SkitchNYC wrote:

.... my brother is now the proud owner
of a 1972 Morgan 28, which he will cruise singlehandedly next year first north
for the summer and then south to the Bahamas starting in the spring.

Good choice. How is he outfitting it, what's the approx budget? What engine?
Inquiring minds want to know. I like the older Morgans, the 28 is a pretty good
sailing boat and with it's shoal draft, is an outstanding smallish cruiser for the
Southeast, Gulf, and Bahamas.

There seems to be a big price differential between the M28 and the M30, bigger than
the size or capability difference. I wonder if it's due to the boats looks. I
really like the M34 which is just a stretched 30, and seems to go for the same $$.
Might cost a bit more to keep.


A while
ago I asked Bob for help in locating a boat for him, but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double its
worth. Thanks for the help, Boobs.

And you expected different? Bubbles is nuts.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

SkitchNYC wrote:

.... my brother is now the proud owner
of a 1972 Morgan 28, which he will cruise singlehandedly next year first
north
for the summer and then south to the Bahamas starting in the spring.

Good choice. How is he outfitting it, what's the approx budget? What engine?
Inquiring minds want to know. I like the older Morgans, the 28 is a pretty
good
sailing boat and with it's shoal draft, is an outstanding smallish cruiser
for the
Southeast, Gulf, and Bahamas.

It is solid and sound and had a Perkins diesel put in in the early 90s. The
bow pulpit needs major work and some things need updating, like old-style
seacock, fix centerboard pivot and crazed hatches, etc. Budget is very low,
as this is just a kid who doesn't know what to do with his life and will spend
a little time wandering in a sailboat. The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when he hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.


There seems to be a big price differential between the M28 and the M30,
bigger than
the size or capability difference. I wonder if it's due to the boats looks. I
really like the M34 which is just a stretched 30, and seems to go for the
same $$.
Might cost a bit more to keep.

Don't know too much about other Morgans, as we were shopping by price and not
looking only at Morgans. We did, however, look at an OI 28. It had more in
the way of accomodations, but was a butt ugly little boat, and slow as a snail
I am sure.

A while
ago I asked Bob for help in locating a boat for him, but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double
its
worth. Thanks for the help, Boobs.

And you expected different?

Not really.

but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double
its

Which boat was this Skitch?

RB

'S funny his daughter didn't want to keep his logs. Did she know they were
there?

SV

"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
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SkitchNYC wrote:

The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when
he hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept
pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.

'S funny his daughter didn't want to keep his logs. Did she know they were
there?


I don't think so. We found them in the boat, with all the other stuff.

SkitchNYC wrote:


It is solid and sound and had a Perkins diesel put in in the early 90s.

heh heh heh didn't the old guy know that you never get your rmoney back out of a
diesel repower?


....The
bow pulpit needs major work and some things need updating, like old-style
seacock, fix centerboard pivot and crazed hatches, etc.

He definitely needs to pay attention to the centerboard pivot & hoisting gear.
After this many decades, the sheaves freeze, winch pawl is shot, etc etc.
Fortunately it's not major bucks but it can try ones patience putting it all back
in order. And it's a royal PITA if it fails out there somewhere.

....Budget is very low,
as this is just a kid who doesn't know what to do with his life and will spend
a little time wandering in a sailboat.

I wonder if he'll find anything else more worth doing.....

The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when he hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.

Sounds great. The two greatest little singlehanding tricks I know of are
rollerfurling and learning to dock with a midships line. This boat is small enough
that he could put on single line reefing from the cockpit, too. That'd come in
handy.



Don't know too much about other Morgans, as we were shopping by price and not
looking only at Morgans.

IMHO you chose pretty well.


We did, however, look at an OI 28. It had more in
the way of accomodations, but was a butt ugly little boat, and slow as a snail
I am sure.

Yep. While I don't want to offend my several friends who have OIs of one size or
another, they are not good sailing boats and their much vaunted roominess pales in
comparison with modern designs. We saw a large one (an OI44 ketch originally)
converted to a trawler, with a solid pilothouse, stern platform, work shop, newish
John Deere engine, etc etc. Made a pretty nice cruising rig. Excellent fuel economy
and a lot of cruising capability for the bucks. The real kicker is that it was a
much better looking boat after the conversion!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

It is solid and sound and had a Perkins diesel put in in the early 90s.

heh heh heh didn't the old guy know that you never get your rmoney back out
of a
diesel repower?

Especially if you die and leave the boat to your daughter.

....The
bow pulpit needs major work and some things need updating, like old-style
seacock, fix centerboard pivot and crazed hatches, etc.

He definitely needs to pay attention to the centerboard pivot & hoisting
gear.
After this many decades, the sheaves freeze, winch pawl is shot, etc etc.
Fortunately it's not major bucks but it can try ones patience putting it all
back
in order. And it's a royal PITA if it fails out there somewhere.

It definitely needs work and he is going to have to replicate the parts as best
as possible, but it is apart and looks pretty simple.

....Budget is very low,
as this is just a kid who doesn't know what to do with his life and will
spend
a little time wandering in a sailboat.

I wonder if he'll find anything else more worth doing.....

I hope not, it is a little vicarious living for me for the moment.

The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when he
hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept
pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.

Sounds great. The two greatest little singlehanding tricks I know of are
rollerfurling and learning to dock with a midships line. This boat is small
enough
that he could put on single line reefing from the cockpit, too. That'd come
in
handy.

Already has RF headsail. Believe it or note, the old guy flew a spinnaker
alone. That will come later. Definitely want single line reefing, as well as
a vane and better jackline attachment points.



Don't know too much about other Morgans, as we were shopping by price and
not
looking only at Morgans.

IMHO you chose pretty well. While I don't want to offend my several friends
who have OIs of one size
or
another, they are not good sailing boats and their much vaunted roominess
pales in
comparison with modern designs. We saw a large one (an OI44 ketch originally)
converted to a trawler, with a solid pilothouse, stern platform, work shop,
newish
John Deere engine, etc etc. Made a pretty nice cruising rig. Excellent fuel
economy
and a lot of cruising capability for the bucks. The real kicker is that it
was a
much better looking boat after the conversion!

That is about what they are good for. I can kinda picture it and believe that
it would look good without a mast and with a pilothouse on it. Speaking of
pilothouses, we came across a number of micro PH sailboats from weird makers
during our search - it intrigued us, but they cost too much and we estimated
they would not sail very well.