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Sailing back to the slip
Great sail today, went out for about 4 hours. Unfortunately, my batteries
were completely dead when I went to motor back into the marina. Fortunately, the wind was blowing out of the E-NE, the entrance to the marina runs east/west, was able to sail up the channel, drop the main several boat lengths before the turn into my row, coast right into the slip. Not quite the same as sailing right in, but I was getting quite a few stares as I sailed up the channel. Under the circumstances, it seemed like a good idea. Waiting for a tow in might have taken several hours, the wind was blowing in the right direction. I didn't have much time to gloat, one of my sailing neighbors was quick to point out that marina rules prohibit sailing in the marina. Good practice, though. John Cairns |
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All you have to do is hail them and tell them you're coming.
We've had to do that a couple of times when we had similar problems. The harbor master never had a problem with it. "John Cairns" wrote in message ... Great sail today, went out for about 4 hours. Unfortunately, my batteries were completely dead when I went to motor back into the marina. Fortunately, the wind was blowing out of the E-NE, the entrance to the marina runs east/west, was able to sail up the channel, drop the main several boat lengths before the turn into my row, coast right into the slip. Not quite the same as sailing right in, but I was getting quite a few stares as I sailed up the channel. Under the circumstances, it seemed like a good idea. Waiting for a tow in might have taken several hours, the wind was blowing in the right direction. I didn't have much time to gloat, one of my sailing neighbors was quick to point out that marina rules prohibit sailing in the marina. Good practice, though. John Cairns |
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one of my sailing
neighbors was quick to point out that marina rules prohibit sailing in = the marina. Probably a motorboater....there were those types at our previous marina = ( I will give it , though, that if you were in trouble and radioed in, = they would come get you rather than have Sea Tow come out). Muskegon = Yacht Club has no such rule...it's am every day occurrence since many of = the boats don't even have auxiliary engines. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"John Cairns" wrote in message ... One of my off-season projects will be the installation of a proper on-board charging system. As long as I sail out of this marina, keeping the batteries charged with the diesel will be a problem. How old are your batteries? I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years. Regards Donal -- |
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I might be missing something but with out batteries doesn't that knock
out the radio? Who do you Hail to? OT |
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I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge
difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years. Holy Godzilla farts. RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years. Holy Godzilla farts. Whassamatta now, Bob? Regards Donal -- |
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Yeah, the batteries are probably shot, they are dated '99. I have a deep
cycle battery charger and it didn't want to charge one of them before our summer cruise. I was reluctant to replace them before I install a proper onboard charger, will replace them in the off season along with installing the charging system. John Cairns "Donal" wrote in message ... "John Cairns" wrote in message ... One of my off-season projects will be the installation of a proper on-board charging system. As long as I sail out of this marina, keeping the batteries charged with the diesel will be a problem. How old are your batteries? I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years. Regards Donal -- |
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Use your handheld... you should have one as a backup.
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... I might be missing something but with out batteries doesn't that knock out the radio? Who do you Hail to? OT |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Holy Godzilla farts. Whassamatta now, Bob? Nada. Just being difficult. No, you're not! Regards Donal -- |
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It would be more impressive if you didn't have a motor, wouldn't it? What
you seem to be saying is, you have to have a motor to sail? Pathetic, especially coming from someone that claims to be a purist, as you do. John Cairns "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Hey John, You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor. You are an embarrassment to us real sailors. My motor does not need a battery to start it. If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can beet your boots I would make sure my batteries were good BEFORE trouble arose. S.Simon |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Your motor belongs on the end of a Punt.... Your motor belongs on a tractor! It's big, heavy, smelly, noisy and ugly. It fills the bilge with an oily mess. It makes the accommodation smell like a truck stop and the vibration it causes loosens up bulkeads, fittings windows etc. Your fillings probably even need work. And your boat is about big enough to be a dinghy to most of the vessels owned by folks posting here. Strang that my 'small' boat has the same LWL as your big heavy pig boat. You sail in protected flats and think a trip to friggin Bahamas from Florida equates to global cruising. I've sailed more miles on the North Atlantic than you have. I've a Masters license to prove it. Haha hah hah a hah ah ha hahahahha! You waste money on interior renovations a la Bob but your's look like it was inspired by Martha Steward on a bad acid trip. At least it doesn't smell like an oil spill like yours. You are a lubber of the worst kind. I guess you'd see an ex-lubber like me as a lubber of the worst kind since you'll never have the balls to become an ex-lubber. I'm sorry I make you feel inadequate S.Simon |
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At least I'm skilled enough to not even consider a towboat if my motor every
quit. I only use the motor for convenience - not out of necessity. If it should ever quit I would not be the least bit worried sailing up to any marina for ice and beer. I certainly would NEVER have any desire to go to a slip. Only losers keep their boats in a slip. Slips are for women and wimpy sailors. S.Simon "John Cairns" wrote in message ... It would be more impressive if you didn't have a motor, wouldn't it? What you seem to be saying is, you have to have a motor to sail? Pathetic, especially coming from someone that claims to be a purist, as you do. John Cairns "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Hey John, You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor. You are an embarrassment to us real sailors. My motor does not need a battery to start it. If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can beet your boots I would make sure my batteries were good BEFORE trouble arose. S.Simon |
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I never gave getting a tow much thought, the decision was a no brainer. In
the these parts, no one keeps their boat at a mooring, period. Couldn't tell you why, but I suspect it has something to do topography, there are no large natural harbors in these parts. Katy could probably tell you if it's true on Lake Michigan, the only place I know for certain that has moorings is Chicago, and they still charge a fee to keep a boat on a mooring. Even if I could keep a boat at a mooring, what would be the point? Since I can't walk on water, would have to motor out to the boat every time I wanted to go for a sail, which would end up taking just as much time as motoring 1000 ft. to the end of the channel, right? And I would probably have to pay someone for a spot to keep the dink, right? We can afford to pay for a slip in these parts, if this weren't true I'm sure we would have plenty of moorings. John Cairns "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... At least I'm skilled enough to not even consider a towboat if my motor every quit. I only use the motor for convenience - not out of necessity. If it should ever quit I would not be the least bit worried sailing up to any marina for ice and beer. I certainly would NEVER have any desire to go to a slip. Only losers keep their boats in a slip. Slips are for women and wimpy sailors. S.Simon "John Cairns" wrote in message ... It would be more impressive if you didn't have a motor, wouldn't it? What you seem to be saying is, you have to have a motor to sail? Pathetic, especially coming from someone that claims to be a purist, as you do. John Cairns "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Hey John, You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor. You are an embarrassment to us real sailors. My motor does not need a battery to start it. If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can beet your boots I would make sure my batteries were good BEFORE trouble arose. S.Simon |
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John said:
Katy could probably tell you if it's true on Lake Michigan, the only place I know for certain that has moorings is Chicago, and they still charge a fee to keep a boat on a mooring Lake Michigan has moorings In Lake Macatawa, Muskegon Lake, White Lake, = Pen****er, Portage Lake, private moorings in Arcadia, moorings in = Frankfurt, Little Traverse and Grand Traverse Bays, and on Beaver = Island. Some are private in front of people's homes that will rent to = you for a nominal fee, some are associated with property associations = (ours is the Bluffton Bay Association and is run by Torreson's and the = Yacht Club). There is always some kind of fee charged, but it is = nominal. We are paying $75.00/season. If we want to come in for a = night, we tie up at the courtesy dock at the Yacht Club for = $14.00/night...=20 --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... We are paying $75.00/season. If we want to come in for a night, we tie up at the courtesy dock at the Yacht Club for $14.00/night... And, that's where you spend most of your time - at the dock. Some sailor! S.Simon |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... Your rash assumptions are going to get you in real trouble one of these days. I didn't say anything about any rash. But, maybe you have West Nile?? Better go see a doc. My Voodoo is strong medicine. S.Simon |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Whassamatta now, Bob? Nada. Just being difficult. No, you're not! No, really. I am. Really, you're not! I think that Mooron is right. You're losing your edge. Regards Donal -- |
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"John Cairns" wrote in message ... Yeah, the batteries are probably shot, they are dated '99. I have a deep cycle battery charger and it didn't want to charge one of them before our summer cruise. That's what happened to me back in March. One of the batteries would go flat very quickly after being charged. The other battery wasn't great, either. With hindsight, I can see that the deterioration was gradual. Last year, if we left the fridge running overnight, then the house battery would be almost flat by the morning. With the new batteries, I can start the engine on the house battery in the morning. I was reluctant to replace them before I install a proper onboard charger, will replace them in the off season along with installing the charging system. Are you sure that your charger needs changing. I must admit that I don't know what "deep cycling" means in the context of a charger. Perhaps Bobsprit will enlighten me?? Regards Donal -- John Cairns "Donal" wrote in message ... "John Cairns" wrote in message ... One of my off-season projects will be the installation of a proper on-board charging system. As long as I sail out of this marina, keeping the batteries charged with the diesel will be a problem. How old are your batteries? I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years. Regards Donal -- |
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You're losing your
edge. I've never had an edge. I did, at one time, have a blunt end, but it's worn. RB |
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But, maybe you have West Nile??
Nope, only thing around here that has that is a dead crow here and = there....We've had a relatively mosquito=3Dless summer due to two cold = springs in a row....spiders, though, we have....I've sent you an = envelope full to your PO box #..... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... You're losing your edge. I've never had an edge. I did, at one time, have a blunt end, but it's worn. Damn! Why's my sockpuppet alarm going off? The headers look real! The content seems like a very poor imitation. Regards Donal -- |
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Damn! Why's my sockpuppet alarm going off? The headers look real! The
content seems like a very poor imitation. No, no. It's me. It's been a long few days after the blackout due to Bush. RB |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:49:19 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap: Hey John, You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor. You are an embarrassment to us real sailors. My motor does not need a battery to start it. If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can beet your boots I would make sure my batteries were good BEFORE trouble arose. Bragging about your 4.5 hp Evinrude, with the pull start? Now I've heard it all. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:19:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Use your handheld... you should have one as a backup. Better yet. Use your cellphone. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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That is not a nice way to treat house batteries. Use a starting battery
for starting and house bats. for low current draw. Cheers MC Donal wrote: "John Cairns" wrote in message ... Yeah, the batteries are probably shot, they are dated '99. I have a deep cycle battery charger and it didn't want to charge one of them before our summer cruise. That's what happened to me back in March. One of the batteries would go flat very quickly after being charged. The other battery wasn't great, either. With hindsight, I can see that the deterioration was gradual. Last year, if we left the fridge running overnight, then the house battery would be almost flat by the morning. With the new batteries, I can start the engine on the house battery in the morning. I was reluctant to replace them before I install a proper onboard charger, will replace them in the off season along with installing the charging system. Are you sure that your charger needs changing. I must admit that I don't know what "deep cycling" means in the context of a charger. Perhaps Bobsprit will enlighten me?? Regards Donal -- John Cairns "Donal" wrote in message ... "John Cairns" wrote in message ... One of my off-season projects will be the installation of a proper on-board charging system. As long as I sail out of this marina, keeping the batteries charged with the diesel will be a problem. How old are your batteries? I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years. Regards Donal -- |
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That's stupid. Other boats monitor 16, which gives them
a heads up about what is going to happen. It's a good idea to have a cell phone, but not for stuff like this. As usual, you demonstrate no understanding about sailing, boat handling, or common sense. "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:19:29 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: Use your handheld... you should have one as a backup. Better yet. Use your cellphone. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:00:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: That's stupid. Other boats monitor 16, which gives them a heads up about what is going to happen. It's a good idea to have a cell phone, but not for stuff like this. As usual, you demonstrate no understanding about sailing, boat handling, or common sense. No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else would find out, dumbass. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:45:32 -0700, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Jonathan Ganz: All you have to do is hail them and tell them you're coming. Or you could just scream "Oh God! Yes! Yes! Yes!" We've had to do that a couple of times when we had similar problems. The harbor master never had a problem with it. Is he a pjervert too? -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 |
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I doubt that seeing you being towed into the marina yet again would come as
a surprise for anyone in your club. CM "Horvath" wrote in message | No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the | yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell | phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else | would find out, dumbass. |
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Only a fool limits safety because of small embarrassment.
"Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:00:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: That's stupid. Other boats monitor 16, which gives them a heads up about what is going to happen. It's a good idea to have a cell phone, but not for stuff like this. As usual, you demonstrate no understanding about sailing, boat handling, or common sense. No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else would find out, dumbass. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:51:59 -0700 (PDT), a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Thom Stewart: I might be missing something but with out batteries doesn't that knock out the radio? Who do you Hail to? HAIL TO THE CHIEF, of course. Are you unpatriotic or something? -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 |
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Well I had a cell phone and a working vhf, didn't feel like waiting
who-knows-how-long for a tow. You could easily sail your boat up to the wall at North Cape, impress everyone, then discreetly plug into shore power, charge your batteries. We don't have a similar wall at my marina, hence, sailing most of the way(50 feet short, actually) then coasting into the slip. You know, a quality folding prop is a thing of beauty. John Cairns "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:00:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: That's stupid. Other boats monitor 16, which gives them a heads up about what is going to happen. It's a good idea to have a cell phone, but not for stuff like this. As usual, you demonstrate no understanding about sailing, boat handling, or common sense. No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else would find out, dumbass. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:07:42 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap: I doubt that seeing you being towed into the marina yet again would come as a surprise for anyone in your club. Once again, you show yourself to be a dumbass. I'd have him bring a spare battery. CM "Horvath" wrote in message | No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the | yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell | phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else | would find out, dumbass. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 07:53:58 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Yeah, I can see how the embarrassment of being towed in is less than the embarrassment of telling the harbor master that he's sailing in and then actually trying to do it. That's the way a dumbass, like you, would do it. I'd have my friend bring a spare battery. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I doubt that seeing you being towed into the marina yet again would come as a surprise for anyone in your club. CM "Horvath" wrote in message | No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the | yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell | phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else | would find out, dumbass. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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"Horvath" wrote ... . I'd rather use my cell phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else would find out I'm a dumbass. There's still some that don't know? |
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John, I have 2 small solar chargers ( maintainers, they call them) I leave
hooked up while I'm off the boat. Think they charge at 1/2 or 1 amp. Scotty "John Cairns" wrote in message ... The neighbor was a woman, a member of our local sailing club, she probably was right about the no sailing rule, the marina is somewhat crowded. The batteries were dead due to lack of charging, I haven't been out a lot recently, we don't motor that much when we're just going out for a sail. We couldn't get the diesel started when we were leaving, I connected the batteries up to the charger long enough to allow us to start the diesel, not long enough for them to be properly charged. Before we left for home last night I connected one of the batteries up, am going back today to properly charge the other one. One of my off-season projects will be the installation of a proper on-board charging system. As long as I sail out of this marina, keeping the batteries charged with the diesel will be a problem. John Cairns |
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Yeah, you could signal him with one of your many flags.
;) "Horvath" wrote That's the way a dumbass, like you, would do it. I'd have my friend bring a spare battery. |
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Right. Because you're too timid to actually use the VHF
and your sailboat. Why not inconvenience everyone. Oh, I forgot, you get a flag. "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 07:53:58 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: Yeah, I can see how the embarrassment of being towed in is less than the embarrassment of telling the harbor master that he's sailing in and then actually trying to do it. That's the way a dumbass, like you, would do it. I'd have my friend bring a spare battery. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I doubt that seeing you being towed into the marina yet again would come as a surprise for anyone in your club. CM "Horvath" wrote in message | No. I'm just smarter than you. I could use my radio to call the | yacht club, but then everyone would hear me. I'd rather use my cell | phone to call one of my buddies sitting at the bar, then nobody else | would find out, dumbass. Ave Imperator Bush! Bush Was Right! Four More Years! |
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Horvath wrote:
... I'd have my friend bring a spare battery. But if you have no friends .... (c: |
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