Popular song in Bagdad.
 

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
Now they say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
Well after 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Now I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fightin' for

Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
And all the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?


Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?




Joe

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Bush has. Bin laden is still free.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Binny's been hanging out at Disney World and playing golf every day.
Must be nice to be free like him an Sadam, eh?

Bobsprit wrote:
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Bush has. Bin laden is still free.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Strong stuff, Joe.
I guess that this explains why you went to war on Iraq...
...... you were expressing your frustration because you couldn't bin Laden??

BTW - Bush has admitted that there is no proof to link Iraq to bin Laden.


Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away

Do you think that some Iraqis feel the same way?

The American reaction to seeing 3000 citizens killed was to go and have
revenge. Don't you realise that the Iraqi reaction to the deaths of
thousands of their civilians will be the same?


Regards


Donal
--

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

"Donal" wrote in message ...

The American reaction to seeing 3000 citizens killed was to go and have
revenge. Don't you realise that the Iraqi reaction to the deaths of
thousands of their civilians will be the same?



What a grossly retarded statement. It is proven to be
so by the fact that Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of
thousands Iraqi citizens while the remaining citizens
cowered in fear. What pacifists don't understand
is the only way to defeat terrorists is to kill terrorists
and make them cower in fear.

Simply standing around whining complaining and being
negative is no protection at all. You actually act like
you are so afraid of terrorists and don't want them
to notice you so you think keeping a low profile is
the way to go. Hahahhahahahahhahahahhahah! Tell
that to the Kingdom in Saudi Arabia. They are in
bed with terrorists and still they get attacked.

Grow up why don't you.

S.Simon

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

They are in
bed with terrorists and still they get attacked.

What an amazingly dumb and uninformed response.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Fact: The Royal family paid terrorists to not do their
terrorism in Saudi Arabia.

Fact: The Royal family looked the other way and
allowed terrorists to live and train in the Kingdom
as long as they pursued their terrorists activities
elsewhere.

Fact: All but two of the bunch that flew the planes
on 9-11 were Saudis.

Now, that the terrorist have figured out they want
rid of the Royal Family and wish to set up an Islamic
state there they have started working openly to topple
the Royal government.

Get used to the fact that the only sensible way to deal
with terrorists is to kill them and dismantle their networks.
The war against terrorism will go on and on. If people
like you had their way the war would be conducted mostly
here on our own soil. You and your ilk, if you weren't so
stupid, would be almost as dangerous as the terrorists
themselves.

S.Simon

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
They are in
bed with terrorists and still they get attacked.

What an amazingly dumb and uninformed response.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Now, that the terrorist have figured out they want
rid of the Royal Family and wish to set up an Islamic
state there they have started working openly to topple
the Royal government.

In other words, they aren't "in bed" with them anymore. The US was once "in
bed" with Saddam.
Really, Neal. You're so stupid it's scary. Lucky for us you're a 100% waste of
space with no effect on anyone beyond generating laughs.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

The point which you are too stupid to understand
is being in bed with terrorists at any time is no
insurance against them turning against you.

This is what the Royal family just learned.

This is what you stupid liberals can't seem
to grasp. When you side with the terrorists
in the war against terrorists you do nothing
to protect yourself against them. They can
and will eventually turn on you. If you
aren't supporting the war against them
you aid and abet them. And you call
yourself a patriot. You are delusional

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Now, that the terrorist have figured out they want
rid of the Royal Family and wish to set up an Islamic
state there they have started working openly to topple
the Royal government.

In other words, they aren't "in bed" with them anymore. The US was once "in
bed" with Saddam.
Really, Neal. You're so stupid it's scary. Lucky for us you're a 100% waste of
space with no effect on anyone beyond generating laughs.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


wrote in message ...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:04:33 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote:

What pacifists don't understand
is the only way to defeat terrorists is to kill terrorists
and make them cower in fear.


Actually, that's exactly 100% wrong. You can't possible kill all the terrorists.
It's like trying to kill the Hydra. Terrorists and dictators take hold when the
people around them are hungry, ignorant, and poor. If you want to reduce
terrorism, the cheapest and most effective thing you can do is make the peasants
comfortable. Help them farm better. Build them homes and schools and hospitals.
Show them how to make money at something. You can never eliminate terrorists,
but you can eliminate the root causes behind the creation of new terrorists, by
eliminating the conditions under which they thrive.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

It's this DEMENTIA that will end even more American lives, but neal could care
less.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Did we not catch the two snipers who terrorized
Washington DC? Isn't the Unabomber behind bars.
Does Timothy McVeigh still walk the planet. Didn't
they just catch the Green River serial killer?
Charles Manson? Son of Sam? I could go on
but I think my point is made.

All it takes to defeat and eliminated terrorists is a
concerted effort to do so. People like you who don't
think it's possible need to get out of the way if you
aren't up to helping with the task. The task can be
done without you but the task is hindered when too
many of you pacifists get in the way.

This is all fact. Dementia only comes into play
when people think we have to live with terrorists
butchering us up. Don't allow your cowardice
and apathy to hinder progress for the rest of
humanity.

S.Simon


wrote in message ...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:24 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


You are truly demented.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Did we not catch the two snipers who terrorized
Washington DC? Isn't the Unabomber behind bars.
Does Timothy McVeigh still walk the planet. Didn't
they just catch the Green River serial killer?
Charles Manson? Son of Sam? I could go on
but I think my point is made.

Yes, you made your point. These people did terrible damage again and again and
in our own midst and still it took years to stop them. But the US will win the
"war" on terrorism with 100'00 troops who are basically kids?
In way, Neal, you're right. They could be eradicated, but not the way Bush is
doing it.
You're just too dumb to understand. Fanatics don't stop. Not ever. They are
part of our world and will always return. It will take more than social
evolution to see them gone.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Don't allow your cowardice
and apathy to hinder progress for the rest of
humanity.

Just clue us in when you have either "progress" or a viable "plan."

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

That's what we said about the Nazis and the Communists.
You can't get rid of them. You can only make the soil less
fertile for them.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:04:33 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

What pacifists don't understand
is the only way to defeat terrorists is to kill terrorists
and make them cower in fear.


Actually, that's exactly 100% wrong. You can't possible kill all the
terrorists.
It's like trying to kill the Hydra. Terrorists and dictators take hold
when the
people around them are hungry, ignorant, and poor. If you want to reduce
terrorism, the cheapest and most effective thing you can do is make the
peasants
comfortable. Help them farm better. Build them homes and schools and
hospitals.
Show them how to make money at something. You can never eliminate
terrorists,
but you can eliminate the root causes behind the creation of new
terrorists, by
eliminating the conditions under which they thrive.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

All the people you mention are pikers compared to
the many terrorist orgs in existence.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Did we not catch the two snipers who terrorized
Washington DC? Isn't the Unabomber behind bars.
Does Timothy McVeigh still walk the planet. Didn't
they just catch the Green River serial killer?
Charles Manson? Son of Sam? I could go on
but I think my point is made.

All it takes to defeat and eliminated terrorists is a
concerted effort to do so. People like you who don't
think it's possible need to get out of the way if you
aren't up to helping with the task. The task can be
done without you but the task is hindered when too
many of you pacifists get in the way.

This is all fact. Dementia only comes into play
when people think we have to live with terrorists
butchering us up. Don't allow your cowardice
and apathy to hinder progress for the rest of
humanity.

S.Simon


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:24 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


You are truly demented.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

That's what we said about the Nazis and the Communists.
You can't get rid of them. You can only make the soil less

Imagine that Neal the Fool thinks terrorists are anything like Nazis? Well in
some way the Nazi's were worse, especially in their unity. But terrorists have
an engine of hatred powered by religiously fanatical brainwashing the makes
them insane.
You don't understand the nature of the monster involved, nor does bush.

RB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

And all the terrorists combined are pikers compared
to a world committed to eliminating them. They can
only survive if unconcerned or fearful people allow
them to survive.

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
All the people you mention are pikers compared to
the many terrorist orgs in existence.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Did we not catch the two snipers who terrorized
Washington DC? Isn't the Unabomber behind bars.
Does Timothy McVeigh still walk the planet. Didn't
they just catch the Green River serial killer?
Charles Manson? Son of Sam? I could go on
but I think my point is made.

All it takes to defeat and eliminated terrorists is a
concerted effort to do so. People like you who don't
think it's possible need to get out of the way if you
aren't up to helping with the task. The task can be
done without you but the task is hindered when too
many of you pacifists get in the way.

This is all fact. Dementia only comes into play
when people think we have to live with terrorists
butchering us up. Don't allow your cowardice
and apathy to hinder progress for the rest of
humanity.

S.Simon


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:24 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


You are truly demented.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

The American reaction to seeing 3000 citizens killed was to go and have
revenge. Don't you realise that the Iraqi reaction to the deaths of
thousands of their civilians will be the same?



What a grossly retarded statement. It is proven to be
so by the fact that Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of
thousands Iraqi citizens while the remaining citizens
cowered in fear.

Rubbish! Try to keep a grip on reality when disagreeing with me.


What pacifists don't understand
is the only way to defeat terrorists is to kill terrorists
and make them cower in fear.

Are you suggesting that every tyrant is a terrorist that needs to be dealt
with by a foreign state?



Simply standing around whining complaining and being
negative is no protection at all.

Protection is not needed unless there is a threat.


You actually act like
you are so afraid of terrorists

Try to keep up. There is a difference berween "terrorists" and "tyrants".

and don't want them
to notice you so you think keeping a low profile is
the way to go. Hahahhahahahahhahahahhahah! Tell
that to the Kingdom in Saudi Arabia. They are in
bed with terrorists and still they get attacked.

True. They are very close to the US.

Regards


Donal
--

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

If only it were so simple. Let's say we wish to do that. Do we line up
members of _your_ government and shoot them? How about bombing Israel?
Africa? Ireland? France? ... Isn't the key to be committed not to
fighting terrorism but removing the cause of the terrorist?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

And all the terrorists combined are pikers compared
to a world committed to eliminating them. They can
only survive if unconcerned or fearful people allow
them to survive.

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...

All the people you mention are pikers compared to
the many terrorist orgs in existence.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Did we not catch the two snipers who terrorized
Washington DC? Isn't the Unabomber behind bars.
Does Timothy McVeigh still walk the planet. Didn't
they just catch the Green River serial killer?
Charles Manson? Son of Sam? I could go on
but I think my point is made.

All it takes to defeat and eliminated terrorists is a
concerted effort to do so. People like you who don't
think it's possible need to get out of the way if you
aren't up to helping with the task. The task can be
done without you but the task is hindered when too
many of you pacifists get in the way.

This is all fact. Dementia only comes into play
when people think we have to live with terrorists
butchering us up. Don't allow your cowardice
and apathy to hinder progress for the rest of
humanity.

S.Simon


wrote in message

. ..

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:24 -0500, "Simple Simon"

wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


You are truly demented.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Strong stuff, Joe.
I guess that this explains why you went to war on Iraq...
..... you were expressing your frustration because you couldn't bin Laden??

What makes you think we did not get him? Have proff he's alive?

BTW - Bush has admitted that there is no proof to link Iraq to bin Laden.


Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away

Do you think that some Iraqis feel the same way?

The American reaction to seeing 3000 citizens killed was to go and have
revenge. Don't you realise that the Iraqi reaction to the deaths of
thousands of their civilians will be the same?


No, most those that are killed supported Saddam, and the average iraqi
citizen is much better off without them around. Ask one eh. We have a
few just across from the marina that run a little grocery store gas
station. They are very happy and supportive of US efforts.



Regards


Donal
--

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

The average Iraqi is not supportive of the US 'efforts' (that'll be
protection of 'her' oil supplies by the way) now.

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:
"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Joe" wrote in message
.com...

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Strong stuff, Joe.
I guess that this explains why you went to war on Iraq...
..... you were expressing your frustration because you couldn't bin Laden??


What makes you think we did not get him? Have proff he's alive?


BTW - Bush has admitted that there is no proof to link Iraq to bin Laden.


Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away

Do you think that some Iraqis feel the same way?

The American reaction to seeing 3000 citizens killed was to go and have
revenge. Don't you realise that the Iraqi reaction to the deaths of
thousands of their civilians will be the same?



No, most those that are killed supported Saddam, and the average iraqi
citizen is much better off without them around. Ask one eh. We have a
few just across from the marina that run a little grocery store gas
station. They are very happy and supportive of US efforts.



Regards


Donal
--

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

Amazingly, you're right. They are pikers compared to the number
of people who've been killed by "civilized" nations.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
And all the terrorists combined are pikers compared
to a world committed to eliminating them. They can
only survive if unconcerned or fearful people allow
them to survive.

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
All the people you mention are pikers compared to
the many terrorist orgs in existence.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Did we not catch the two snipers who terrorized
Washington DC? Isn't the Unabomber behind bars.
Does Timothy McVeigh still walk the planet. Didn't
they just catch the Green River serial killer?
Charles Manson? Son of Sam? I could go on
but I think my point is made.

All it takes to defeat and eliminated terrorists is a
concerted effort to do so. People like you who don't
think it's possible need to get out of the way if you
aren't up to helping with the task. The task can be
done without you but the task is hindered when too
many of you pacifists get in the way.

This is all fact. Dementia only comes into play
when people think we have to live with terrorists
butchering us up. Don't allow your cowardice
and apathy to hinder progress for the rest of
humanity.

S.Simon


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:33:24 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

All it takes is for civilized people to get together
and do it. It's people like you who do nothing but
complain and naysay who are impeding progress.
Even worse are people like Bobsprit who actively
support terrorists.

Why not just get the **** out of the way if
you aren't going to be a positive influence?

S.Simon


You are truly demented.

BB

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

In article , Simple Simon
wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

I agree with you completely! After all, that approach has been proven
to work in action. Just look at how the USA has managed to win the War
on Drugs as a fine example of what you can achieve when you try.

Peter Wiley

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

That's the only way you can win a war like this... on drugs.

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Simple Simon
wrote:

One can most definitely get rid of all terrorists.

There is nothing so special about these
murdering criminals. They can be identified,
caught, rounded up, tossed in jail to rot or
executed.

I agree with you completely! After all, that approach has been proven
to work in action. Just look at how the USA has managed to win the War
on Drugs as a fine example of what you can achieve when you try.

Peter Wiley

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

"Joe" wrote in message

| No, most those that are killed supported Saddam, and the average iraqi
| citizen is much better off without them around. Ask one eh. We have a
| few just across from the marina that run a little grocery store gas
| station. They are very happy and supportive of US efforts.

They better be... after seeing their friends rounded up for interogation by
the "Men in Black"!!

CM

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message

| No, most those that are killed supported Saddam, and the average iraqi
| citizen is much better off without them around. Ask one eh. We have a
| few just across from the marina that run a little grocery store gas
| station. They are very happy and supportive of US efforts.

They better be... after seeing their friends rounded up for interogation by
the "Men in Black"!!

CM



We reserve or MIB's for UFO work only.

BTW Texas Osprey are much smarter than your Canaduh Osprey.

You said your fly with fish tails first, ours always fly with the
heads forward, much more streamlined, and it shows ours know how to
hunt better as well.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Popular song in Bagdad.
 

You dork... ... I never claimed any such thing about Ospreys!

But I bet your Iraqi shopkeepers were being watched and interogated!

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
m...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| "Joe" wrote in message
|
| | No, most those that are killed supported Saddam, and the average iraqi
| | citizen is much better off without them around. Ask one eh. We have a
| | few just across from the marina that run a little grocery store gas
| | station. They are very happy and supportive of US efforts.
|
| They better be... after seeing their friends rounded up for interogation
by
| the "Men in Black"!!
|
| CM
|
|
|
| We reserve or MIB's for UFO work only.
|
| BTW Texas Osprey are much smarter than your Canaduh Osprey.
|
| You said your fly with fish tails first, ours always fly with the
| heads forward, much more streamlined, and it shows ours know how to
| hunt better as well.
|
| Joe
| MSV RedCloud