Neal's Awful Sails
 

I wonder how long it will take that new sail working back and forth to have a
nice hole worn through it by that repaired area.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Neal's Awful Sails
 

Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...



I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...



Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...




I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

The white powder (aluminum oxide) can be evidenced by swelling
of the metal's outside surface. As you can see in the very clear
picture there is none of that. If it ain't broke then don't fix it.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...



Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...




I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

If the outside swells the Al is paper thin!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

The white powder (aluminum oxide) can be evidenced by swelling
of the metal's outside surface. As you can see in the very clear
picture there is none of that. If it ain't broke then don't fix it.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...



I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...




Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:





Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...





I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair.

No, the best repaire is a proper unbroken boom! The crack is NOT even! Clearly
COMPRESSED at the top and pulling apart at the base.
Have another look!

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Sorry to rain on your parade, even if said parade is very cheap sails on
damaged spars!

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

You can't wait for that. You need to check where the corrosion
starts not where it ends.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


The white powder (aluminum oxide) can be evidenced by swelling
of the metal's outside surface. As you can see in the very clear
picture there is none of that. If it ain't broke then don't fix it.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I
even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure
any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No
water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the
very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over
ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...


I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get
an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot
be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just
so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and
two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the
egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...



Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...




I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap
looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to
keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same
old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond
it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even
cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

Why would anybody resort to such a low blow?

wrote in message ...
Look, Mommy! Bobsprit is back!

Neal's Awful Sails
 

You are seeing the natural results of the forces involved.
The very small separation at the bottom and the closed
gap at the top is an expected consequence. Over the
years this situation has remained stable.

Remember that the bales are each held in place with
four machine screws which are threaded through the
aluminum and into the galvanized iron pipes. The force
is thus distributed into the iron pipes which then pull
down on the boom for a length of about five feet and
spread the load in a manner much superior to the
original set up.

I hope this molifies you.

S.Simon

("Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair.

No, the best repaire is a proper unbroken boom! The crack is NOT even! Clearly
COMPRESSED at the top and pulling apart at the base.
Have another look!

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Sorry to rain on your parade, even if said parade is very cheap sails on
damaged spars!

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY

Neal's Awful Sails
 

Ya know a new boom section for that boat would probably only have cost you a
couple of hundred bucks. A new section would have been lighter, stiffer,
stronger and much safer.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport