RB,

I'm sure you screwed yourself once again.
A J24 racing in class with full crew (or without) isn't going to be
using a furler. Bob, A flying sail change cannot be made with a furler
and Class Racers do have to be able to change out head sail as
conditions warrant.

They do use twin head tracks but a furler has the upper assembly that
prohibits the changing a sail while the other sail is up.

Changing head sails in class racing doesn't make since to be bald headed
for a head sail change.

You're going to have to modify your statement about a racing J24.

Sorry, Nutsy. You had your mouth going without the brain in gear.

Ole Thom

I'm sure you screwed yourself once again.
A J24 racing in class with full crew (or without) isn't going to be
using a furler.

Uh, Thom. I think you misread something. I'm not racing on the J-24, nor have I
EVER seen one with a RF installed.

RB

Nutsy,

Your post @ 9/1/03 said the J24 I'm sailing Thursday prodably has RF. If
you've never seen one installed then why in the hell would you make a
statement like that?

So now, is this the time for the stupid modifying troll replies? If it
is, don't bother on my account, I won't be reading your replies for
awhile.
AND; "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

OT

Thing is Billy, the notes he was taking were so he'd remember your
comments.

Don't forget, Ozzy...Billy Jane sails a serious racing machine...the C&C 27.

RB

I'm beginning to get it now.
You do ring your sailmaker and get him to come down and go for a sail
in a variety of conditions so he can see jus how you sail and design a
nice set of cruising sails tailored to your particular way of sailing.
He makes all the right noises, drinks your beer, makes a few notes,
accepts your offer to dinner, then delivers the sails in a couple of
weeks.
Of course he goes for a sail, drinks your beers, makes some more
notes, accepts your offer to dinner and humbly accepts your praise on
how well the sails suit your boat and driving style.

Thing is Billy, the notes he was taking were so he'd remember your
comments.
He didn't want to forget one single word you said when he gets back to
the loft and the whole bunch sit around laughing their heads off at
the sucker they just reeled in!!!
Then they'll get back to the computer and bring up the templates for
the next set of "custom" sails, lay the cloth out on the table, turn
on the air and watch the plotter mark it up.

I made my sailmaker come down to my boat three times and we had many phone
calls and emails to go over details. He measured my rig completely and we
discussed the type of sailing I do. When the sails were done he fitted them
and had to take them back because the reefing pulls were on the wrong side for
the Dutchman. We went over the ways in which my sails differed from the stock
sails delivered on an IP, a dedicated cruising boat. Details in a cruising
sail matter also, and you gotta make sure you get what you want.

We went over the ways in which my sails differed from the stock
sails delivered on an IP, a dedicated cruising boat. Details in a cruising
sail matter also, and you gotta make sure you get what you want.

Skitch, most sailmakers will come down to a boat if the owner wants, but the
"norm" is computer template sails for most. Sailing is dominated by Catalinas,
hunters and other popular boats that rarely get a visit from a loft. Ask Mark
at Doyle or Bill and UK how many boats he visits. They couldn't make money
unless they had a giant cut-and-ship business.

RB

Don't forget, Ozzy...Billy Jane sails a serious racing machine...the C&C 27.

RB

Maybe his sailmaker build big baggy sails so Billy can reach all those
downwind ports quickly.

I could save Billy Jane a small fortune on sails, but then what would he do
with them?

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| We went over the ways in which my sails differed from the stock
| sails delivered on an IP, a dedicated cruising boat. Details in a
cruising
| sail matter also, and you gotta make sure you get what you want.
|
| Skitch, most sailmakers will come down to a boat if the owner wants, but
the
| "norm" is computer template sails for most. Sailing is dominated by
Catalinas,
| hunters and other popular boats that rarely get a visit from a loft. Ask
Mark
| at Doyle or Bill and UK how many boats he visits. They couldn't make money
| unless they had a giant cut-and-ship business.

Now ain't that odd. I ordered an off the shelf with 3 reef points. They said
they had the template and I confirmed the measurements via fax. I sent the
sail back 3 times. The loft finally flew a rep up from Vancouver to
Yellowknife and found out their measurements were not correct. I did feel
sorry for the guy and arranged for him to meet some other people who were
considering buying new sails. He measured and discussed their specifics with
them and returned with orders for a few other sails. Mine arrived again and
fit. They decided to send a rep up every year after that.

CM