Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...
The original post started with changing the line, only mentioned splicing
once, and ended with the thought of changing the line.. You could splice the
line without changing it, but if the line is worn to the point that it would
need to be spliced, why bother? You might be able to disassemble the unit
without any visual aids, but it would probably be a good idea to call Hood
and have them send a free manual, if you don't want to pay for a replacement
line(continuous) then there are quite a few knot books on the market that
will show you how to do this. Better yet, call Hood and ask for the manual,
then ask the cost of the replacement line. You could then easily determine
if you wanted to use their replacement part or attempt to make your own.
John Cairns

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
...
I have a line-drive furler and the manual that came with it. If splicing
the
line is the main problem, the manual won't help. It doesn't describe how
to
do a splice.

Steve Thomas

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
I would contact Hood. I have a Hood furler on my Catalina, they sent me
a
manual free of charge.
http://www.pompanette.com/pompweb.nsf/pages/hoodmain
John Cairns
"JR" wrote in message
. com...
I have to change the continuous line on my Hood roller furler. Is
there
instruction anywhere on splicing the line? Is that what I need to do?
Now in
dry-dock,
the line could use a change, showing its wear. Any direction is much
appreciated. I'll no doubt have other questions as I seek to set her
up
properly. Thanks.

Ryan

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns

You just proved my point for there are no bigger, spoiled brat,
sailing-(and capsizing)-boats-way-too-big-for-one-person-to-handle
sissies than racers - especially French racers. Anytime any piece
of equipment allows unseamanlike practices to proliferate it tells
me and any other sane individual that it's certainly not a good thing.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns

Are you saying a luff foil does not improve sail performance?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
You just proved my point for there are no bigger, spoiled brat,
sailing-(and capsizing)-boats-way-too-big-for-one-person-to-handle
sissies than racers - especially French racers. Anytime any piece
of equipment allows unseamanlike practices to proliferate it tells
me and any other sane individual that it's certainly not a good thing.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns

I said no such thing. I only said that roll-ups are for
sissies and wannabe racers. They make no sense at
all for cruising sailors because they represent extra
expense, extra risk of failure, extra complication
and worst of all they are just plain ugly. Most are
very inefficient unless unrolled all the way and since
they are generally made way large they need to be
partially rolled a good deal of the time. They are
crap and there's no arguing the fact.

S.Simon - nothing but real sails aboard my yacht.


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Are you saying a luff foil does not improve sail performance?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
You just proved my point for there are no bigger, spoiled brat,
sailing-(and capsizing)-boats-way-too-big-for-one-person-to-handle
sissies than racers - especially French racers. Anytime any piece
of equipment allows unseamanlike practices to proliferate it tells
me and any other sane individual that it's certainly not a good thing.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns

"Simple Simon" wrote:

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits?
S.Simon


Well, if you are flying for the US Forest guys and putting out fires,
the answer is yes. You have to buy Nomex.

LP

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
..

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

Gee, and all this time I thought it was sensible not to go to the bow to
reduce sail area when it's blowing like stink and the seas are up to 30'. I
should write a letter to those race organizers protesting their absolutely
dismal safety practices.


All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

So they should probably make seat belts in passenger vehicles optional. The
government shouldn't test vehicles for crash worthiness, so what if the roof
collapses when you have a roll over accident. That stuff about vehicle gas
tanks rupturing is just sissy stuff that the average consumer shouldn't
worry about. A final thought, there must be quite a few senseless cruisers,
I can't recall the last time I saw a cruising boat built in the last 20
years that didn't have roller furling as an option. The only drawback that
comes to mind is it is something you wouldn't be able to slap together from
bits of scrap metal.
John Cairns
S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to
failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and
totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns

I think that one could argue that one should reduce sail
in advance of conditions such as the one you describe.
However, I have sailed many miles with furlers and
never had a problem. They are a safe and reliable tool.
We don't use them on our teaching boats for a couple of
reasons mainly. They're expensive and we're on a limited
budget. We want students to know what it takes to change
head sails, and we want them to know how to plan in
advance to do that.

"kim cairns" wrote in message
...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

Gee, and all this time I thought it was sensible not to go to the bow to
reduce sail area when it's blowing like stink and the seas are up to 30'.
I
should write a letter to those race organizers protesting their absolutely
dismal safety practices.


All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

So they should probably make seat belts in passenger vehicles optional.
The
government shouldn't test vehicles for crash worthiness, so what if the
roof
collapses when you have a roll over accident. That stuff about vehicle gas
tanks rupturing is just sissy stuff that the average consumer shouldn't
worry about. A final thought, there must be quite a few senseless
cruisers,
I can't recall the last time I saw a cruising boat built in the last 20
years that didn't have roller furling as an option. The only drawback that
comes to mind is it is something you wouldn't be able to slap together
from
bits of scrap metal.
John Cairns
S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to
failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and
totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us
know.
John Cairns

Absolutely correct. One should have hanked or foiled sails on a training
vessel. I have never had any problems with my furler, the only person I know
of that had any problems had a damaged unit that they didn't fix. Another
point that SS ignores, they (and other labor saving devices) allow people to
sail at an age that they otherwise might not be able to. I hadn't thought of
this until one of our local club members mentioned that they had in-mast
furling on their 40' Beneteau, with the aside that it made sailing the boat
easier. If not for these devices, these folks might be sailing a trawler.
John Cairns
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I think that one could argue that one should reduce sail
in advance of conditions such as the one you describe.
However, I have sailed many miles with furlers and
never had a problem. They are a safe and reliable tool.
We don't use them on our teaching boats for a couple of
reasons mainly. They're expensive and we're on a limited
budget. We want students to know what it takes to change
head sails, and we want them to know how to plan in
advance to do that.

"kim cairns" wrote in message
...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

Gee, and all this time I thought it was sensible not to go to the bow to
reduce sail area when it's blowing like stink and the seas are up to
30'.
I
should write a letter to those race organizers protesting their
absolutely
dismal safety practices.


All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

So they should probably make seat belts in passenger vehicles optional.
The
government shouldn't test vehicles for crash worthiness, so what if the
roof
collapses when you have a roll over accident. That stuff about vehicle
gas
tanks rupturing is just sissy stuff that the average consumer shouldn't
worry about. A final thought, there must be quite a few senseless
cruisers,
I can't recall the last time I saw a cruising boat built in the last 20
years that didn't have roller furling as an option. The only drawback
that
comes to mind is it is something you wouldn't be able to slap together
from
bits of scrap metal.
John Cairns
S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to
failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and
totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us
know.
John Cairns

"Simple Simon" wrote:
S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Like you would know how a woman decorates in this century...

Let me give you a hint, sweetheart... I sold my mauve leather sofa
and loveseat. Now I have a alabaster leather sofa/loveseat with four
recliners.

You need to get a new decorator, Neil...a yellow boat with mauve
cushions don't match...

LP