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Simple Simon August 24th 03 12:43 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Dear Pitiful Group,

The Bay looks like a mirror again this morning as it was
yesterday and the day before and the day before that. It
looks like southern Florida is doomed to a summer of
doldrums this year.

Even the tropical depressions fall apart as they head this
way. It's disgusting! The only good thing is these periods
of light wind and no wind tend to be evened out by periods
of moderate to heavy winds. I'm hoping for some good
reliable winds this fall as I'm weighing for another extended
cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season (Nov).

While most of you sorry losers are abandoning your boats
on the hard for another long, cold winter with bouts of colds
and flu, I'll be sailing the Bahamas once more enjoying the
sunshine, balmy breezes, crystal water, good company
(real sailors - unlike what passes for sailors in this group),
excellent fare and good cheer.

I've so simplified my life that I have only a dentist appointment
in September (routine cleaning - my teeth are perfect like the
rest of me) to occupy my time. This and I must do the paper
work to renew my Master's license which involves a physical
exam and a little pencil pushing. The only other chore on the
list is hauling and renewing the bottom paint. No sweat. I
think I'll even put off getting new working sails so I can
check out a Bahamas loft or two. Sails might be reasonable
over there since the labor is cheaper. There's still years of
life left in my present sails in spite of what a bunch of arm-
chair losers on this group say.

Ah, life is good.

That's enough about me for now. I don't wanna make too
many of you lubbers envious or too many women salivate.

Ta,
S.Simon








Scout August 24th 03 12:58 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
SS,
What do you do while the hurricanes are a-blowin'?
Scout


"Simple Simon" wrote
extended cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season (Nov).




James August 24th 03 03:37 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Why write this?
Whats this really about?
what do you need that drives you to post this stuff?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Dear Pitiful Group,

The Bay looks like a mirror again this morning as it was
yesterday and the day before and the day before that. It
looks like southern Florida is doomed to a summer of
doldrums this year.

Even the tropical depressions fall apart as they head this
way. It's disgusting! The only good thing is these periods
of light wind and no wind tend to be evened out by periods
of moderate to heavy winds. I'm hoping for some good
reliable winds this fall as I'm weighing for another extended
cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season (Nov).

While most of you sorry losers are abandoning your boats
on the hard for another long, cold winter with bouts of colds
and flu, I'll be sailing the Bahamas once more enjoying the
sunshine, balmy breezes, crystal water, good company
(real sailors - unlike what passes for sailors in this group),
excellent fare and good cheer.

I've so simplified my life that I have only a dentist appointment
in September (routine cleaning - my teeth are perfect like the
rest of me) to occupy my time. This and I must do the paper
work to renew my Master's license which involves a physical
exam and a little pencil pushing. The only other chore on the
list is hauling and renewing the bottom paint. No sweat. I
think I'll even put off getting new working sails so I can
check out a Bahamas loft or two. Sails might be reasonable
over there since the labor is cheaper. There's still years of
life left in my present sails in spite of what a bunch of arm-
chair losers on this group say.

Ah, life is good.

That's enough about me for now. I don't wanna make too
many of you lubbers envious or too many women salivate.

Ta,
S.Simon










katysails August 24th 03 06:01 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=3Dfree! =
And while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of =
the sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a =
very pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just =
ambled about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with =
a really bad forecast with fronts reversing...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Scout August 24th 03 07:16 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Thanks TW, I must've missed that one.
I'm just wondering where the heck he could go, and quickly enough, to escape
the big ones.
Scout


"two wheels" wrote in message
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SS,
What do you do while the hurricanes are a-blowin'?
Scout


"Simple Simon" wrote
extended cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season

(Nov).


I think he's mentioned before, that he just sails to where they're
not a-blowing--or not as hard anyway.

two wheels


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Scout August 24th 03 07:48 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
have I mentioned my Viking roots?
Scout


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm tropical
breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea that
is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by

excess
clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle

and
hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not

dares
you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse off
the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the

cockpit
for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no

sweat,
| not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both

taste
| better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm sleeping
bag,
| etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| Scout
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
| Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=free!

And
| while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of the
| sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a very
| pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just ambled
| about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a

really
| bad forecast with fronts reversing...
|
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|





Jonathan Ganz August 24th 03 07:53 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
If you have to ask, you'll never know.

"James" wrote in message
...
Why write this?
Whats this really about?
what do you need that drives you to post this stuff?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Dear Pitiful Group,

The Bay looks like a mirror again this morning as it was
yesterday and the day before and the day before that. It
looks like southern Florida is doomed to a summer of
doldrums this year.

Even the tropical depressions fall apart as they head this
way. It's disgusting! The only good thing is these periods
of light wind and no wind tend to be evened out by periods
of moderate to heavy winds. I'm hoping for some good
reliable winds this fall as I'm weighing for another extended
cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season (Nov).

While most of you sorry losers are abandoning your boats
on the hard for another long, cold winter with bouts of colds
and flu, I'll be sailing the Bahamas once more enjoying the
sunshine, balmy breezes, crystal water, good company
(real sailors - unlike what passes for sailors in this group),
excellent fare and good cheer.

I've so simplified my life that I have only a dentist appointment
in September (routine cleaning - my teeth are perfect like the
rest of me) to occupy my time. This and I must do the paper
work to renew my Master's license which involves a physical
exam and a little pencil pushing. The only other chore on the
list is hauling and renewing the bottom paint. No sweat. I
think I'll even put off getting new working sails so I can
check out a Bahamas loft or two. Sails might be reasonable
over there since the labor is cheaper. There's still years of
life left in my present sails in spite of what a bunch of arm-
chair losers on this group say.

Ah, life is good.

That's enough about me for now. I don't wanna make too
many of you lubbers envious or too many women salivate.

Ta,
S.Simon












Capt. Mooron August 24th 03 09:04 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
.... that's obvious... most Scots had a little Viking in them back then...
weather by choice or insistence.
Have I mentioned I'm Belgian?

CM



"Scout" wrote in message
...
| have I mentioned my Viking roots?
| Scout
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
| more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm
tropical
| breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea
that
| is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by
| excess
| clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle
| and
| hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not
| dares
| you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse
off
| the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the
| cockpit
| for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
| drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
| springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no
| sweat,
| | not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both
| taste
| | better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm
sleeping
| bag,
| | etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| | Scout
| |
| |
| | "katysails" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=free!
| And
| | while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of
the
| | sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a very
| | pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just
ambled
| | about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a
| really
| | bad forecast with fronts reversing...
| |
| | --
| | katysails
| | s/v Chanteuse
| | Kirie Elite 32
| | http://katysails.tripod.com
| |
| | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
| | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| |
| |
|
|
|
|



Scout August 24th 03 10:14 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Great grandmom said it was insistence, but she lied a lot, that's what
everyone liked about her!

Belgian? No, I did not know that!
Scout


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
... that's obvious... most Scots had a little Viking in them back then...
weather by choice or insistence.
Have I mentioned I'm Belgian?

CM



"Scout" wrote in message
...
| have I mentioned my Viking roots?
| Scout
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing

being
| more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm
tropical
| breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea
that
| is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by
| excess
| clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes

crackle
| and
| hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not
| dares
| you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse
off
| the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the
| cockpit
| for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on

shore
| drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
| springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no
| sweat,
| | not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both
| taste
| | better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm
sleeping
| bag,
| | etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| | Scout
| |
| |
| | "katysails" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again

Neal=free!
| And
| | while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of
the
| | sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a

very
| | pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just
ambled
| | about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a
| really
| | bad forecast with fronts reversing...
| |
| | --
| | katysails
| | s/v Chanteuse
| | Kirie Elite 32
| | http://katysails.tripod.com
| |
| | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
| | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| |
| |
|
|
|
|





Simple Simon August 24th 03 10:41 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 


RIGHT ON!


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
If you have to ask, you'll never know.

"James" wrote in message
...
Why write this?
Whats this really about?
what do you need that drives you to post this stuff?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Dear Pitiful Group,

The Bay looks like a mirror again this morning as it was
yesterday and the day before and the day before that. It
looks like southern Florida is doomed to a summer of
doldrums this year.

Even the tropical depressions fall apart as they head this
way. It's disgusting! The only good thing is these periods
of light wind and no wind tend to be evened out by periods
of moderate to heavy winds. I'm hoping for some good
reliable winds this fall as I'm weighing for another extended
cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season (Nov).

While most of you sorry losers are abandoning your boats
on the hard for another long, cold winter with bouts of colds
and flu, I'll be sailing the Bahamas once more enjoying the
sunshine, balmy breezes, crystal water, good company
(real sailors - unlike what passes for sailors in this group),
excellent fare and good cheer.

I've so simplified my life that I have only a dentist appointment
in September (routine cleaning - my teeth are perfect like the
rest of me) to occupy my time. This and I must do the paper
work to renew my Master's license which involves a physical
exam and a little pencil pushing. The only other chore on the
list is hauling and renewing the bottom paint. No sweat. I
think I'll even put off getting new working sails so I can
check out a Bahamas loft or two. Sails might be reasonable
over there since the labor is cheaper. There's still years of
life left in my present sails in spite of what a bunch of arm-
chair losers on this group say.

Ah, life is good.

That's enough about me for now. I don't wanna make too
many of you lubbers envious or too many women salivate.

Ta,
S.Simon














katysails August 24th 03 10:48 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
I doubt envy is the first thing that
springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.

Having been both places and sailed both places, I will say this: If one =
could get rid of winter and keep the sailing weather we have may through =
October to the whole year, then that would be the perfect sailing =
climate. The sub-tropics are nice to visit, but the cloying, =
unrelenting heat get to you after a while and the bug factor can't be =
ignored. And then, if we had the luxury of a 12 month season here, we =
would have perfection...no unsightly barnacles eating away at our hulls, =
no corrosive salt wearing out sails and canvas...no predatory fish =
looking for a meal to jump off the boat any moment...and we don't have =
to fight tide tables up here, so don't have to schedule our comings and =
goings around them. (Don't you have horribly huge tides up there in =
N.S.?) September and October sailing are always the best on Lake =
Michigan. The days are warm and the nights are cool. You can always =
put on another layer if you're not the hearty type.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Simple Simon August 24th 03 11:02 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Having been both places and sailed both places, I will say this: If one could get rid of winter and keep the sailing weather we
have may through October to the whole year, then that would be the perfect sailing climate. The sub-tropics are nice to visit,
but the cloying, unrelenting heat get to you after a while and the bug factor can't be ignored. And then, if we had the luxury
of a 12 month season here, we would have perfection...no unsightly barnacles eating away at our hulls, no corrosive salt wearing
out sails and canvas...no predatory fish looking for a meal to jump off the boat any moment...and we don't have to fight tide
tables up here, so don't have to schedule our comings and goings around them. (Don't you have horribly huge tides up there in
N.S.?) September and October sailing are always the best on Lake Michigan. The days are warm and the nights are cool. You can
always put on another layer if you're not the hearty type.

********************************

The above is the anatomy of a very lazy individual who
demands it her way.

Hey Katysails, my potential sexy soulmate, only at MacDonald's!

I could be close to heaven teaching you and you could be IN
heaven learning from me.

S.Simon.

Real sailors take it as Mother Nature dishes it out.



katysails August 24th 03 11:18 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

Real sailors take it as Mother Nature dishes it out.

That's right, they do...And that's why so few of us Northern sailors =
bitch and moan about winter when it's upon us and why all you do is =
bitch and moan when the doldrums, hurricanes, etc. are upon you. And =
just to inform you, I always insist on MY WAY....
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Simple Simon August 24th 03 11:24 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 


I love you.

"katysails" wrote in message ...

Real sailors take it as Mother Nature dishes it out.

That's right, they do...And that's why so few of us Northern sailors bitch and moan about winter when it's upon us and why all
you do is bitch and moan when the doldrums, hurricanes, etc. are upon you. And just to inform you, I always insist on MY
WAY....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Capt. Mooron August 24th 03 11:27 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
I've sailed above the Arctic Circle and below the Equator. I can handle both
extremes. I don't concern myself with other predator species other than to
afford them mutual respect. The insects up North are twice as large, 4 times
as voracious and 8 times more plentiful in the summer than their tiny and
far less annoying Southern cousins.

Hull fouling is not restricted to warm waters... neither is corrosion in
salt water. Lake sailing has it's merits and restrictions. Tides are not a
difficulty... where I am the average is 5 to 7 feet and in the Bay of Fundy
they are 45 feet.

Although I can enjoy where I sail now... I revel in the heat, sun and warm
waters of the tropics.

CM





"katysails" wrote in message

Having been both places and sailed both places, I will say this: If one
could get rid of winter and keep the sailing weather we have may through
October to the whole year, then that would be the perfect sailing climate.
The sub-tropics are nice to visit, but the cloying, unrelenting heat get to
you after a while and the bug factor can't be ignored. And then, if we had
the luxury of a 12 month season here, we would have perfection...no
unsightly barnacles eating away at our hulls, no corrosive salt wearing out
sails and canvas...no predatory fish looking for a meal to jump off the boat
any moment...and we don't have to fight tide tables up here, so don't have
to schedule our comings and goings around them. (Don't you have horribly
huge tides up there in N.S.?) September and October sailing are always the
best on Lake Michigan. The days are warm and the nights are cool. You can
always put on another layer if you're not the hearty type.




Peter Wiley August 25th 03 01:22 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Sorry, Mooron, have to disagree. You forgot to mention the sandflies,
the mosquitoes carrying malaria, the cockroaches big enough to rest
your beer can on, the sticky heat and high humidity day after day
after day with a hot bright white sun beating down and heating
everything so hot that you can see the heat shimmer and get cooked
from the deck alone. You forgot to mention the gallons of sunblock you
need to keep from being fried. You forgot to mention the annoyance of
having to run engines or gensets to keep stuff cool, and the annoying
neighbours who do the same thing.

The tropics are OK for a short holiday on a charter boat, preferably
with aircon, but for living/cruising? Nah. Give me cool climates
where you can snuggle up with someone at anchor after a busy day, and
not melt down in a pool of mutual sweat, skin peeling stickily from
skin......

I like cool climates. Where I live now is just about perfect from my
POV.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:25:25 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm tropical
breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea that
is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by excess
clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle and
hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not dares
you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse off
the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the cockpit
for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no sweat,
| not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both taste
| better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm sleeping
bag,
| etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| Scout
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
| Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=free! And
| while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of the
| sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a very
| pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just ambled
| about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a really
| bad forecast with fronts reversing...
|
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|



Capt. Mooron August 25th 03 01:57 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Sandflies... Bah! Tropical Mosquitos??? you have to invite them to lunch.
The ones up North land at the airport, hunt you down and consider Deet as a
BBQ sauce. I'm immune to malaria since I was born a carrier.
Blood thickened by a cold weather environment, thins in a few months in the
tropics. The heat becomes a non issue as easily as the cold.

The water though... that warm inviting tropical ocean. The absolute verdant,
lush plant growth, the fruit and exotic vegetables. I'll also include the
price of Rum and Beer is easily affordable. I can't find a thing wrong with
the premise that formal dress is when you decide to wear flip flops.

20 years of 3 month sailing seasons and 9 month winters that drop
temperatures to minus 40's bracketed by 2 days of Spring and 2 days of
Autumn.... your preference for moderation falls upon deaf ears. I've
engaged my fair share of mid summer sailing at 10 degrees. It's not
something that wears well under extended periods. I prefer the option of a
global migration as and when required. Temperate climes for Temperate
people... I enjoy the extremes.

Capt. Mooron
"Spawned in the Hot Humid Jungles of the Congo.... Forged in the Rugged
North Atlantic... and Tempered by the Cold Artic Ice"




"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
...
| Sorry, Mooron, have to disagree. You forgot to mention the sandflies,
| the mosquitoes carrying malaria, the cockroaches big enough to rest
| your beer can on, the sticky heat and high humidity day after day
| after day with a hot bright white sun beating down and heating
| everything so hot that you can see the heat shimmer and get cooked
| from the deck alone. You forgot to mention the gallons of sunblock you
| need to keep from being fried. You forgot to mention the annoyance of
| having to run engines or gensets to keep stuff cool, and the annoying
| neighbours who do the same thing.
|
| The tropics are OK for a short holiday on a charter boat, preferably
| with aircon, but for living/cruising? Nah. Give me cool climates
| where you can snuggle up with someone at anchor after a busy day, and
| not melt down in a pool of mutual sweat, skin peeling stickily from
| skin......
|
| I like cool climates. Where I live now is just about perfect from my
| POV.
|
| On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:25:25 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
| more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm tropical
| breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea
that
| is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by
excess
| clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle
and
| hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not
dares
| you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse off
| the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the
cockpit
| for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
| drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
| springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no
sweat,
| | not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both
taste
| | better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm sleeping
| bag,
| | etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| | Scout
| |
| |
| | "katysails" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=free!
And
| | while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of the
| | sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a very
| | pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just
ambled
| | about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a
really
| | bad forecast with fronts reversing...
| |
| | --
| | katysails
| | s/v Chanteuse
| | Kirie Elite 32
| | http://katysails.tripod.com
| |
| | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| |
| |
|
|



Capt. Mooron August 25th 03 02:45 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
I doubt you'll find your little Scottish Midge 20 degrees North of the 65th
Parallel... and you haven't encountered the Black Fly if you think your
pathetic Midge is even in the running let alone a contender..... so stick
that in your Bagpipe!

CM

"Wally" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:z9d2b.61411
|
| Sandflies... Bah! Tropical Mosquitos??? you have to invite them to
| lunch.
| The ones up North land at the airport, hunt you down and consider Deet
as
| a
| BBQ sauce.
|
| Holy snack jockeys on a diet, Batman!
|
| Get yourself another 20deg north and try the grand daddy of them all - no
| net has a mesh small enough to stop the dreaded Scottish midge, yet it can
| deflesh a Highland cow inside a minute.
|
|
| --
| Wally
| I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
| www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
|
|
|



Peter Wiley August 25th 03 02:46 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Yeah.... got to. Amazing how fast you can get fried on the ice, esp
when the humidity is waay down so your skin dries out fast too.

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:01:51 +1000, The Captains Master wrote:

Hey Pete, that hole in the ozone is down there, you use sunblock?

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:22:52 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

Sorry, Mooron, have to disagree. You forgot to mention the sandflies,
the mosquitoes carrying malaria, the cockroaches big enough to rest
your beer can on, the sticky heat and high humidity day after day
after day with a hot bright white sun beating down and heating
everything so hot that you can see the heat shimmer and get cooked
from the deck alone. You forgot to mention the gallons of sunblock you
need to keep from being fried. You forgot to mention the annoyance of
having to run engines or gensets to keep stuff cool, and the annoying
neighbours who do the same thing.

The tropics are OK for a short holiday on a charter boat, preferably
with aircon, but for living/cruising? Nah. Give me cool climates
where you can snuggle up with someone at anchor after a busy day, and
not melt down in a pool of mutual sweat, skin peeling stickily from
skin......

I like cool climates. Where I live now is just about perfect from my
POV.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:25:25 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm tropical
breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea that
is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by excess
clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle and
hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not dares
you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse off
the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the cockpit
for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no sweat,
| not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both taste
| better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm sleeping
bag,
| etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| Scout
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
| Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=free! And
| while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of the
| sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a very
| pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just ambled
| about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a really
| bad forecast with fronts reversing...
|
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
|
http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|




Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Wally August 25th 03 02:54 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XSd2b.61428

I doubt you'll find your little Scottish Midge 20 degrees North of the

65th
Parallel... and you haven't encountered the Black Fly if you think your
pathetic Midge is even in the running let alone a contender..... so

stick
that in your Bagpipe!


My inability to do sums is irreleveant here. Even without calculating the
relative masses of Midges and Black Fly, size is known to be (inversely
proprtional to) everything. Anyway, bagpipes are no use - they'd just make
their way up the chanter and eat you alive from the inside out. The only
creature that can withstand the Midge is a fit, healthy haggis.


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




katysails August 25th 03 03:03 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Is there NO cold water in Florida!?!?!?!!? Please, someone send Neal a =
bucket of ice.....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


The Carrolls August 25th 03 03:07 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
So you have trouble making your boat move in light wind? Any one can make a
sailboat move in a blow, light wind is what sets good sailors apart.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Dear Pitiful Group,

The Bay looks like a mirror again this morning as it was
yesterday and the day before and the day before that. It
looks like southern Florida is doomed to a summer of
doldrums this year.

Even the tropical depressions fall apart as they head this
way. It's disgusting! The only good thing is these periods
of light wind and no wind tend to be evened out by periods
of moderate to heavy winds. I'm hoping for some good
reliable winds this fall as I'm weighing for another extended
cruise to the Bahamas at the end of hurricane season (Nov).

While most of you sorry losers are abandoning your boats
on the hard for another long, cold winter with bouts of colds
and flu, I'll be sailing the Bahamas once more enjoying the
sunshine, balmy breezes, crystal water, good company
(real sailors - unlike what passes for sailors in this group),
excellent fare and good cheer.

I've so simplified my life that I have only a dentist appointment
in September (routine cleaning - my teeth are perfect like the
rest of me) to occupy my time. This and I must do the paper
work to renew my Master's license which involves a physical
exam and a little pencil pushing. The only other chore on the
list is hauling and renewing the bottom paint. No sweat. I
think I'll even put off getting new working sails so I can
check out a Bahamas loft or two. Sails might be reasonable
over there since the labor is cheaper. There's still years of
life left in my present sails in spite of what a bunch of arm-
chair losers on this group say.

Ah, life is good.

That's enough about me for now. I don't wanna make too
many of you lubbers envious or too many women salivate.

Ta,
S.Simon










katysails August 25th 03 03:11 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
the Black Fly=20

We have those...nasty critters...if you kill one on your boat 1, 00,000 =
more come to the funeral....only the funeral is yours....They are not =
deterred by any kind of fly spray...only recourse is to get a bottle of =
water with a lot of Palmolive dish s soap in it and spray them...weighs =
them down and makes them stick to the deck where you can squash them =
(usually full of somebody's blood) The Palmolive then allows you to =
conveniently and quickly wash away the remains.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Peter Wiley August 25th 03 03:18 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Don't give me that BS about heat & cold :-) I've done both, including
running boundary fence and digging postholes with a crowbar & shovel
in summer when the air temp is still over 42C at midnight and the sun
glare is so bright that it crisps your eyeballs through sunglasses.
You couldn't drink beer fast enough to keep up with the fluid loss. We
used to budget on a case of beer a person a day on that job. Real
beer, too, not that wussy American stuff.

I think the difference is how far north/south we're talking about.
Here I'm in the temperate zone, sailing is a 365 day possibility and
the winters rarely get below 0C and then not for more than a day or
so. It never gets really cold ( 0C is a pleasant brisk day far as I'm
concerned), sandflies are around only a few months and then generally
only a couple hours around dawn/dusk. Ditto mosquitoes. Long warm
summers with lingering twilights. Further south the summer is too
brief, but there's no land anyway except for South America and a few
islands.

I used to work in the tropics. Diving was wonderful, 25C water and 28C
air temps in the dry season. 60m viz and wonderfully brilliant colours
everywhere. Unlike Bob****, I'm not afraid of sharks etc (wary,
though). I've never dived in the colder waters since doing the
tropics. However, the Wet was like living in a hot wet blanket
relieved only by the afternoon tropical deluges. I used to walk in the
warm rain with mud splashing up my bare legs and the unpaved streets
of Honiara running like rivers, on my way to the yacht club after
work. That was good, but living where everything smelt of mildew for
months and clothes grew fungus in front of your eyes was annoying.

About the perfect condns here would be to spend the winter swanning
about on the Barrier Reef and into the nearby islands, then head back
south for the Wet season and escape the humidity and bugs (not to
mention cyclones). For a change of pace, the Kimberley country of NW
Australia is stunningly beautiful and virtually uninhabited. Out to
Cocos Keeling.

Most of us aren't immune to malaria, or dengue fever, or a lot of
other exotic tropical diseases borne by bugs, and it's a PITA to keep
up a drug regime keeping them at bay. I prefer being where the
disease-carrying bugs aren't. Also a lot of the spots in the topics
are full of people like Neal who can't hack a more robust climate.

You don't have to freeze your butt off in NS, ya know. Once you've a
few other things squared away, sail south for a year or 2. You've got
the blue water cruiser for it which is more than most people
(including me) here have. Plenty of interesting places to see on the
way and a few odd people to drink with. You could challenge Bob**** to
a race on the way south.

As for enjoying the extremes - I'm off on my annual holiday real soon
now :-)

PDW

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:57:02 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Sandflies... Bah! Tropical Mosquitos??? you have to invite them to lunch.
The ones up North land at the airport, hunt you down and consider Deet as a
BBQ sauce. I'm immune to malaria since I was born a carrier.
Blood thickened by a cold weather environment, thins in a few months in the
tropics. The heat becomes a non issue as easily as the cold.

The water though... that warm inviting tropical ocean. The absolute verdant,
lush plant growth, the fruit and exotic vegetables. I'll also include the
price of Rum and Beer is easily affordable. I can't find a thing wrong with
the premise that formal dress is when you decide to wear flip flops.

20 years of 3 month sailing seasons and 9 month winters that drop
temperatures to minus 40's bracketed by 2 days of Spring and 2 days of
Autumn.... your preference for moderation falls upon deaf ears. I've
engaged my fair share of mid summer sailing at 10 degrees. It's not
something that wears well under extended periods. I prefer the option of a
global migration as and when required. Temperate climes for Temperate
people... I enjoy the extremes.

Capt. Mooron
"Spawned in the Hot Humid Jungles of the Congo.... Forged in the Rugged
North Atlantic... and Tempered by the Cold Artic Ice"




"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
...
| Sorry, Mooron, have to disagree. You forgot to mention the sandflies,
| the mosquitoes carrying malaria, the cockroaches big enough to rest
| your beer can on, the sticky heat and high humidity day after day
| after day with a hot bright white sun beating down and heating
| everything so hot that you can see the heat shimmer and get cooked
| from the deck alone. You forgot to mention the gallons of sunblock you
| need to keep from being fried. You forgot to mention the annoyance of
| having to run engines or gensets to keep stuff cool, and the annoying
| neighbours who do the same thing.
|
| The tropics are OK for a short holiday on a charter boat, preferably
| with aircon, but for living/cruising? Nah. Give me cool climates
| where you can snuggle up with someone at anchor after a busy day, and
| not melt down in a pool of mutual sweat, skin peeling stickily from
| skin......
|
| I like cool climates. Where I live now is just about perfect from my
| POV.
|
| On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:25:25 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
| more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm tropical
| breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea
that
| is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by
excess
| clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle
and
| hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not
dares
| you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse off
| the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the
cockpit
| for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
| drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
| springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | Amen to that Katy. I love sailing in the cold weather. no bugs, no
sweat,
| | not too many motorboats, plenty of breeze, hot meals and coffee both
taste
| | better, sleeping is more comfortable all snuggled up in a warm sleeping
| bag,
| | etc.etc.etc. Just don't fall overboard.
| | Scout
| |
| |
| | "katysails" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hooray, Hooray...By Ocotber that means we'll be once again Neal=free!
And
| | while he's been sitting down in the seweltering stink and stench of the
| | sub-tropic doldrums, we all up here have been sailing....We had a very
| | pleasant night sail alst night...wind at about 8-10 kn....we just
ambled
| | about a bit until we returned to our mooring...stormy today with a
really
| | bad forecast with fronts reversing...
| |
| | --
| | katysails
| | s/v Chanteuse
| | Kirie Elite 32
| | http://katysails.tripod.com
| |
| | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| |
| |
|
|



Seahag August 25th 03 03:25 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

katysails wrote:

Is there NO cold water in Florida!?!?!?!!? Please, someone send Neal a
bucket of ice.....


Dry ice?

Seahag





katysails August 25th 03 04:22 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Dry ice?

Seahag
Who cares what the frick kind...just send it...quick....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


two wheels August 25th 03 04:45 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
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Dry ice?

Seahag
Who cares what the frick kind...just send it...quick....


I have no idea what you have going for you Katy. I don't think I've
ever seen any pics of you posted. But as I recall, Neal's not the
first asa guy to go gaga over you. Whatever magic you have, if you
could bottle it, you'd be rich. :-)

two wheels


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Jonathan Ganz August 25th 03 06:15 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
She has everything going for her. She's a babe!

"two wheels" wrote in message
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Dry ice?

Seahag
Who cares what the frick kind...just send it...quick....


I have no idea what you have going for you Katy. I don't think I've
ever seen any pics of you posted. But as I recall, Neal's not the
first asa guy to go gaga over you. Whatever magic you have, if you
could bottle it, you'd be rich. :-)

two wheels


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Scout August 25th 03 09:01 AM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
patience MC, the Vikings are taking the long route to NZ.
Scout

"The_navigator©" wrote
Hmmmmmm. Does that include the boyz?


Capt. Mooron wrote:
most Scots had a little Viking in them back then...
weather by choice or insistence.




katysails August 25th 03 12:03 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

Whatever magic you have, if you
could bottle it, you'd be rich. :-)

If I breathed into some bottles and listed them on Ebay, do ya think?
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails August 25th 03 12:04 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
She has everything going for her. She's a babe!

You do know that those pics Neal posted were my head on Pamela =
Anderson's body?

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails August 25th 03 12:07 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

Doesn't block the breeze or the stars but sure as
heck keeps the nasties away.

You must take a picture of ths....you get the best original boat iea of =
the week...I can see Neal's boat swinging on his morring now draped in a =
mosquito tent looking like the Lost Dutchman....
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Capt. Mooron August 25th 03 02:31 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Maybe the "pretty" ones.... then again they all wore dresses and had long
hair so in the heat of battle.....

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| Hmmmmmm. Does that include the boyz?
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| most Scots had a little Viking in them back then...
| weather by choice or insistence.
|



two wheels August 25th 03 02:47 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
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Whatever magic you have, if you
could bottle it, you'd be rich. :-)

If I breathed into some bottles and listed them on Ebay, do ya

think?

No, I was thinking more along the lines of a perfume. If a fat old
broad like Elizabeth Taylor can make money selling perfume, then
anybody can.

Maybe something that smells like Lake Michigan in Summer....

I sure don't know.

two wheels


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Roamer August 25th 03 05:37 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
So you have trouble making your boat move in light wind? Any one can make

a
sailboat move in a blow, light wind is what sets good sailors apart.



Hear, hear!

--
Roamer
www.deadbean.netfirms.com
'Happiness is a 12-knot westerly on a sunny day



Jonathan Ganz August 25th 03 05:52 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Of course! Actually, I didn't see his pics.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
She has everything going for her. She's a babe!

You do know that those pics Neal posted were my head on Pamela Anderson's
body?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Capt. Mooron August 25th 03 06:55 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
I've sailed the Beaufort Sea, Hudson's Bay and British Columbia as well as
Nova Scotia.
I've also sailed the South Pacific, Caribbean and South Atlantic off Brazil.

CM

"James" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Crap!... to both of your sentiments regarding cold weather sailing being
| more comfortable than warm weather sailing. Nothing beats a warm
tropical
| breeze pressing canvas to glide your vessel over a turquoise blue sea
that
| is so transparent you can see the bottom at 60 feet. Unencumbered by
| excess
| clothing and free to enjoy the warmth of the sun while ice cubes crackle
| and
| hiss in your rum punch. At anchor the water invites you to swim... not
| dares
| you to enter. As the coolness of the evening approaches and you rinse
off
| the salt and sweat with a cool evening shower before retiring to the
| cockpit
| for a sundowner while enjoying the music of the steel drum band on shore
| drifting out to your mooring.... I doubt envy is the first thing that
| springs to mind when and if you think of sailing up north.
|
| CM
|
| One adventure is very different from another.
| Sailing the balmy smooth and welcoming waters of the world is a pleasure
| indeed... and hard to better in many respects.
| But it's not exactly a challenge.....
|
| Tossed about in the north sea... anticipating That safe harbour only two
| hours away .... as the love of your life hands you hot soup (she made soup
| after doing the nav .....she's a gem :)
|
| Goasting nevously through icebergs as the very slowly setting sun sends
| shards of crisp light through the clouds to dance on the peaks of the very
| ice that could be so deadly......Thank God that so few people brave the
cold
| .. last thing this place needs is a benetau full of jerks scattering
| MacDonalds wrappers about.
|
| And at such times as these(including the balmy tropics... Envy has no
| place..... You find yourself too busy being where you are now ...to care
who
| else is doing what somewhere else!
|
|



katysails August 25th 03 11:30 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

Maybe something that smells like Lake Michigan in Summer....

Somehow I don't think there's any marketability in "Eau de Alewife"
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Seahag August 29th 03 03:53 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 

katysails wrote:


so you're not really 90? : )
Scout
No, but I am 51...some days I feel like I'm 90....

Lay off the gin;^o

Seahag





katysails August 29th 03 06:54 PM

Too much flat calm weather lately.
 
Lay off the gin;^o

Seahag

Ya know, I haven't had one gin and tonic all this summer....have had =
some Mike's and some wine coolers, but I'm way far behind in alcohol =
consumption...maybe I should make up for it this weekend....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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