"Schoonertrash" wrote in message ...
Huh? Sounds a bit like using the "I was listening to Limbaugh" excuse
when stopped for speeding. Good story til you try to use it for real. Yes,
you will get away with it. Until you get stopped. The mere act of having
sails raised is prima facie evidence that the vessel was sailing.

What about my Motor Sailing vessel? What if the sail are not pushing?




Plenty of
probable cause to open an investigation.First thing that will happen is the
USCG OIC will ask you for your license. Then they keep it pending outcome
of their investigation.

SOP

You won't need it anymore. They have no sense of
humour with smartasses and sea lawyer wannabes that think they are stupid.


True



In the area of not making a living with a sixpack license. For sure if you
are limited to no endorsements and near coastal and think you will rely on
the sailing trade.




100 ton licenses are practical WITH a towing
endorsement,

100 tons are pratical without any endorsements. I ran a many 100 ton
crew boats without any other endorsements. And I knew many many others
doing the same. We all knew how to run on pure radar at high speeds
yet felt no desire or need to get a radar endorsement. Compaines did
not pay you any more for endorsements unless you where delivering
vessels via deep water routes.




with a radar endorsement and with any other endorsement you can
tag on. and only on powered commercial vessels. Beyond that it takes
STCW-95 qualifications for anything in excess of 150 miles offshore.

We call it a any oceans endorsement



What it is good for is measuring some ability (book learning not practical)
and indicates you MAY be able to actually perform. But unlike a British
license it doesn't mean you have any practical ability beyond taking written
tests.

Yes that is so true! It's a licence to learn.




Combine it with an AB Card and a test of practical ability is
included. Yes, AB's take the exact same ColRegs test as so the 100
tonners.

Big deal, question in the CFR is mostly open book.




On our bridge team last trip we had seven AB's including the
Bo's'n. One 1600 ton Captain/unlimited tonnage Mate license, One 500 ton
license, Four 100 ton licenses and one guy who just made AB. Three were
heading to 3rd Mate Unlimited Tonnage school, One was waiting for an opening
for a 3rd Mate job and now has it.


Sounds like the offshore industry is booming again, make hay while the
sun shines!


Without the sail endorsement you are not allowed to operate with paying
passengers or charge to deliver a sailing vessel. Besides you don't need a
license to take people out for a sail. Without the towing endorsement you
are not allowed to accept payment for towing but you can still tow. However
if you are doing either one for free or fun AND have a licenseyou are still
liable and held to a higher standard as if you were getting paid. It's a
two edged sword.

But then when the only reason to have one is a wall decoration does it
matter?


Dumb question coming from someone that is making a living at sea. You
should value and show respect for knowledge.

Most do not have a clue, and could care less.




Cheers and fair winds

Same to you Mike. Sounds like your getting some serious deep water
time, aint nothing like it is there?

Joe
MSV RedCloud


MST