Dear Thom,

FYI:
Tonnage: I. Charge, duty, or payment of so much per tun or ton.

1. Eng. Hist. A tax or duty formerly levied upon wine imported in
tuns or casks, at the rate of so much for every tun. Commonly in
association with poundage: see POUNDAGE n.1 1.
By some historical writers and in some dictionaries written tunnage
for distinction's sake, and to emphasize the connexion with TUN n.; but
tonnage is the more usual form.
Tonnage and poundage were first levied in the 14th c., and were
granted for life to several sovereigns, beginning with Edward IV. They
were abolished by 27 Geo. III c. 13, in 1787.


Cheers MC

Thom Stewart wrote:
Simple,

Boy, are you full of ****! Tonnage is taken from "TON" get lost with
your Tun BS

Hiscock is a good authority. By your own quote; "Depth is an internal
measurement taken from the deck ( that Part of the boat connected to the
Gunnel, that you walk on going around the cabin to get to your stupid
hanked on sails) at mid ship to the top of the keel!!! Probably around
5 ft on your craft. What the Hell is so hard to understand about that?

Displacement; minus engine, shaft, mountings, bulkheads and etc that
water cannot displace, leaves the rest of the volume to be calculated
and converted to the weight of WATER!! Go drink your damn wine, it has
nothing to do with displacement

Now, if you want to further demonstrate you ignorance, refute this
statement. That will be the last word. I'll not get into a yes it is, no
it isn't with you.

So. UP YOURS !!! AND "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!!"

Ole Thom

After someone posts his addy on the net (SUZANNE L MILLER ,8450 AUSTIN ST
APT 4K ,KEW GARDENS, NY 11415) he then announces that no one will be home
tonight?

Smarter than you. I only said "I" wouldn't be home!

RB

It seems to me I remember you posting that you had a House. Are you
saying now that your house is an Apartment building in KEW GARDENS?

Thom, I own a house in Brooklyn, but I rent it out. I've mentioned this before.
Good troll.

RB

Thanks Bill, now I know where to send that 'special package'.

Not even your wife thinks you have a special package.

RB

Rhetorical questions are redundant.

--
Oz1...twin of the 3 twins
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Do you mean the section where it says:

"(Complete only if the volume of the principal deckhouse, cabin or similar
structure above
the main deck exceeds the hull volume)"

And then they show a barge with a large deckhouse? Are you claiming your
tiny coachroof
(or RB's) exceeds the volume of the main hull? Are you demented?


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


I'm not making it up. It's on the form on the link you posted.

On form DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION
U.S. COAST GUARD
CG-5397 (Rev 12-00)

Look on the right side towards the top. It shows what looks
like a line drawing of a house boat with the "D" measured
on the structure which sits atop the hull.

heres your link again.
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/msc/t3/cg5397/cg5397.form.htm

S.Simon


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Sorry Neal, the proper definition that I keep repeating ("excluding
.... coach") comes
from
that form. You have to get the download version because it isn't on
the interactive
version.

And besides, none of the pictures include a deck structure, they all
measure depth
down
from the deck at the gunwale. You're just making this stuff up,
aren't you?



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


Now, that definition of depth is more correct.

Look at the illustration of the little boat.

It ignores the hull plating or skin and includes
the house on deck (structure)- just like I said it should.

There is a different measurement for ships and
yachts and this link looks to be for yachts.

Bobsprit's depth is clearly more than five feet.

Just like I said . . .

S.Simon

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Then why not use the real simplified link:

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/msc/t3/cg5397/cg5397.form.htm

Its clear that the link you provide is far beyond Neal's
capabilities.


wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:17:08 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

A fair explanation, but your first several posts on the topic
indicated you did
not
understand the measurement. It was only after I posted the
link to the
measurement
that
you started to get it close to right.

Modern measurement of tonnage does not generally measure to the
coachroof, it
only
goes
up
to the deck. Thus, a vessel with full headroom might only be
listed at 5 feet.
My
old
Nonsuch, with generous headroom ( 6.5 feet ?) is listed as
having a 5.6 foot
Depth.


Here is all that matters when measuring for purpose of
documentation, including
diagrams for the terminally stupid, who don't have a good grasp
of English.

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/msc/T3/SIMP_formula_infosht.pdf

What anybody "thinks" doesn't count. This is what the ruling
authority says you
MUST do to comply with the law.

BB

Not even your wife thinks you have a special package.

RB

Yeah, but Suzanne will be astounded!


Yeah...after me everything seems underhung!

Hoooh ahhhhh!

RB

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is this the right address?

SUZANNE L MILLER
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415

will there be hor de hors?

Scotty

wrote

Party at Bob's house tonight. If you don't know how to get there, you
can get a map and driving directions at MapQuest.com.

BB