best way to patch a thru hull?
 

If the through hull is 1.5 inches and the hull 0.5 inches thick Neal's
recommendation would give just a such a taper. I think you miss the
point though. In plugging a through hull the repair is not generally
intended to be structural -just a bond secure enough to stop the plug
falling out is all that is required. Finer tapers are of course needed
for full structural repairs where the stress on the laminate must be
transferred acorss the repair.

Cheers MC

DSK wrote:




The hole should be tapered in a radius of approximately
four times the radius of the hole itself.


Malarkey again.

The taper should be between 4:1 to 12:1 by thickness, the diameter of the
hole has nothing to do with it.

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...


Obviously, another intellectual here.


Obviously, You asked.


Is there another method that's as or more effective?


And I told you the answer. Steel when welded to steel will be stronger
and outlast any plastic or fiberglass patch. It's a fact.

A smarter person, an intellectual might have asked a more specific
question.


Joe
MSV RedCloud


Jonathan

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

I have heard that the plastic styrofoam will not decompose for 10,000
years. Perhaps if you had been more specific in your value judgment it
might have had more validity. If what you were saying was true,
surveyors would not check hull thickness on old steel boats would they?

Cheers MC

Joe Butcher wrote:



And I told you the answer. Steel when welded to steel will be stronger
and outlast any plastic or fiberglass patch. It's a fact.

A smarter person, an intellectual might have asked a more specific
question.


Joe
MSV RedCloud


Jonathan

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:03:11 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

Who are the Losers holding that flag???

You're looking at most of the Horvath Racing Syndicate.
In case you don't know, the blue flags are first place.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

Darn it all.... all I ever get is a Trophy!

What's Up with That!!??

CM

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:03:11 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote this crap:
|
| Who are the Losers holding that flag???
|
| You're looking at most of the Horvath Racing Syndicate.
| In case you don't know, the blue flags are first place.
|
|
|
|
|
| Ave Imperator Bush!
| Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

In the idiot line?

Cheers MC

Horvath wrote:

In case you don't know, the blue flags are first place.

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

A smarter person would know that fiberglass isn't steel.

"Joe Butcher" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...


Obviously, another intellectual here.


Obviously, You asked.


Is there another method that's as or more effective?


And I told you the answer. Steel when welded to steel will be stronger
and outlast any plastic or fiberglass patch. It's a fact.

A smarter person, an intellectual might have asked a more specific
question.


Joe
MSV RedCloud


Jonathan

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:21:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

Darn it all.... all I ever get is a Trophy!

What's Up with That!!??

You have to win a race to get a flag. The junk you get from those
truck stop 50 cent cranes don't really count as trophys.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:13:13 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

A smarter person would know that fiberglass isn't steel.

Then you wouldn't know, Jon-boy.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

Horass,

Is that where you pick up your boyfriends... in truck stops?
You must have a lot of experience with that. I wouldn't
call them trophies, but I guess you do.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:21:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

Darn it all.... all I ever get is a Trophy!

What's Up with That!!??

You have to win a race to get a flag. The junk you get from those
truck stop 50 cent cranes don't really count as trophys.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

Horass,

You're not making much sense. Do you think fiberglass = steel?

What a dufus.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:13:13 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

A smarter person would know that fiberglass isn't steel.

Then you wouldn't know, Jon-boy.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:24:18 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Horass,

Is that where you pick up your boyfriends... in truck stops?
You must have a lot of experience with that. I wouldn't
call them trophies, but I guess you do.

Must you turn every post into your homosexual fantasies?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

Horass,

Every one of your posts *is* a homosexual fantasy.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:24:18 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Horass,

Is that where you pick up your boyfriends... in truck stops?
You must have a lot of experience with that. I wouldn't
call them trophies, but I guess you do.

Must you turn every post into your homosexual fantasies?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:16:13 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Horass,

Every one of your posts *is* a homosexual fantasy.

Only to you.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull? - Winner.jpg (1/1)
 

Now that is scary... you're right... every one of your homo-fantasy
posts is only for me! Yikes... I really am not interest in you. I prefer
women without mustaches. I think you're in the wrong newsgroup.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:16:13 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Horass,

Every one of your posts *is* a homosexual fantasy.

Only to you.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

First of all, rust starts where the paint is scratched or the like. The crew
on the Golden gate bridge paint it to stop rust, again it rusts where the
paint is comprimised. Steel hulled ships, all I can say is I have never seen
a GPR ship of any real size.If you use CORTEN steel it will oxidize similar
to a guns bluing and not rust. Also to weld ripped or punctured steel you
need only hammers, dolly-bars and rod to repair steel, it does not shatter
the way GRP does. Close the gap and weld and you are done(other than paint
and ect). The only non maintinance advantage GRP has on steel is cost, that
is why my boat is GRP.
Wes Carroll Journeyman Sheetmetal/Tinsmith for the last 30 years.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...



"Joe Butcher" wrote in message
om...

I have news for you Captn.
If you paint steel it will not rust.

Now, that's funny! Tell that to all those body shops
who fix rusted out steel on cars. Tell that all the
shipyards that sandblast old rusted paint off and
apply new paint only to have to do it over again in
a year or two. Tell that to the bridge crews on
the Golden Gate bridge whose never ending job
is taking care of rust on painted steel. Boy, are
you a dreamer, Joe!

To plug a thru hull on a steel boat cost about 35 dollars if you have
to hire a welder. Takes about 1/2 an hour if you have the right tools.
If you have your own welder it will cost you 2.00 in rods and
materials. Then your back in the water in 1/2 a day verses a week on
an inferior plastic or fiberglass boat sitting in a shipyard.

To plug a hole in a GPR boat all it takes is a little grinding and
mixing of resin then wetting out some cloth then applying it. It
all takes 0nly a few hours. All materials can be carried aboard
and they aren't very heavy.No expensive and heavy welder or
access to 220 volt electricity is ever needed. It can all be done
on a remote sandbar somewhere. Try that with steel boat and
see how long it takes to weld up a hole in the hull.

Plus I can get steel anywhere in the world.

Why not carry a couple sheets of steel along like I do with
glass and resin? Then some rods and a welder along with
a big generator to run it?

Like I said, steel is an inferior material with which to build
a sailing yacht.

S.Simon - Captains sailing yacht, "Cut the Mustard", a
GRP vessel that's easy to fix with materials on
hand. Also, a GRP vessel that's safer than a
rust-prone "Red Cloud"!

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

Actually, they never stop painting the GG.

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
.. .
First of all, rust starts where the paint is scratched or the like. The
crew
on the Golden gate bridge paint it to stop rust, again it rusts where the
paint is comprimised. Steel hulled ships, all I can say is I have never
seen
a GPR ship of any real size.If you use CORTEN steel it will oxidize
similar
to a guns bluing and not rust. Also to weld ripped or punctured steel you
need only hammers, dolly-bars and rod to repair steel, it does not shatter
the way GRP does. Close the gap and weld and you are done(other than paint
and ect). The only non maintinance advantage GRP has on steel is cost,
that
is why my boat is GRP.
Wes Carroll Journeyman Sheetmetal/Tinsmith for the last 30 years.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...



"Joe Butcher" wrote in message
om...

I have news for you Captn.
If you paint steel it will not rust.

Now, that's funny! Tell that to all those body shops
who fix rusted out steel on cars. Tell that all the
shipyards that sandblast old rusted paint off and
apply new paint only to have to do it over again in
a year or two. Tell that to the bridge crews on
the Golden Gate bridge whose never ending job
is taking care of rust on painted steel. Boy, are
you a dreamer, Joe!

To plug a thru hull on a steel boat cost about 35 dollars if you have
to hire a welder. Takes about 1/2 an hour if you have the right tools.
If you have your own welder it will cost you 2.00 in rods and
materials. Then your back in the water in 1/2 a day verses a week on
an inferior plastic or fiberglass boat sitting in a shipyard.

To plug a hole in a GPR boat all it takes is a little grinding and
mixing of resin then wetting out some cloth then applying it. It
all takes 0nly a few hours. All materials can be carried aboard
and they aren't very heavy.No expensive and heavy welder or
access to 220 volt electricity is ever needed. It can all be done
on a remote sandbar somewhere. Try that with steel boat and
see how long it takes to weld up a hole in the hull.

Plus I can get steel anywhere in the world.

Why not carry a couple sheets of steel along like I do with
glass and resin? Then some rods and a welder along with
a big generator to run it?

Like I said, steel is an inferior material with which to build
a sailing yacht.

S.Simon - Captains sailing yacht, "Cut the Mustard", a
GRP vessel that's easy to fix with materials on
hand. Also, a GRP vessel that's safer than a
rust-prone "Red Cloud"!

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

What about aluminum vs. steel, Wes?

First of all, rust starts where the paint is scratched or the like. The crew
on the Golden gate bridge paint it to stop rust, again it rusts where the
paint is comprimised. Steel hulled ships, all I can say is I have never seen
a GPR ship of any real size.If you use CORTEN steel it will oxidize similar
to a guns bluing and not rust. Also to weld ripped or punctured steel you
need only hammers, dolly-bars and rod to repair steel, it does not shatter
the way GRP does. Close the gap and weld and you are done(other than paint
and ect). The only non maintinance advantage GRP has on steel is cost, that
is why my boat is GRP.
Wes Carroll Journeyman Sheetmetal/Tinsmith for the last 30 years.

best way to patch a thru hull?
 

Welding Aluminium requires a bit more skill and exclusive equipment. In
general the properties are similar enough but the additional welding
requirements give steel the nod IMHO.
"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
What about aluminum vs. steel, Wes?

First of all, rust starts where the paint is scratched or the like. The
crew
on the Golden gate bridge paint it to stop rust, again it rusts where the
paint is comprimised. Steel hulled ships, all I can say is I have never
seen
a GPR ship of any real size.If you use CORTEN steel it will oxidize
similar
to a guns bluing and not rust. Also to weld ripped or punctured steel you
need only hammers, dolly-bars and rod to repair steel, it does not
shatter
the way GRP does. Close the gap and weld and you are done(other than
paint
and ect). The only non maintinance advantage GRP has on steel is cost,
that
is why my boat is GRP.
Wes Carroll Journeyman Sheetmetal/Tinsmith for the last 30 years.