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Bobsprit October 2nd 03 10:48 PM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY

Capt. Mooron October 2nd 03 10:51 PM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Now Bob... he just describing his new rig... a "Junk" rigged Coronado!!

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaa


CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking
bargain
| basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that
BENT
| BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!
|
| http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg
|
| Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired
finish
| is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut
due to
| the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails
to a
| compromised spar?
| The man is a raging idiot.
|
| Take care and enjoy yourselves....
|
| Capt Robert B
| C&C 32
| NY



Simple Simon October 3rd 03 01:22 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY




Simple Simon October 3rd 03 01:38 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 


It'll beat your slow coach with the OLD sails. With the new
sails I think J/24s are not totally beneath me. I'm gonna go
looking for a J/30 or two just to humiliate them.

S.Simon


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Now Bob... he just describing his new rig... a "Junk" rigged Coronado!!

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaa


CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking
bargain
| basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that
BENT
| BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!
|
| http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg
|
| Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired
finish
| is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut
due to
| the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails
to a
| compromised spar?
| The man is a raging idiot.
|
| Take care and enjoy yourselves....
|
| Capt Robert B
| C&C 32
| NY





The_navigator© October 3rd 03 01:56 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY






Simple Simon October 3rd 03 02:14 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY








The_navigator© October 3rd 03 02:14 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...


I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY







Simple Simon October 3rd 03 02:27 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...


I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY









The_navigator© October 3rd 03 02:30 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...



I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY








SAIL LOCO October 3rd 03 02:34 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
JEEEZZZZZZZZZZE along with those 3 strand halyards that boat still has those
old blocks with the fibre (cardboard) cheeks. I've only seen those on old
boats at the marina that were being chainsawed and thrown into a dumpster.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SAIL LOCO October 3rd 03 02:36 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
I wonder how long it will take that new sail working back and forth to have a
nice hole worn through it by that repaired area.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Simple Simon October 3rd 03 02:47 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...



I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY










The_navigator© October 3rd 03 02:50 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...



Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...




I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY








Simple Simon October 3rd 03 03:06 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 


The white powder (aluminum oxide) can be evidenced by swelling
of the metal's outside surface. As you can see in the very clear
picture there is none of that. If it ain't broke then don't fix it.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...



Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...




I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY










The_navigator© October 3rd 03 04:02 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
If the outside swells the Al is paper thin!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

The white powder (aluminum oxide) can be evidenced by swelling
of the metal's outside surface. As you can see in the very clear
picture there is none of that. If it ain't broke then don't fix it.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...



I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...




Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:





Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...





I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY








Bobsprit October 3rd 03 04:23 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair.

No, the best repaire is a proper unbroken boom! The crack is NOT even! Clearly
COMPRESSED at the top and pulling apart at the base.
Have another look!

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Sorry to rain on your parade, even if said parade is very cheap sails on
damaged spars!

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY

Jonathan Ganz October 3rd 03 06:43 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
You can't wait for that. You need to check where the corrosion
starts not where it ends.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


The white powder (aluminum oxide) can be evidenced by swelling
of the metal's outside surface. As you can see in the very clear
picture there is none of that. If it ain't broke then don't fix it.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message

...
When was the last time you took the boom off and cechecd the inside for
the white powder of Al death?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Negative, the outhaul is an external block and tackle with
the bitter end going around a rounded groove in the end cap
of the boom and cleating to a clam cleat underneath the boom.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message

...

Doesn't your outhaul make a hole for water to get in?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Don't be concerned. The crack is filled with silicone sealant and I

even
went to the trouble to v-shape the groove in the boom to make sure

any
water that wanted to collect in the channel would just drip out. No

water
gets into the crack as it is totally sealed. Don't you see on the

very bottom
that there is no indent? No rust or corrosion is evident after over

ten years.

The repair is bonafide!

S.Simon - knows how things work


"The_navigator©" wrote in message

...


I'm just worried about the salt on those galvanized pipes -that's an
awful big crack! Hey, why not get a new boom -you can probably get

an
old one or broken mast to cut to size!

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot

be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair. Well, it just

so
happens I put a sleeve INSIDE where it cannot be seen in the form
of one large diameter pipe to fit the bottom side of the boom and

two
smaller pipes to fit the spaces above that were left open in the

egg-
shaped boom. I even consulted an engineer friend and he assured
me my repair was stronger than the rest of the boom.

You idiots hate it because it was done for less than twenty bucks
and it is BETTER than new.

S.Simon.




"The_navigator©" wrote in message

...



Oh brother. You go to sea with it like that????

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:




Hey Booby I took a picture of the cut and repaired boom just
to shut your fat ass up because I know you would come out
of hiding to complain about it.

Check it out at:

Http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Bwaaahahahahahahahahah

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...




I just had to make a momentary return!!! Pics of Neal's cheap

looking bargain
basement sails are reason enough! I note that he's careful to

keep that BENT
BOOM out of the shots, but he left this one in!!!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/shelffootjpg.jpg

Not only in the boom bent (with NO repair evident as the same

old tired finish
is visible straight across), but the sail appears baggy beyond

it's cut due to
the bend/damage. Of course he rarely sails, but why add even

cheap sails to a
compromised spar?
The man is a raging idiot.

Take care and enjoy yourselves....

Capt Robert B
C&C 32
NY












Simple Simon October 3rd 03 03:16 PM

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Why would anybody resort to such a low blow?

wrote in message ...
Look, Mommy! Bobsprit is back!




Simple Simon October 3rd 03 03:23 PM

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You are seeing the natural results of the forces involved.
The very small separation at the bottom and the closed
gap at the top is an expected consequence. Over the
years this situation has remained stable.

Remember that the bales are each held in place with
four machine screws which are threaded through the
aluminum and into the galvanized iron pipes. The force
is thus distributed into the iron pipes which then pull
down on the boom for a length of about five feet and
spread the load in a manner much superior to the
original set up.

I hope this molifies you.

S.Simon

("Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Why not go to sea with it? There are pipes inside that you cannot be
seen. Somebody once said a sleeve is the best repair.

No, the best repaire is a proper unbroken boom! The crack is NOT even! Clearly
COMPRESSED at the top and pulling apart at the base.
Have another look!

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/files/Boomrepair.jpg

Sorry to rain on your parade, even if said parade is very cheap sails on
damaged spars!

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY




SAIL LOCO October 3rd 03 03:42 PM

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Ya know a new boom section for that boat would probably only have cost you a
couple of hundred bucks. A new section would have been lighter, stiffer,
stronger and much safer.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Simple Simon October 3rd 03 03:57 PM

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One of these days I might get a new boom but until the original
shows some proneness to failure I'll stick with it.

I bet if I went out and bought a nice new fancy and strong boom
you idiots would be jumping all over me for wasting money on
an expensive boom for a 'worthless' boat. I know how you are.

You're not like sailors (except for Jeff, Mooron and a few others)
and that's for sure!

S.Simon - repairing and sailing is better than buying new and
sailing. It builds character on both the ship and the
captain.


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
Ya know a new boom section for that boat would probably only have cost you a
couple of hundred bucks. A new section would have been lighter, stiffer,
stronger and much safer.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




Thom Stewart October 3rd 03 04:40 PM

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Loco,

He modified the Boom that is on there. He wanted a Mid Boom sheeting
set-up. That is what caused the break. He reinforced the area of the
break and it is working,

It isn't just a problem of getting another boom. It's a modified boom
and he is making it work. Good or Bad, it is working.

Granted it may be heavy enough that he doesn't need a vang,G It is his
modification and he is happy with. Its' no skin off our ass.

OT


SAIL LOCO October 3rd 03 04:57 PM

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repairing and sailing is better than buying new and sailing. It builds
character on both the ship and the captain.

That might be true with the exception of the rig and below the waterline.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Bobsprit October 3rd 03 05:21 PM

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It isn't just a problem of getting another boom. It's a modified boom
and he is making it work. Good or Bad, it is working.

Thom, did you take a class in being a jerk? Gullable? What makes you think Neal
has tested that boom in any kind of real weather. He has NEVER left these
boards nor his mooring for any length of time. When he told us of a trip, he
continued to battle Jax in another forum!

Snap out of it! There's no santa either!

RB

Jeff Morris October 3rd 03 06:01 PM

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You keep saying that, but he did leave (was it a year ago?) for his trip to the Abacos.
He posted a detailed log, which I'm inclined to believe, especially since it was filled
with comments about motorsailing. Frankly, I don't think its that great of an
achievement, but its a lot more than you've done.

I have no trouble believing Neal been to the Bahamas several times, the Dry Tortugas, and
up the SE coast. I'm a bit skeptical of his trip to Bermuda, but there's no reason why he
couldn't do that. This is not remarkable stuff - anyone that wants to can do it - it
doesn't even take much preparation or talent.

The real mystery is why you keep trying to impress us with your daysails.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It isn't just a problem of getting another boom. It's a modified boom
and he is making it work. Good or Bad, it is working.

Thom, did you take a class in being a jerk? Gullable? What makes you think Neal
has tested that boom in any kind of real weather. He has NEVER left these
boards nor his mooring for any length of time. When he told us of a trip, he
continued to battle Jax in another forum!

Snap out of it! There's no santa either!

RB




Thom Stewart October 3rd 03 06:47 PM

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Cripes Nutsy,

I thougt you were gone. What happen?
I believed that too. Guess you can't trust anyone.

OT




Simple Simon October 3rd 03 07:56 PM

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wrote in message ...
Repairing is better than buying new? Then why did you buy new sails?



There comes a time when repairing old sails becomes
counter-productive while this is definitely NOT the case
yet with my boom. Sails are consisered a normal wear
item - booms are not (unless they're made from wood).

Only an idiot would ask such a stupid question.

S.Simon



Simple Simon October 3rd 03 08:30 PM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
You're just jealous because I make fools like you look bad.

While you would spend good money on pruchasing a new
boom that would break again in severe wind conditions I
have repaired mine for less than 20 bucks and it will NOT
break again in storm conditions because it has been tried
and tested.

I got caught in a thunderstorm in the Bahamas in the Whale
Cay channel last year and was struck with ten minutes
of winds gusting to seventy knots and did not even have a
chance to reef the main. The boom and full main withstood
the onslaught by being hauled down hard and tight as I
could manage and by pinching into the wind so there was
lots of luffing going on. Even my tired, 30-year-old jib held.
It is an orginal sail that came with the boat made by Vector.

Can you claim the same for your boom? I think not!

S.Simon

wrote in message ...
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:56:51 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:


wrote in message ...
Repairing is better than buying new? Then why did you buy new sails?



There comes a time when repairing old sails becomes
counter-productive while this is definitely NOT the case
yet with my boom. Sails are consisered a normal wear
item - booms are not (unless they're made from wood).

Only an idiot would ask such a stupid question.

S.Simon


You are clearly no sailor! Do you also splice together frayed
jacklines and tethers?

BB - who might fix a boom in an emergency while at sea to get him
home, but would then replace it before setting out again.




Capt. Mooron October 3rd 03 10:41 PM

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Simple... Bill hates you... can you blame him?

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Why would anybody resort to such a low blow?
|
| wrote in message
...
| Look, Mommy! Bobsprit is back!
|
|
|



Capt. Mooron October 3rd 03 10:49 PM

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Let'em Yelp!... it gives them a vent for their over pressured spleens.
I mean really... how much pressure can be exerted on that boom anyway.
Next thing you know they'll be wailing about the need for carbon fiber on an
optimist!!


CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| One of these days I might get a new boom but until the original
| shows some proneness to failure I'll stick with it.
|
| I bet if I went out and bought a nice new fancy and strong boom
| you idiots would be jumping all over me for wasting money on
| an expensive boom for a 'worthless' boat. I know how you are.
|
| You're not like sailors (except for Jeff, Mooron and a few others)
| and that's for sure!
|
| S.Simon - repairing and sailing is better than buying new and
| sailing. It builds character on both the ship and the
| captain.
|
|
| "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Ya know a new boom section for that boat would probably only have cost
you a
| couple of hundred bucks. A new section would have been lighter,
stiffer,
| stronger and much safer.
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| Trains are a winter sport
|
|



Capt. Mooron October 3rd 03 10:52 PM

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Bob... let me put it plainly... until you venture out of the bay... kindly
shut your gaping maw when real sailors are talking. You have yet to learn to
sail let a lone navigate.
Learn your place in the pecking order here... it should give you a clear
view of the sole of my shoes.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| It isn't just a problem of getting another boom. It's a modified boom
| and he is making it work. Good or Bad, it is working.
|
| Thom, did you take a class in being a jerk? Gullable? What makes you think
Neal
| has tested that boom in any kind of real weather. He has NEVER left these
| boards nor his mooring for any length of time. When he told us of a trip,
he
| continued to battle Jax in another forum!
|
| Snap out of it! There's no santa either!
|
| RB



SAIL LOCO October 4th 03 02:32 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 
how much pressure can be exerted on that boom anyway.

I'd be willing to bet quite a bit with mid boom sheeting in a big air auto
jibe.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Capt. Mooron October 4th 03 03:19 AM

Neal's Awful Sails
 

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| how much pressure can be exerted on that boom anyway.
|
| I'd be willing to bet quite a bit with mid boom sheeting in a big air auto
| jibe.

Pl-l-u-u-u-e-e-e-e-e-z-z-z..... My pet duck has more canvas on it's bunk
than Neal's boat!
Two clothespins and a length of Bamboo would be overkill already!!!!

CM




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