Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Neal, could you please take a photo showing us the repair area of the boom. I
don't believe you EVER made a repair. Had you done so, you would never have
allowed a bend to remain.
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to repair a broken spar at the expense
of far greater weight when you could have easily replaced it with a proper one.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

And the best way to repair is to sleeve the area.

Kryptonite works fine. Just use a Phaser to make the weld.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

You can see the repair in the following photo:

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/Closehaul2.jpg

See the lighter line forward of the aft bale. That's
were the boom broke in two. The aft bale used
to be right there and the boom broke where it
was weakened by the (4) screws that held the bale
to the boom.

S.Simon - the one and only


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Neal, could you please take a photo showing us the repair area of the boom. I
don't believe you EVER made a repair. Had you done so, you would never have
allowed a bend to remain.
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to repair a broken spar at the expense
of far greater weight when you could have easily replaced it with a proper one.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

It appears that the boom is bent at the forward bail, or just forward of that. How far
does the pipe extend? Are you now at risk of snapping the boom again?



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


You can see the repair in the following photo:

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/Closehaul2.jpg

See the lighter line forward of the aft bale. That's
were the boom broke in two. The aft bale used
to be right there and the boom broke where it
was weakened by the (4) screws that held the bale
to the boom.

S.Simon - the one and only


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Neal, could you please take a photo showing us the repair area of the boom. I
don't believe you EVER made a repair. Had you done so, you would never have
allowed a bend to remain.
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to repair a broken spar at the expense
of far greater weight when you could have easily replaced it with a proper one.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

It appears that the boom is bent at the forward bail, or just forward of that.
How far
does the pipe extend? Are you now at risk of snapping the boom again?

That pic shows little more than the bend itself. There is no "repair."

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

The pipes were about five feet long. So they are extending
about 2-1/2 feet on either side of the break. Not to worry,
it's been over 12 years since the repair and it's working
just fine. The boom always did bend when the sheet is
tightened down even before the repair. If I want to take
the bend out and make the boom really strong I can fit
a short strut in the middle near the break and fit a length
of rigging wire to each end of the boom underneath and
tighten the wire with a turnbuckle. I don't think this necessary,
however.

S.Simon - a Captain who's serious about sailing

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
It appears that the boom is bent at the forward bail, or just forward of that. How far
does the pipe extend? Are you now at risk of snapping the boom again?



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


You can see the repair in the following photo:

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/Closehaul2.jpg

See the lighter line forward of the aft bale. That's
were the boom broke in two. The aft bale used
to be right there and the boom broke where it
was weakened by the (4) screws that held the bale
to the boom.

S.Simon - the one and only


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Neal, could you please take a photo showing us the repair area of the boom. I
don't believe you EVER made a repair. Had you done so, you would never have
allowed a bend to remain.
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to repair a broken spar at the expense
of far greater weight when you could have easily replaced it with a proper one.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
It appears that the boom is bent at the forward bail, or just forward of that.
How far
does the pipe extend? Are you now at risk of snapping the boom again?

That pic shows little more than the bend itself. There is no "repair."


Bet me! I've got some of those little round magnets that come
in the bottom of a shower curtain that I could put on the aluminum
boom. If they stick it means there's iron inside.

Put up a hundred bucks and I'll go to the trouble of taking a
picture or two of the magnets on the aluminum boom.

Waiting to hear how you try to weasel out of this one. . .

S.Simon - Bobsprit's mentor

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

If I want to take
the bend out and make the boom really strong I can fit
a short strut in the middle near the break and fit a length

This is getting worse by the second. "Really strong?" I thought it was already
really strong...guess not.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

The boom always did bend when the sheet is
tightened down even before the repair.

Holy christ.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Put up a hundred bucks and I'll go to the trouble of taking a
picture or two of the magnets on the aluminum boom.

Oh my. Like I said, there's no repair. You didn't repair it so would look like
a bent noodle, dopey.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

So, you're admitting you're too chicken to bet?

S.Simon Booby's nemisis

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Put up a hundred bucks and I'll go to the trouble of taking a
picture or two of the magnets on the aluminum boom.

Oh my. Like I said, there's no repair. You didn't repair it so would look like
a bent noodle, dopey.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

So that reminds me - Do you need a special Deviation Table for the boom angle?



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It appears that the boom is bent at the forward bail, or just forward of that.
How far
does the pipe extend? Are you now at risk of snapping the boom again?

That pic shows little more than the bend itself. There is no "repair."


Bet me! I've got some of those little round magnets that come
in the bottom of a shower curtain that I could put on the aluminum
boom. If they stick it means there's iron inside.

Put up a hundred bucks and I'll go to the trouble of taking a
picture or two of the magnets on the aluminum boom.

Waiting to hear how you try to weasel out of this one. . .

S.Simon - Bobsprit's mentor

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Good Question Jeff,

I wonder if Deivation changes from Port to Starboard tacks?

OR; You could leave the cover on the Compass, like Nutsy does, and not
pay any attention to it

Ole Thom

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

OR; You could leave the cover on the Compass, like Nutsy does, and not
pay any attention to it

I've used epoxy to glue the cover down, extending the life of the unit by 50%.

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
OR; You could leave the cover on the Compass, like Nutsy does, and not
pay any attention to it

I've used epoxy to glue the cover down, extending the life of the unit by
50%.

..... while reducing your cruising range by a mere 2 miles!


Regards


Donal
--

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Sure you do, Nutsy,

Who give a **** about deviation. Long Island is south, Conn. is north.
Sun come up East of Throgs Neck Bridge and goes down in New York City
(West) Who need a compass where you sail? Cover it up.
You can always get your lies from the Cruising Guide.

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Jeff Morris wrote:
So that reminds me - Do you need a special Deviation Table for the
boom angle?


Nah. Since he doesn't rely on paper charts and magnetic compasses he has no
need of deviation tables anymore.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

That's rather harsh Thom!! You were certainly willing to congratulate him
on his trip and report before.... why the sudden change of heart?

You seem to forget that what's important here is that Bob went out sailing
and had a good time. Isn't that what it's all about?

Do you really believe he made it all up??

CM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
| Sure you do, Nutsy,
|
| Who give a **** about deviation. Long Island is south, Conn. is north.
| Sun come up East of Throgs Neck Bridge and goes down in New York City
| (West) Who need a compass where you sail? Cover it up.
| You can always get your lies from the Cruising Guide.
|

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

CM,

Who knows!! I'm just know I'm getting damn sick of all these going on
for ever, boring troll by people that really think they a clever.

Some times you just have to strike back and show that anybody can be
made a victim in their own mind with their lies. Sometimes you just have
to make them feel the way they want to make others feel

Haven't you noticed how when Nutsy get on the receiving end he stops
responding and starts new trolls to drive the trolls he isn't happy into
the back pages?

The "Bent Boom" doesn't interest him any more since it contains Step
ladder sterns.
Magic Boat is about to lose his interest. It lost mine with the original
post but without getting on his case he will make us all wade thru papes
of his boring lies.

He's good at trolling but he isn't as clever as he rates himself AND he
has a great big pair of Rabbit Ears

No CM, I consider Nutsy a friend. He knows it, but some of these trolls
are no better than the crap that Bertie and his puppets put out.
BBOORRIINNGG!!!!

Ole Thom

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

No CM, I consider Nutsy a friend. He knows it, but some of these trolls
are no better than the crap that Bertie and his puppets put out.
BBOORRIINNGG!!!!

Do you think that asa would be better off without him?

Personally, I find that the corrections to his stupid claims can be
educational.


When I started posting here, a few years ago, I found it difficult to
imagine what the sailing conditions were like for all the other posters. I
couldn't imagine a cruising area that had less than 4m tidal ranges, .. and
I assumed that everybody has to deal with 12m (39 ft) tides, and 7-10kt
currents, on a regular basis. Since then, I've learned a lot.

Bobsprit's posts get people talking.

I've learned a lot from the discussions that follow Bobsprit's "sailing"
photos. At first, I was amazed at the way people could tell that the engine
was on,... or that they could tell that the Jenny was furled up when only
the aft section of the boat was in view. As time went on, I learned to spot
some of the deficiencies in his posts.

All of these things may seem trivial to you. They are still "discoveries"
to me. I don't mind how stupid Bob appears to be, if it helps me to learn!
Equally, I'm fairly sure that Bob does'nt take any offence at anything that
I write.

As the Father of the group, you need to have a little patience with the
kids noisy arguments.



Regards


Donal
--

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

"Donal" wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
No CM, I consider Nutsy a friend. He knows it, but some of these
trolls
are no better than the crap that Bertie and his puppets put out.
BBOORRIINNGG!!!!

Do you think that asa would be better off without him?

Who are you talking about, Bertie or Nutsy?

Personally, I find that the corrections to his stupid claims can be
educational.

Depends on the answer above.

As the Father of the group, you need to have a little patience with
the
kids noisy arguments.

You are a window of wisdom, Donal!

LP

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
No CM, I consider Nutsy a friend. He knows it, but some of these
trolls
are no better than the crap that Bertie and his puppets put out.
BBOORRIINNGG!!!!

Do you think that asa would be better off without him?

Who are you talking about, Bertie or Nutsy?


Nutsy! Sorry about the confusion.


Kissy, kissy


Donal
--

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

No Donal,

I don't want him to leave and I don't care if he does. I would like it
if he would grow up! He is like a child demanding all the attention. If
it takes a lie to do it, that's the tool he'll use. He doesn't care if
it's praise or damnation as long as he is involved.

He does make me tired. Like any poorly adjusted child that can't be
ignored you have to scold him. I don't think it does him any good but it
does help my frustration.

He and I go back a very long way. Just about to the beginning, when he
had "Yoda" Every once in awhile he needs a slap along side the head. It
doesn't do him any good but it helps me AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Who give a **** about deviation. Long Island is south, Conn. is north.
Sun come up East of Throgs Neck Bridge and goes down in New York City
(West) Who need a compass where you sail? Cover it up.
You can always get your lies from the Cruising Guide.

Yeah...and it's filled with pics of my exact boat at various ports of call!

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Some times you just have to strike back and show that anybody can be
made a victim in their own mind with their lies.

Let us know when you start!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

I don't want him to leave and I don't care if he does. I would like it
if he would grow up! He is like a child demanding all the attention.

Am not!!!!!

RB

Bent Boom never Fixed
 

Mohammed Ali invented the "rope-a-dope".

Bobsprit invented the "dock-a-dope".

Booby won't go away because "away" means
away from his dock and he's too chicken to ever do
that for more than an afternoon or day at a time.

Dock = Mama!

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
No Donal,

I don't want him to leave and I don't care if he does. I would like it
if he would grow up! He is like a child demanding all the attention. If
it takes a lie to do it, that's the tool he'll use. He doesn't care if
it's praise or damnation as long as he is involved.

He does make me tired. Like any poorly adjusted child that can't be
ignored you have to scold him. I don't think it does him any good but it
does help my frustration.

He and I go back a very long way. Just about to the beginning, when he
had "Yoda" Every once in awhile he needs a slap along side the head. It
doesn't do him any good but it helps me AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom