seem to have no interest in correcting the situation. If that is the way they are going to fight their "Jahad" then let's Kill the *******s OT |
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I don't know why you're surprised. It's been patently obvious for quite some time that Oz is a racist bigot and a hypocrite. S.Simon "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Oz, You seem to ignore History rather well. The day after the UN created Israel they were invaded by their newly UN created Neighbors. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, vowing to drive every Jew into the Sea. They didn't do it. They regrouped and tried it again and again each time being defeated and losing territory, which the Israelis returned. The Arabs then resorted to Terrorist Tactic and whining to the body of the UN's Arab Block about Israel's fighting back. They would deliver piles of rubble by trucks for the kids to throw at the Jewish army Now that the Jews are strong enough to fight back against the Suicide Bombings you can't seem to remember why they had to become so strong You have the nerve to ask is the poster was Jewish. Shame on you!! How about if I ask YOU if you are a Jew Hater? It really has nothing to do with right or wrong does it? Can't drink to that. Your post left a very bad taste in my mouth! I hope every damn Terrorist is killed or driven under ground never to be heard from again. Since, it seems every Terrorist is Islamic in origin and they seem to have no interest in correcting the situation. If that is the way they are going to fight their "Jahad" then let's Kill the *******s OT |
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some reading, a fair and balanced view ;-}:
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mf2.html#d http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Imm...Continent.html The number often given for the number of Jewish refugees from Muslim countries between 1948 and 1972 is 820,000, with 586,000 settling in Israel. Israel has no desire or need to "kill off the Palestinians." They have often offered a reasonable peace. There will never be a peace, however, as long as there is a sizable number of Arabs that consider a Jewish state in their midst to be an insult to their religion. "Vito" wrote in message ... Jeff Morris wrote: "Vito" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: It's interesting that most of the European invaders were Jews driven out of France and Germany after WW2. Wrong. You're forgetting that over 800,000 Jews were driven out of Arab lands in the late 40's, early 50's. ... You're right, I didn't know that and still tend to doubt the numbers, but that doesn't contribute to the problems in the middle east today. There were Jews in Palistine before WW2 and everybody more or less got along - nothing like what was to come after WW2. NAZIs rounded up Europes Jews. Their homes and shops were sold to locals and their money hidden in Swiss banks. When the survivors returned the locals didn't give those shops and homes back any quicker that the Swiss returned the money leaving these Europeans with no choice but to invade Palestine and establish "The Jewish State". Now they have to kill off the rest of the Palestinians to make room for the Jews being kicked out of Arab countries you mentioned. Sic semper something. |
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Oz, You seem to ignore History rather well. The day after the UN created Israel they were invaded by their newly UN created Neighbors. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, vowing to drive every Jew into the Sea. They didn't do it. They regrouped and tried it again and again each time being defeated and losing territory, which the Israelis returned. The Arabs then resorted to Terrorist Tactic and whining to the body of the UN's Arab Block about Israel's fighting back. They would deliver piles of rubble by trucks for the kids to throw at the Jewish army Now that the Jews are strong enough to fight back against the Suicide Bombings you can't seem to remember why they had to become so strong You have the nerve to ask is the poster was Jewish. Shame on you!! How about if I ask YOU if you are a Jew Hater? It really has nothing to do with right or wrong does it? Can't drink to that. Your post left a very bad taste in my mouth! I hope every damn Terrorist is killed or driven under ground never to be heard from again. Since, it seems every Terrorist is Islamic in origin and they seem to have no interest in correcting the situation. If that is the way they are going to fight their "Jahad" then let's Kill the *******s OT, I agree with nearly everything that you have written above. Regards Donal -- |
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More ole Tom lies.
-- Oz1...twin of the 3 twins "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Oz, You seem to ignore History rather well. The day after the UN created Israel they were invaded by their newly UN created Neighbors. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, vowing to drive every Jew into the Sea. They didn't do it. They regrouped and tried it again and again each time being defeated and losing territory, which the Israelis returned. The Arabs then resorted to Terrorist Tactic and whining to the body of the UN's Arab Block about Israel's fighting back. They would deliver piles of rubble by trucks for the kids to throw at the Jewish army Now that the Jews are strong enough to fight back against the Suicide Bombings you can't seem to remember why they had to become so strong You have the nerve to ask is the poster was Jewish. Shame on you!! How about if I ask YOU if you are a Jew Hater? It really has nothing to do with right or wrong does it? Can't drink to that. Your post left a very bad taste in my mouth! I hope every damn Terrorist is killed or driven under ground never to be heard from again. Since, it seems every Terrorist is Islamic in origin and they seem to have no interest in correcting the situation. If that is the way they are going to fight their "Jahad" then let's Kill the *******s OT |
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More Oz lies.
Old Thom knows of what he speaks. Oz just makes it up as he goes along. "Capetanios Oz Twin" wrote in message . .. More ole Tom lies. -- Oz1...twin of the 3 twins "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Oz, You seem to ignore History rather well. The day after the UN created Israel they were invaded by their newly UN created Neighbors. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Palestine, vowing to drive every Jew into the Sea. They didn't do it. They regrouped and tried it again and again each time being defeated and losing territory, which the Israelis returned. The Arabs then resorted to Terrorist Tactic and whining to the body of the UN's Arab Block about Israel's fighting back. They would deliver piles of rubble by trucks for the kids to throw at the Jewish army Now that the Jews are strong enough to fight back against the Suicide Bombings you can't seem to remember why they had to become so strong You have the nerve to ask is the poster was Jewish. Shame on you!! How about if I ask YOU if you are a Jew Hater? It really has nothing to do with right or wrong does it? Can't drink to that. Your post left a very bad taste in my mouth! I hope every damn Terrorist is killed or driven under ground never to be heard from again. Since, it seems every Terrorist is Islamic in origin and they seem to have no interest in correcting the situation. If that is the way they are going to fight their "Jahad" then let's Kill the *******s OT |
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Oz,
You seem to ignore History rather well. Oz is an anti-Semite. You can get away with that in Aussie.. |
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