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Bertie the Bunyip September 29th 03 02:02 PM

Titanium hull?
 
(JAXAshby) wrote in
:

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut it **IS* miserably difficult to weld,
so who cares.


do a lot of titanium welding Jaxhole?

How are the nerves BTW?





Bertie



Joe September 30th 03 09:59 PM

Titanium hull?
 
Scout wrote in message . ..
Check out Scientific American (Oct 2003) article "Alchemy of a
Supermetal" A new process for wresting pure titanium from ore may
soon make the affordable titanium hull and other sailboat components a
reality. The pure form of the ninth most common element on earth is
expensive now only because of the chemical reduction process currently
used to extract it. A few bright metallurgists at Cambridge have
found a significantly easier way to produce it. The challenge now is
to produce it in commercial volume. Might be worth investing.
Scout



Titanium might be nice hull material. But my next boat will be made of
90-10 copper nickle. One called Pretty Penny launched in 1979 and
never hauled
until 1995. No growth barnicales or loss of metal at all. A perfect
hull.

She is stillperfect and moored in the river Swale, at Uplees off the
Thames
estuary in the UK if anyone wants to see a maintenance free boat.

Still you need deep pockets, It cost about 10 times the cost of Steel.

It's all in Bruce Roberts Book The complete guide to Metal Boats;
McGraw Hill

Joe
MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!

Simple Simon September 30th 03 10:09 PM

Titanium hull?
 
I sure cannot figure out why some people insist on such heavy,
slow boats made out of maintenance intensive steel and impossible
to repair copper, nickel. Maybe one could melt down a bunch
of five-cent coins and get the hull cheaper.

Bottom line is nothing beats plain old fiberglass with polyester resin
when it comes to strength, longevity and maintenance free operation.

S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
Scout wrote in message . ..
Check out Scientific American (Oct 2003) article "Alchemy of a
Supermetal" A new process for wresting pure titanium from ore may
soon make the affordable titanium hull and other sailboat components a
reality. The pure form of the ninth most common element on earth is
expensive now only because of the chemical reduction process currently
used to extract it. A few bright metallurgists at Cambridge have
found a significantly easier way to produce it. The challenge now is
to produce it in commercial volume. Might be worth investing.
Scout



Titanium might be nice hull material. But my next boat will be made of
90-10 copper nickle. One called Pretty Penny launched in 1979 and
never hauled
until 1995. No growth barnicales or loss of metal at all. A perfect
hull.

She is stillperfect and moored in the river Swale, at Uplees off the
Thames
estuary in the UK if anyone wants to see a maintenance free boat.

Still you need deep pockets, It cost about 10 times the cost of Steel.

It's all in Bruce Roberts Book The complete guide to Metal Boats;
McGraw Hill

Joe
MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!




SAIL LOCO October 1st 03 01:50 AM

Titanium hull?
 
Bottom line is nothing beats plain old fiberglass with polyester resin
when it comes to strength, longevity and maintenance free operation.

Get with the times mooring stud. Epoxy resin is what's used today. I keep
telling you you know nothing about boats.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Jonathan Ganz October 1st 03 03:00 AM

Titanium hull?
 
Right on... get a catamaran or trimaran made out of glass...
go fast, can't sink, relax while sailing.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I sure cannot figure out why some people insist on such heavy,
slow boats made out of maintenance intensive steel and impossible
to repair copper, nickel. Maybe one could melt down a bunch
of five-cent coins and get the hull cheaper.

Bottom line is nothing beats plain old fiberglass with polyester resin
when it comes to strength, longevity and maintenance free operation.

S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message

om...
Scout wrote in message

. ..
Check out Scientific American (Oct 2003) article "Alchemy of a
Supermetal" A new process for wresting pure titanium from ore may
soon make the affordable titanium hull and other sailboat components a
reality. The pure form of the ninth most common element on earth is
expensive now only because of the chemical reduction process currently
used to extract it. A few bright metallurgists at Cambridge have
found a significantly easier way to produce it. The challenge now is
to produce it in commercial volume. Might be worth investing.
Scout



Titanium might be nice hull material. But my next boat will be made of
90-10 copper nickle. One called Pretty Penny launched in 1979 and
never hauled
until 1995. No growth barnicales or loss of metal at all. A perfect
hull.

She is stillperfect and moored in the river Swale, at Uplees off the
Thames
estuary in the UK if anyone wants to see a maintenance free boat.

Still you need deep pockets, It cost about 10 times the cost of Steel.

It's all in Bruce Roberts Book The complete guide to Metal Boats;
McGraw Hill

Joe
MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!






Vito October 1st 03 02:03 PM

Titanium hull?
 
Joe wrote:

MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!


Awww...errr.... (shuffle feet) ... didn't they say the same about
Titanic?

Joe October 1st 03 05:49 PM

Titanium hull?
 
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
I sure cannot figure out why some people insist on such heavy,
slow boats made out of maintenance intensive steel and impossible
to repair copper, nickel. Maybe one could melt down a bunch
of five-cent coins and get the hull cheaper.


First of all RedCloud would leave you in the dust anyday. I can make
8.5 kts (hull speed)24hrs a day for over 2 weeks, and that's with no
wind. Want to race to England?

Melting Nickles ----Sheeezzzzee You weld them together like a quilt.
Duhhhhhhh


Bottom line is nothing beats plain old fiberglass with polyester resin
when it comes to strength,


Another challange. Lets meet at the east bank of the Flower Gardena.
Full speed lets ram into each other, and lets see which hull is
stonger.

longevity and maintenance free operation.

How old is your Coranodo? Is it really maintenance free?

RedCloud was made in 1976 and is kept pristine and rust free, but I do
have to maintain it.

Joe
MSV RedCloud- Will anchor upwind of Neal someday and run my generator
all night.




S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
Scout wrote in message . ..
Check out Scientific American (Oct 2003) article "Alchemy of a
Supermetal" A new process for wresting pure titanium from ore may
soon make the affordable titanium hull and other sailboat components a
reality. The pure form of the ninth most common element on earth is
expensive now only because of the chemical reduction process currently
used to extract it. A few bright metallurgists at Cambridge have
found a significantly easier way to produce it. The challenge now is
to produce it in commercial volume. Might be worth investing.
Scout



Titanium might be nice hull material. But my next boat will be made of
90-10 copper nickle. One called Pretty Penny launched in 1979 and
never hauled
until 1995. No growth barnicales or loss of metal at all. A perfect
hull.

She is stillperfect and moored in the river Swale, at Uplees off the
Thames
estuary in the UK if anyone wants to see a maintenance free boat.

Still you need deep pockets, It cost about 10 times the cost of Steel.

It's all in Bruce Roberts Book The complete guide to Metal Boats;
McGraw Hill

Joe
MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!


Joe October 1st 03 07:25 PM

Titanium hull?
 
Vito wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:

MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!


Awww...errr.... (shuffle feet) ... didn't they say the same about
Titanic?


No. The Titanic was buildt of Irish Steel.

Joe

The_navigator© October 2nd 03 11:46 PM

Titanium hull?
 
Steel? Irish?

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

Vito wrote in message ...

Joe wrote:

MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!


Awww...errr.... (shuffle feet) ... didn't they say the same about
Titanic?



No. The Titanic was buildt of Irish Steel.

Joe



Joe October 5th 03 07:16 PM

Titanium hull?
 
The_navigator© wrote in message ...
Steel? Irish?



Yeah Steel rivits annealed and made in Belfast and applied to the hull
at Harland & Woff Shipyard in Belfast Ireland. Thats the place where
the Titanic was made BTW.

The steel hull plates where made by D. Colville & Co from Scotland.

Most experts think the rivits failed at the head loads, allowing seams
to rip open on the Titanics hull. Many think the same flawed riviting
might have doomed the HMS Hood.

Joe
MSV RedCloud
Still made of the finest British Steel & Monel money could buy.



Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

Vito wrote in message ...

Joe wrote:

MSV RedCloud......Made of the finest English Steel money could buy!

Awww...errr.... (shuffle feet) ... didn't they say the same about
Titanic?



No. The Titanic was buildt of Irish Steel.

Joe



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